Link lists not listing freesites

[Useless]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

you should see what that has done to useless warrior and his suspenders!

Hey now! I heard that.

[Ramster]

Pendo
You are on free hosting right? That is why I didn't list you.

[Bill]

His choice of words was ill-advised, but who among us hasn't made that mistake?

It's hard, intimidating work figuring out the whole freesite submission thing, when you are just starting out.

And I've been doing it for many years, but I can still get exasperated by changes in ownerships, rules, and standards. I don't enjoy the process of studying and testing new linklists, either.

And I'll bet money none of the linklist owners here enjoy that process either, those that submit freesites.

So, Pendo uses poor judgement by expressing his feelings with the word "useless", when he should have thought about it for a minute and spoken more objectively. But, he's trying to share his experience and measurements with other freesite submitters, which is a legitimate topic.

And, bottom line, he is right, there are linklists where, for whatever reasons, it's best not to submit.

Figuring out the list of the best linklists is just basic freesite business.

[binxgook]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't think anyone would be very receptive if I created and posted a list of people here that I consider to be shitty submitters, and informed other people that, based on my own limited experience, they shouldn't list these bastards either.

And I surelly do appreciate that UW

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by Bill

I think it's a reasonable topic.

I don't think you linklist guys have to jump all over his head, like he is personally insulting you or something.

Some linklists do have a hell of a backlog. Some linklists are a pain in the ass to submit to. Some linklists are, as far as can be told, defunct. Some don't send a surfer a week.

It's perfectly legitimate to say, "I'm not so happy with these linklists, does anybody else have an opinion?".

You linklist guys can be awfully damned touchy.

Thanks Bill, finally someone's understands me.That's exactly what I wanted to ask.

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by Trev

If you're not even getting reviewed you could be blacklisted. If you feel it's unwarrented you should try ASKING why and finding out if there is anything you can do it get off the bl.

Looks like you don't understand...Let's say I open up a link list...I get a lot of submiters including you...And than I get tired of that review stuff, and just forget about it.But you don't know that I forgot about it and you still submit there.You submit but it's not gonna work.You won't get any traffic from me because I don't review those freesites.Now wouldn't it be better for you to change my link list with someone's else that's actually working? Get the point?
I didn't wanted to said anything bad about these link lists.If I did, I didn't wanted.I was just asking do these link lists list you, have a backlog or is it just me?

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by Ramster

Pendo
You are on free hosting right? That is why I didn't list you.

no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Pendo

no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?

Why do you have a Netpond whois? I see that a lot. What's the deal with that?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Bill

Figuring out the list of the best linklists is just basic freesite business.

Bill, I agree with what you are saying, but completely disagree with the way Pendo set out to establish his list.

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Bill

His choice of words was ill-advised, but who among us hasn't made that mistake?

That's why I misunderstood the first post I guess, didn't know Pendo wanted to compare and not start a list with useless sites

[Greenguy]

I'd just like to chime in & say that the suspenders joke made me spit coffee

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Pendo

no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?

Netpond info in your whois. Who owns your domain? You or Netpond?

Your name server is: NS1.OXCART.HOSTHEAD.COM and that looks like a free host with the subdomain.

[pornrex]

This is almost as good as wishing Rocco a happy 156th birthday.

[Useless]

Let's discuss this Netpond whois thing, not as an attack on Pendo, but as an issue within itself. I have in excess of a 100 gallery submitters banned at WW due to Netpond whois because I've always assumed that those must be sponsor hosted domains. When you see Netpond whois on a site thats using Netpond content, what else would you think?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I'd just like to chime in & say that the suspenders joke made me spit coffee

I LIKE MY DAMNED SUSPENDERS...and nothing you say can make me feel less sexy when I wear them.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If the topic was proposed by someone who was somewhat aware of his environment, that would have been one thing. But to produce a list with very obvious flaws with the insuation that these sites aren't updating, don't list anyone's sites, well, I think there's reason to expose the topic as flawed from the outset.

I don't think anyone would be very receptive if I created and posted a list of people here that I consider to be shitty submitters, and informed other people that, based on my own limited experience, they shouldn't list these bastards either.

ah good one letts do that post a list with shitty submitters mmmm how many pages will that be about 100.000s Stu<---- choking from laughter and she is sucha bitch sometimes

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I LIKE MY DAMNED SUSPENDERS...and nothing you say can make me feel less sexy when I wear them.

Jim said that he wants you to wear them with one of those old-time pants with the flap on the ass...so he can un-flap them & use the suspenders to bounce you back & forth.

Feeling sexy now?

Oh - the Netpond thing - all Beta Brigade or Netpond Cash as far as I know & all are considered Free Hosts in my book & have been for years now.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Pendo

Looks like you don't understand...Let's say I open up a link list...I get a lot of submiters including you...And than I get tired of that review stuff, and just forget about it.But you don't know that I forgot about it and you still submit there.You submit but it's not gonna work.You won't get any traffic from me because I don't review those freesites.Now wouldn't it be better for you to change my link list with someone's else that's actually working? Get the point?
I didn't wanted to said anything bad about these link lists.If I did, I didn't wanted.I was just asking do these link lists list you, have a backlog or is it just me?

i cant believe an linksite owner will think: i am not in the mood to review so i just reject them, what can be possible is the fact : if they review an couple of sites from the same person and those sites have the same mistake all the time, that they will say.oh thats harry, the guy with the same mistake everytime i wont check i just delete him.... just an example

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by pornrex

This is almost as good as wishing Rocco a happy 156th birthday.

ha nice reminder i must not forget to congrat him again tomorrow

[SmithsMedia]

Originally Posted by Pendo

Ok, let's get this straight.
I was referring to sites not listing anyone's freesites...Not mine, not yours, anyone's..Maybe the owner of a link list don't want to run that link list.So he just leaves it there and people like me will give him free recips and not getting anything back.It would be better for me that I add some other link list that will send me traffic.I didn't wanted to be rude, just wanted to know are these LL's listing you, because I didn't get a single email or traffic from them.I didn't said anything bad about those LL's...If they are listing you, it means that problem is in me.And I wanna know that.

Pendo, I think I can see where you are coming from. Let me answer this from 2 points of view which are both based on my personal experince.

Submitor - I have sent free sites to LL and see no traffic is sent, my gut feeling is that 'ah these guys are just fleecing me for a link'

Webmaster - I have a LL which I had to stop taking new listings on so I could complete a project. HOWEVER people still keep sending me shit, cleary via their submit lists etc.

My Conclusion - Somes times people just bite off more then they can chew and don't see what they started through to the end & or just have a massive to do list.

Lets say we all found a LL that listed the same day without fail - they would get so many submits that delays / non listings would soon be happening.

Anyhow as I say thats how I look at it, I think this is what you were asking

[Surfn]

I list over 90% of my partners

[Halfdeck]

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.

[HarryM]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

oh thats harry, the guy with the same mistake everytime i wont check i just delete him.... just an example

lol damn that's my submit name

anyway i know these sites are worth submitting to but are just backloged

ioxxx.com
pinknpurple.com

i've had sites accepted at both fairly recently.

[2msacras]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.

Thats some good tips...thanks

[Pusher]

I run adult-sex-sites.net... and I review and list free sites daily... we have no backlog

If you have a question about why your site(s) don't get listed, just send me an email