Stolen Site!

[Buck Angel]

I found this today my ripped site
I emailed them and the host but of course no response! What would you guys suggest ??
|pissed| Buck

[Bill]

Keep emailing the host. They respond best to multiple emails. (I'm not sure, but I have been told there is a multiple notice language in the current copyright laws...)

Don't email the guy, email the host, get him shut down. Then email the guy and tell him if you see it again, you'll do worse.

I havn't looked at the torrent, but it sure looks like your copyrighted stuff from the description.

[DangerDave]

Looks like those guys have "ripped" lots of sites...,...

Including large porions of NastyDollars sites, and PerfectGonzo sites

dikwads!

DD

[Pornstar Dames]

Its a torrent site a way of file sharing itll probably get shut down soon enough anyway due to the warez and other stuff on there. Wouldnt loose to much sleep over it its just like your stuff being on Kazzaa

Seeing as theres probably a microsoft operating system or 2 on there you will probably be at the back of the que.

[urb]

Looks to be hosted in Germany... |skull|

http://www.flathousing.net/

[physio]

I don't think that these sites are going to be down in the near future, there are torrent sites that are around like ages and no one seems to do something about it.

The tech-c of that site above points to http://www.giga-hosting.biz/ but as sad as it is, I don't think they are going to do shit about it.

[urb]

2 2 ms 5 ms 5 ms 216.26.129.83 core-rtr01.ge-1-3-0.sdf.xodiax.net. 251 UNITED STATES Unix: 8:52:48.432
3 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms 216.26.128.225 edge-rtr02.ge-0-2-0.sdf.xodiax.net. 251 UNITED STATES Unix: 8:52:48.451
4 219 ms 224 ms 224 ms 65.117.168.137 chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net. 250 UNITED STATES Unix: 8:52:48.816
5 140 ms 150 ms 159 ms 205.171.20.121 chi-core-01.inet.qwest.net. 249 UNITED STATES Unix: 8:52:48.962
6 39 ms 50 ms 59 ms 205.171.8.230 ewr-core-02.inet.qwest.net. 248 UNITED STATES Unix: 8:52:49. 45
7 28 ms 40 ms 39 ms 205.171.17.130 ewr-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net. 248 UNITED STATES
8 110 ms 119 ms 129 ms 134.222.254.1 ledn-rou-1001.NL.eurorings.net. 246 EU Unix: 8:52:49.274
9 110 ms 119 ms 129 ms 134.222.229.238 obl-rou-1003.NL.eurorings.net. 246 EU Unix: 8:52:49.415
10 119 ms 139 ms 128 ms 134.222.230.106 ffm-s1-rou-1002.DE.eurorings.net. 245 EU Unix: 8:52:49.568
11 132 ms 137 ms 139 ms 134.222.230.225 mchn-s1-rou-1002.DE.eurorings.net. 244 EU Unix: 8:52:49.733
12 139 ms 130 ms 149 ms 134.222.228.46 wien-s2-rou-1002.AT.eurorings.net. 243 EU Unix: 8:52:49.882
13 158 ms 137 ms 147 ms 134.222.123.10 eurorings-gw1.vienna.at.carrier66.net. 115 EU Unknown: 81e7d2fc
14 * * *
15 139 ms 149 ms 158 ms 213.158.119.25 ip25.flathousing.net.
[Reached Destination] 240 GERMANY Unix: 8:55:53.519


I don't think the whois is telling the truth.

Email support@flathousing.net
and if they don't respond talk to their backbone provider.

[GunnCat]

Buck, that sucks man.

It wouldn't surprise me if this trend grows. How do we deal with this?

[RawAlex]

torrentreactor.net is the one you should be after, by way of their host. They are providing a direct link to material they know is stolen. Without their actions, it is unlikely that anyone would find the torrent in question.

Torrent file sharing is complicated because it is 100% network, no server. There is no single place that it exists. The only think you can go after is the information sites such as this.

Good luck, this ain't easy.

Alex

[RawAlex]

one thing you can do is inside your members areas, seed all the pages with links to pages that return large amounts of useless information. Those should always be first on the page, so that the site sucking bots will find them first and suck them all down. You can have links to html, jpg, and other things. They will go nuts.

I had someone make a small script a couple of years back that sent endless amounts of garbage information (like the source files for unix, or whatever was handy) in reply to these requests. If they get enough garbage in the files, they won't bother to try to edit the things to share.

Put those links on every page, every piece of html inside your members areas, make the bots run in circles. That tends to keep everyone except the most serious people away.

Alex

[Buck Angel]

Thanks so much for all your great feedback! I am calling and emailing them..of course no response yet!..ugggggg!!

I have seen these torrent sites before but only for software stuff never site stuff. My galleriews are in java do you think that they were able to down load all of the site?

Rawalex thanks for the advice that sounds awesome I am going to look into doing that. Also was told Strongbox will prevent this as well.

Fuck like I don't have enough shit to do alraedy now I have to deal with all these assholes!

[chilihost]

RawAlex, that is a fantastic idea, does it affect loadtime on your pages at all? Do you have a sample page available that you don't mind being ripped?

cheers,
Luke

[Cleo]

Strongbox puts an end to site rippers.

