If anyone needs me...

[Thomas]

Is anyone going to explain this?

I know for sure I miss UW and I dont think its a joke.

/Thomas

[Chop Smith]

Useless makes me smile, Lord, don't he make me smile
He's never far away or too tired to say something sarcastic
He's always a clown, just like a useless should be
But when they turn out the lights, he's still a cocksucker to me
And no one knows what goes on behind closed doors...

My apologies, Charlie.

[Bill]

Burnouts can happen to anybody in this business.

I think there's a good chance UW will be coming back, but he does have responsibilities, and this is a busy time for him.

I've been thru a few burned out periods myself, and I would guess that most of us have.

[Useless]

Please excuse my poor command of the English language. "Unwelcome" was a poor choice of words on my part. Pissed off would have been a better choice. I feel pissed off here.

What had happened was far from being a burn out. I'm not burned out. Someone fucked me because he/she felt that I had that I had let him/her down. Maybe I did. Too fucking bad. This person has also decided to relay his side of the story to many of the big players here in a way in which I cannot possible tell my side of the story. Why? Because he's fucking weak, that's why. So I end up defamed. Oh well - fuck anyone who sides with him/her. Fuck you and the bridges you claim I'm burning. You don't have any fucking bridges!

I could tell my side right here, right now - but I wouldn't do that because I have respect for GG and his board. I'm not going to go out of my way to drag him into my pathetic little battle. It really is a stupid little personal dispute that was made bigger, at least for me, but what this cocksucker did in response to me telling him/her what I felt about him/her. Weak, I tell ya, fucking weak.

The person in question has enough influence here to get me banned from the board, but has chosen not to...yet.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...I could tell my side right here, right now - but I wouldn't do that because I have respect for GG and his board....

Check your answering machine, as there's an olive branch waiting for you. Then pick up the phone & MAKE THE CALL.

Hugs

[KG Gary]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Check your answering machine, as there's an olive branch waiting for you. Then pick up the phone & MAKE THE CALL.

Hugs

[RawAlex]

Olive branches on answering machines? Can you press it and get extra virgin comments?

Just a thought....

Alex

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Check your answering machine, as there's an olive branch waiting for you. Then pick up the phone & MAKE THE CALL.

Hugs

Mark, I'm tired, very tired. I've been at work all day and I'm in no mood to have him express his disappointment in me ONCE AGAIN. I just can't take that.

I don't feel guilty. I don't feel apologetic. I feel tired. I feel alone.

This morning's post was not supposed to be that angry, but as time passes, I just get more pissed and some of it got out. I've been handed a good spanking and none of the people who I thought were my friends are willing to do a damned thing about it. I'm at a loss.

[Greenguy]

There's a basketball on your side of the court. You can do one of two things:
1 - You can pick it up & play ball (phone call or email)
2 - You can go home (and that's not a banning threat)

It's your choice.

|viking|

[cosmiccat]

Shit, I guess I'm kinda new around here but this board just wouldn't be the same without UW. Really hope things can be fixed. Just want everyone to be happy!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by cosmiccat

Just want everyone to be happy!

Me too.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

There's a basketball on your side of the court. You can do one of two things:
1 - You can pick it up & play ball (phone call or email)
2 - You can go home (and that's not a banning threat)

It's your choice.

|viking|

I want to add this:

This involves all of your friends around here. Whatever issue you may have with one person or another shouldn't lead to the use of a flame thrower on every bridge in every direction. Mark isn't just talking about deal with whatever issue brought this around, but also reminding you that there are any number of other people out here at a loss for finding the door slammed in our faces as well.

The rest of us deserve better.

Alex

[cherri]

This Sucks!!!!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I want to add this:

This involves all of your friends around here. Whatever issue you may have with one person or another shouldn't lead to the use of a flame thrower on every bridge in every direction. Mark isn't just talking about deal with whatever issue brought this around, but also reminding you that there are any number of other people out here at a loss for finding the door slammed in our faces as well.

The rest of us deserve better.

Alex

Thank you, Alex, you are right. And I really do appreciate those who have taken the time to contact me and ask my side of the story. There are very few people who know the full story and even fewer who have spoken to me since this all began. If I would have been allowed to argue my position in a more open manner, it never would have come this far.

Allow me to say my peace and I will go quietly away. Please know that the very minor incident that has spawned this fiasco is not where my anger and frustration lies. That was, in fact, a release of burden for me, nothing more. It's the events that followed which have created pain for me, as I'm sure they were intended to do.

Months ago, GG did me a great favor which gave me a knew hope for my future in this business, and the fact that someone else was permitted to take that away and embarass me in such a manner in front of some very important community members cuts me deeply. I sense that because of that individual's stature, and my lowly position, everyone would like me to just accept it and move on. I did nothing wrong, yet I am the one who must eat crow. I'm sorry, but that's just not how I work. I may be nothing more than a servant in this industry, but I bow before no one. I committed no other crime than stating my opinion in my now infamous way.

