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Old 2004-04-23, 05:43 AM   #1
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PHP Freesites & Image Pages.

Hi this is my first post, but I'm not a newbie

I have a question about freesites and php pages.

I was thinking about saving space/time building and I thought about making the gallery picture pages of freesites a php page, so the content is dynamic.

So from gallery-01 - links to pictures 1 - 10, but instead of 10 pic pages named pic-page-01.html to 10.html for example have the thumbs link to one php page:

pic-page.php?pic=1 - to ?pic=10

No doubt I'm not the first person to think of this, but I thought I'd get clarification here before going ahead and building/submitting sites.

Is this an accepted technique by the link list owners here?

I did a search on the archive for 'php pages' and didn't come across any other similar posts, although I saw one relating to a question about galleries being in the same directory as the index and main pages.

Q2) What about if the whole site was 1 php page with dynamic content?

So you have:


domain.com/site_1/index.php?page=index
domain.com/site_1/index.php?page=main
domain.com/site_1/index.php?page=gallery1
domain.com/site_1/index.php?page=gallery2


And so forth.

Is this acceptable?

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Old 2004-04-23, 06:11 AM   #2
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Hi Ian-Michael welcome to the board

You will probably get different answers from different LL owners. I personally have no problem with that setup.
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Old 2004-04-23, 06:34 AM   #3
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Welcome to the board.

Which part of the UK are you from? I know a couple of webmasters called Ian.
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Old 2004-04-23, 06:35 AM   #4
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Hi Surfn, thanks for the quick reply and the warm welcome

I hope other LL owners share your opinion on php pages - I await any more replies from said LL owners with interest!

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Old 2004-04-23, 06:36 AM   #5
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Welcome to the board.

Which part of the UK are you from? I know a couple of webmasters called Ian.
Hi Urb. I'm up't North in sunny old Yorkshire.
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Old 2004-04-23, 09:22 AM   #6
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I'd have to see it in action, but I don;t think I'd have a problem with it.

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Old 2004-04-23, 11:12 PM   #7
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Welcome to the board

I may be the spoiler here for you, but then again, maybe not.
1.) The fact that you posted means to me that you're concerned up front.
2.) PHP can do a lot of Good things.
3.) PHP can do alot of Bad things

It would probably come down to 1 on 1 with each LL.
My concern is if you decide for some reason to completely change the site for whatever reason.
Then what I have descriptions, title, etc... for, is no longer valid.
And if you're very careful with your code, I wouldn't be able to detect it... though you'd have to be Very careful

However, I do have a few submitters I list that do use PHP quite extensively. But I have known them all for years, and I trust what they are doing.

So how about a Definate Maybe - just my thoughts.
And like GG - I would like to see a URL in action.
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Old 2004-04-26, 04:05 AM   #8
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Thanks for your input guys

I'm gonna get an example up and running - might take a few while as I have some projects to finish up first, but will come back to this thread and post example.

Well, back to work
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Old 2004-04-26, 05:18 PM   #9
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As dare said..

PHP is too suspect here... we wont list anything with ? and variables in the URLs.

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Old 2004-05-11, 09:07 PM   #10
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Just wondering if you submitted a free site to Jays today using this.
Let me know

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Old 2004-05-12, 03:50 AM   #11
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Hi Dare, no I didn't submit that site.

I've been working on templates and ad's and such, (I tend to do things in bulk), I will post an example here very soon though before I submit to any LL's
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Old 2004-05-12, 11:01 AM   #12
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Cool A clue.

Greetings.

Just a notation:
One can always hide real PHP template behind .html extention and can use it extensively.
Few more little tricks can make PHP virtually impossible to detect.
There is no need in ?'s in URLs because everyone can simply use :
domain.com/site-123/gal-1/page.html instead of ../page.php?site=123&gal=1
This can be easily done with apache's mod_rewite.
The real question is will you excessively abuse the dynamo?
This is absolutely depends on your honesty.

