NSA says they are stopping this now

[Jim]

http://www.leadingthecharge.com/stor...-00117743.html

Isn't that nice of them to decide to stop doing it? I just saw it on the TV news so I don't think this article says they are stopping. I know I will never go to a government site again.

[Greenguy]

Weren't you one of the people that didn't have a problem with cookies way back when we discussed banning counters?

[MadMax]

More sneaky shit from the Government. I'd pretend to be surprised, but I probably couldn't pull it off

Who goes to the NSA website anyway? I don't even feel comfortable going to the IRS website, and there's no fucking way I would connect to a site run by the Spooks

[SirMoby]

What's the big deal really? Most surfers end up with 100s or even 1,000s of cookies installed.

[MeatPounder]

The big deal is it is against the law for a goverment agency web site to set cookies on your computer that are more then session cookies. These were set to expire in 20035.
And it's happened before several times and each time the goverment was called out for it...to me it just again shows this goverments total disregard for the LAW.

[SirMoby]

There's a big difference between total disregard and screw up by IS staff. The article makes it sound like IS just screwed up. it would be different if they were trying to hide how the fact that the cookies were being installed.

Besides, the NSA has far more sophisticated ways of tracking people on thier website then using cookies.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Besides, the NSA has far more sophisticated ways of tracking people on thier website then using cookies.

Such as microchips inserted into the rectum (with the peanut butter).

[MeatPounder]

And now it seems the White House's own web site is doing no no's...all accidental of course

By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer
11 minutes ago



NEW YORK - Unbeknown to the Bush administration, an outside contractor has been using Internet tracking technologies that may be prohibited to analyze usage and traffic patterns at the White House's Web site, an official said Thursday.

David Almacy, the White House's Internet director, promised an investigation into whether the practice is consistent with a 2003 policy from the White House's Office of Management and Budget banning the use of most such technologies at government sites.

"No one even knew it was happening," Almacy said. "We're going to work with the contractor to ensure that it's consistent with the OMB policy."

An official with the contractor, WebTrends Inc., said later Thursday, however, that although a cookie may be used, no data from it is actually sent back to the company.

The development came a day after the National Security Agency admitted it had erred in using banned "cookies" at its Web site. Cookies are small data files that can be used to track Internet users. The acknowledgments followed inquiries by The Associated Press.

The White House's Web site uses what's known as a Web bug to anonymously keep track of who's visiting and when. A Web bug is essentially a tiny graphic image — a dot, really — that's virtually invisible. In this case, the bug is pulled from a server maintained by WebTrends and lets the traffic analytic company know that another person has visited a specific page on the site.

Web bugs themselves are not prohibited.

But when these bugs are linked to a cookie — so that a site can tell if the same person has visited again — a federal agency using them must demonstrate a "compelling need," get a senior official's signoff and disclose such usage, said Peter Swire, a Clinton administration official who helped draft the original rules.

The White House's privacy policy does not specifically mention cookies or Web bugs, and Almacy said the signoff was never sought because one was not thought to be required. He said his team was first informed of the cookie use by the AP.

But Jason Palmer, vice president of product management for Portland, Ore.-based WebTrends, insisted the cookies are not used in such manner.

Cookies from the White House site are not generated simply by visiting it, according to analyses by the AP and by Richard M. Smith, a security consultant in Cambridge, Mass., who first noticed the Web bug this week.

Rather, WebTrends cookies are sometimes created when visiting other WebTrends clients. Smith said his analysis of network traffic shows such preexisting cookies have then been used when visiting the White House site.

But WebTrends officials say they do not aggregate information about visitors across multiple sites.

Palmer said the browsers are designed to pull preexisting cookies automatically, and that the company has no choice in the matter. But he insisted the company doesn't use the information.

In any case, Almacy said, no personal data are collected.

In a statement, WebTrends added that the analysis performed at the White House site is typical among organizations for improving user experience.

The Clinton administration first issued the strict rules on cookies in 2000 after its Office of National Drug Control Policy, through a contractor, had used the technology to track computer users viewing its online anti-drug advertising. The rules were updated in 2003 by the Bush administration.

Although no personal information was collected at the time, Swire said, concerns were raised that one site's data could be linked later with those from the contractor's other clients.

"It all could be linked up after the fact, and that was enough to lead to the federal policy," Swire said.

Nonetheless, agencies occasionally violate the rules inadvertently. The CIA did in 2002, and the NSA more recently. The NSA disabled the cookies this week and blamed a recent upgrade to software that shipped with cookie settings already on.