Greenguy, I thank you for your role in extending the olive branch, but I don't see the point in talking to this person anymore. Hell, if he would have called me a couple weeks ago to find out what was going on, both his and my lives would be happier right now. You've done a lot for me Gman, and again, I thank you. No one has treated me better or had more faith in me. I really wish I didn't have to fail you this way, but I'm just going to leave the ball sitting right where it is and go home. It's the politics of this game that have made me lose, nothing more. My honesty and loyalty are still very much in tact.

[Fonz]

I don't know what problem you had with who about what but don't let this one thing be a reason to leave us all. As said before a lot of people enjoy your presence on this board a lot. I can understand how you must feel after being "betrayed" by another member (or higher placed person) from this community.

Anyway if you really see this "going home" thing as the only solution to your problem I will respect that but I will be very sorry to see you go...

Whatever you decide, know we all love ya

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...Months ago, GG did me a great favor which gave me a knew hope for my future in this business, and the fact that someone else was permitted to take that away and embarass me in such a manner in front of some very important community members cuts me deeply....

You have to admit that, while I know it was done inadvertently, looking at it from his side of things, you cut 1st. Just to put it into perspective, if MML had done that to me, he'd have gotten an earful as well.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...Hell, if he would have called me a couple weeks ago to find out what was going on, both his and my lives would be happier right now...

He did. If you had Caller ID on the phone, you'd know this That's why there were emails & the snailmail letter.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

You have to admit that, while I know it was done inadvertently, looking at it from his side of things, you cut 1st. Just to put it into perspective, if MML had done that to me, he'd have gotten an earful as well.

Firstly, MML gets paid to work for you. Was I getting paid? No. Everyone (including yourself) laughed at the arrangement I had with him. I was foolish for accepting that offer and regretted it after I was told how naive I was for doing that, but I did not give up. I did NOT cut and run. I fell behind 6 days behind on reviewing. And yes, I can see how that would be a big whopping deal to him. On an established successful list, falling back one day would be unacceptable. But on a new list, it's really not a big deal. And, as I had posted, I would have gotten it all caught up that weekend. Who else was working that list? Anyone? Can I see a some hands? No one. I was nothing less than abandoned with an incomplete script. No blacklist. No way to delete 404s. Nothing. I had a very simply review interface, that was all. Any wonder why I don't feel guilty? Any wonder why I was pleased have my service there ended?

Originally Posted by Greenguy

He did. If you had Caller ID on the phone, you'd know this That's why there were emails & the snailmail letter.

I don't need caller ID. Caller ID is for people who avoid phone calls. I answer my phone when I'm home. But if people would take a step back, they'd realize that at the same time this dibacle was unfolding, I was just starting my new day job, which is painting, as you know. I'm not home during the day anymore. Infact, I'm late for work right now. (good thing my new bosses like me ) And, during the same week, my beatiful wife was in Vegas, having a great time by the way. So, I'm busy with a new job, that PAYS me, my wife is away, which leaves me with my kids and all of the household responsibilities. Gee - my priorities ARE fucked. What was I thinking? I should have done a better job and made that shittly little link list my number one concern. Quick, someone fuck me with a big stick. I deserve it. I'm a bad, bad boy.

I really need to go to work now. I'm all hopped-up on Dunkin Donuts Latte and still haven't changed into my work clothes.

[Greenguy]

See, I'm in a really shitty position on all this - and it's not just the friends aspect of things - I can completely see both sides of the problem and while calling or emailing him that you were behind would have been the better thing to do, I can also see why you posted because I know these things happen with Link Lists.

And MML is a PERFECT example when you take LOR out of the equation - his job is to maintain 20+ link & tgp admins each week that he does NOT get paid a salary for. He gets a cut of those sites just like you. If he posted that Chubby Links was 6 days behind & that we was gonna clean it up that weekend without telling me personally, I'd have been quite upset.

Yes, the admin didn't do what it was supposed to do.
Yes, I completely understand how you felt on that subject.
Yes, I would have also been throwing my hands up in the air as well.

Personally, I would have probably just quit in private & moved on (and that's not meant as me thinking that your post was you "quitting")

I understand that you took on the offline job & that's great, but you can't throw out the "if he would have called me a couple weeks ago" when he did call, he did email & he did snailmail.

He called again yesterday & left you a message (and not by my urging) and PM'd you. Apart from him driving to your house, I really have no other idea how he could've contacted you

If you want to leave it the way it is, that's fine with me - as long as your anger towards him does not come out on the board - I can't have that & I think you know this.