Thanks.
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Old 2004-05-12, 01:05 PM   #13
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That's interesting, I will have a look into how to do that.

What do you mean abusing it? If you just use it to cut down on the number of pages you make for a site, i.e. index,main,gal1,gal2 and pic page - instead of 20 pic pages, which is the purpose I intend to use it.
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Old 2004-05-12, 01:53 PM   #14
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What do you mean abusing it?
Without mentioning specifics, to give somebody ideas, php could possibly be used in a bad way to cheat the rules of a link list.

Therefore, because possible cheating opportunities exist, some link list owners treat php with suspicion.
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Old 2004-05-12, 02:11 PM   #15
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Basically if you have been a regular submitter and are known from the boards too then using php like this is no problem.

If all of a sudden I start getting sites with php coding all over them from someone new I'm going to look at this site and saw WTF, now what?

You can do bad things with php, ssi, htaccess, there are lots of ways.
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Old 2004-05-26, 01:03 PM   #16
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Question

Well, here I am, I finally finished up the work that was clogging up my time from putting up an example here for you to look at.

These are 3 separate sites with 20 individual pics each, but I used the same model (from the same photoshoot) for convenience.

In addition to my original question about the dynamic gallery pages, which are on each of these sites - If you could give them a once over, and give me your critique as to whether they would be listed if submitted, I would be very grateful. I've tried to give an example over the 3 sites of the type of ad's and stuff that I use....

http://www.gaytwinkportal.com/sites/000/brad/

http://www.gaytwinkportal.com/sites/000/brad_gay/

http://www.gaytwinkportal.com/sites/000/brad_twink/

Each of the image pages for each site is actually the same page (1 per site), but calls the corresponding pic, depending on the link from the thumbnail, which cuts down on the image pages per site from 20 to just the 1. Nothing else on the page changes, you could add an ad rotation thing so that each picture has a different ad/text link, but I kept it simple here.

If anyone wants the php code for this dynamic gallery page, I will gladly post it, it's quite simple really nothing intricate or detailed anyone could run up the same code in a couple of minutes, but just in case anyone does want it, I will post it

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Old 2004-05-28, 05:19 AM   #17
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*cough*

Could any kind LL owner take a look at my sites please when they have a spare moment?

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Old 2004-05-28, 11:18 AM   #18
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I am not really 100% comfortable with your content being shown like that, no way for me to know if you don't have a 1 in 10 or 1 in 100 redirect, or a country redirect or other invovled in showing your content. That would be a VERY effective and VERY hard thing for link site owners to track down.

You also use the word "BOY" on your sites, which may flag your site for closer examinations as well.

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Old 2004-05-28, 02:27 PM   #19
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Thanks for your reply Alex.

It's a sad state of affairs that this business is so untrusting, but I guess you only have to go clicking a few TGP links to get your homepage high-jacked, or dialer pop-ups or even a trojan (this happened to be recently whilst I was looking for places to submit) - So I can understand any weariness about php pages - I guess I'm just always looking for ways to save time etc.

BTW, I am very careful when using the word "boy" - I don't think there's any where on any of my sites (above included) that I don't prefix it with the word "college" - and even then I don't use it very often - but there's only so many times you can write twink before your eyes bleed.

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Yeah, boy is just one of those words that, while it won't get you stopped, it will get people to look twice. If your site is marginal before that, a term like that is enough to push it to "no".

I use php in many sites I make, but I have found ways to make it more invisible so that people don't even notice it.

You will probably get these sites listed in some places, not in others... all depending on individual reviewer's feelings on the subject.

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Old 2004-05-29, 12:29 AM   #21
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I'm suprised no one has brought up the SE factor. One of the greatest things about link lists is their ability to attract quality SE traffic due to the way free sites are built. By deleting the extra pages, dir names, meta tags etc, you are hurting your sites SE potential.
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