[RawAlex]

UW, you may appreciate those who have taken the time to contact you or to express dismay at the situation, but please DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON US. Your anger towards one person should remain focused on that person, and shouldn't come out all over the rest of us who have nothing to do with the situation.

You entered a business arrangement. The arrangement (for whatever reason, not important to your friends) didn't work out. You can call your boss names if you like on the side in private and curse under your breath, but as a friend, I don't want to get in the middle of it.

You have put many people "in the middle of it" even if they had nothing to do with the situation.

Yes, your situation in life changed. Yes, you were having a stressful week. Yes, things blew up when you least wanted them to.

..... and no, none of your friends had anything to do with it. Quit hitting us with a stick, it's not helping anyone out.

Make your peace, say your piece, smoke a piece, whatever it is you need to do. Your friends want to remain you friends, so you have to find some way to put the issues at hand in a box and deal with them in your own way, as two people should.

You also have a PM.

Alex

[MrYum]

Aw damn...was really hoping this was settled and we could get our UW back.

I don't know all the details, nor do I need to. Reading between the lines, it's pretty apparent things were said in haste...and feathers got ruffled.

Damn guys, we're all adults here. Try to put this stuff in perspective and get back to business. What's happening currently isn't doing anyone any good...and certainly isn't going to solve any behind the scenes issues.

Bottom line...no matter what happened behind the scenes. This shit ain't rocket science, nor are we dealing with world peace issues. We're fortunate enough to sell adult entertainment as a way to pay the bills...or try to

Come on guys...TALK to each other...shake hands and agree to disagree. Let's get back to having some fun...poking some fun (damn, I miss UW!)...and slingin some porn

[swedguy]

Peace, Porn and Cocksuckers!

We need all the pieces. Now lets move on!

[sue-fl]

What I can figure out is why this upsets me so much!! I mean I have never meant any of you in person but I feel for all of you when things are going bad. I feel like a lot of you on this board are my friends and this is a great place to come to every day. In fact this may sound crazy but I need this place...

It looks like two people who were good friends are hurting. I tell ya good true friends are really hard to come by now days. Sit down and work this out guys. Many things can't be forgotten but they can be forgiven.

I'm in no way trying to jump in this as it's none of my business. I'm doing it because I really like and enjoy you on here UW. And I'm sad your hurting.

Life is too short so:

[Smutferret]

Well, I know this is none of my business but sue-fl is right, life is too short and true friends are hard to come by. Friends some times hurt each other for whatever reason and what comes next is a test of how much that friendship means to each person. Bruised egos and hurt feelings aren't worth ending a good friendship, trust me, I know. Please, take a deep breathe and don't let anger rule the day.

I hope you guys can work things out and shake off the bad feeling, they only serve to weigh you down and suck the life out of you.

Regards,
SF

[spookyx]

enough now you two

and lets have

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

If you want to leave it the way it is, that's fine with me - as long as your anger towards him does not come out on the board - I can't have that & I think you know this.

You're completely right. I never meant for my hostility to show and it even amazes me how much of an asshole I can be when I don't keep myself in check. I am sorry for that. I'm in state now where I'm embarassing myself more than what he had done. And I do a fine job of it. I'm sorry for bringing this to the board, GG. Part of me really needed to sound my barbaric yawp from the rooftops (Dead Poets Society), to get it all out, which is pretty damned hard while trying to be discreet. I'm sorry for making such a mockery of all this on your board. Please accept my sincere apology.

Alex, thank you. Your PM has helped me pull this back into perspective. I keep inflating the issue out of anger and stress and it has become something much larger than what it was. I've been told more than a few times in my life that I can be somewhat irrational. I've had a few excellent advisors during the last week or so and they all told me to pull back, relax, and to think this all through. It seems that I've ignored them all, even while concisously admitting that they were right. I'm a little fucked up that way. OK, a lot fucked up.

So here I am, humbled. Someone did something to punish me, I guess, and it pissed me right off. Could you tell? And honestly, it angered the holy fuck out of me that GG didn't instantly reverse what that guy did to me. I understand why he didn't. Business is business and I'm just a new nut case on the block, getting nuttier by the day. Frankly, I wouldn't want it back now anyway. Still angry about it, but I don't want it back. Damn, I'm a misconfigured unit.

I'm calm now, but I still don't see the point in talking to him. I've nothing to say to him. I'd like to see him punished. That would be nice. Maybe he should have to do jumping-jacks naked in the snow or play Jenga after drinking 7 or 8 black coffees. I don't know. He wins. He warned me. I can't deny that. He told me he'd fuck me and he did. Oh well. At least people like me for who am. I still have that. Bet he can't say that. |clown|

Let me give a shout out to all you loving bastard that supported me and showered me with "cocksucker" along the way. I felt the love. I really did. I'll try to stick around and not let you filthy fucks down. Deal? Deal.