This also works but not as well.
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Alexibot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^asterias [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BackDoorBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Black.Hole [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BlackWidow [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BlowFish [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BotALot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BuiltBotTough [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Bullseye [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BunnySlippers [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Cegbfeieh [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^CheeseBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^CherryPicker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ChinaClaw [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^CopyRightCheck [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^cosmos [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Crescent [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Custo [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^DISCo [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^DittoSpyder [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Download\ Demon [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^eCatch [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EirGrabber [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailCollector [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailSiphon [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailWolf [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EroCrawler [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Express\ WebPictures [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ExtractorPro [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EyeNetIE [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^FlashGet [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Foobot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^FrontPage [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^GetRight [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^GetWeb! [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Go-Ahead-Got-It [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Googlebot-Image [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Go!Zilla [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^GrabNet [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Grafula [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Harvest [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^hloader [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^HMView [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^httplib [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^HTTrack [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^humanlinks [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ia_archiver [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Image\ Stripper [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Image\ Sucker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Indy\ Library [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^InfoNaviRobot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^InterGET [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Internet\ Ninja [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^JennyBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^JetCar [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^JOC\ Web\ Spider [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Kenjin.Spider [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Keyword.Density [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^larbin [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^LeechFTP [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^LexiBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^libWeb/clsHTTP [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^LinkextractorPro [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^LinkScan/8.1a.Unix [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^LinkWalker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^lwp-trivial [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mass\ Downloader [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mata.Hari [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Microsoft.URL [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^MIDown\ tool [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^MIIxpc [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mister.PiX [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mister\ PiX [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^moget [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/2 [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/3.Mozilla/2.01 [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla.*NEWT [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Navroad [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NearSite [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NetAnts [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NetMechanic [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NetSpider [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Net\ Vampire [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NetZIP [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NICErsPRO [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NPBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Octopus [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Offline.Explorer [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Offline\ Explorer [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Offline\ Navigator [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Openfind [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^PageGrabber [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Papa\ Foto [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^pavuk [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^pcBrowser [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ProPowerBot/2.14 [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ProWebWalker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ProWebWalker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^QueryN.Metasearch [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ReGet [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^RepoMonkey [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^RMA [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SiteSnagger [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SlySearch [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SmartDownload [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SpankBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^spanner [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SuperBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^SuperHTTP [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Surfbot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^suzuran [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Szukacz/1.4 [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^tAkeOut [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Teleport [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Teleport\ Pro [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Telesoft [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^The.Intraformant [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^TheNomad [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^TightTwatBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Titan [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^toCrawl/UrlDispatcher [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^toCrawl/UrlDispatcher [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^True_Robot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^turingos [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^TurnitinBot/1.5 [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^URLy.Warning [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^VCI [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^VoidEYE [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebAuto [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebBandit [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebCopier [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebEMailExtrac.* [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebEnhancer [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebFetch [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebGo\ IS [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Web.Image.Collector [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Web\ Image\ Collector [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebLeacher [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebmasterWorldForumBot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebReaper [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebSauger [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Website\ eXtractor [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Website.Quester [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Website\ Quester [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Webster.Pro [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebStripper [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Web\ Sucker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebWhacker [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebZip [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Wget [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Widow [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^[Ww]eb[Bb]andit [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWW-Collector-E [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWWOFFLE [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xaldon\ WebSpider [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xenu's [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Zeus
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.a-not-very-nice-place.com/

[cd34]

ia_archiver is alexa
a9.com by amazon uses alexa to calculate relevency to supplement its google backend results.

[Cleo]

I didn't know that thanks for the info.

But I don't see why they would be in a member's area.

[RawAlex]

Luke, I don't have a live sample, but the load time increase is only the amount of time to load 20 more links onto your page. Not a big deal.

Better they are sucking throttled cgi bandwidth instead of wide open jpgs.

Alex

[MrHackula]

I used to have a link for a script that would allow you to put tiny links in your pages that, if followed, would automatically add that IP to a ban list in your htaccess file.

Does anyone here have a link/name for this? I can't seem to find it. That would do it for sure.

Thanks,

Mr. H.

[MrHackula]

Originally posted by cd34
ia_archiver is alexa
a9.com by amazon uses alexa to calculate relevency to supplement its google backend results.

ia_archiver is actually the archiving robot from www.archive.org. If you don't want your site archived there, leave this in or dissallow it in your robots.txt file.

Mr. H.

[Naughty]

Originally posted by Cleo
Strongbox puts an end to site rippers.

Cleo, what is Strongbox ?

[Useless]

Originally posted by Naughty
Cleo, what is Strongbox ?

http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/

[Cleo]

Strongbox

It is amazing how well it works.

[MrHackula]

Cleo:

Am I misreading this?

From the strongbox site:

...StrongBox is also designed to allow easy integration of a script to protect against "slurping", or bulk downloading of your whole site. ... (Be sure to ask about the anti-slurp scripts that interface with StrongBox when you order.) ...

Has this been changed, or do you still need to acquire an addition piece of software to make it do the job?

Thanks,

Mr. H.

P.S. Other than that, it looks good.

[Cleo]

I ICQed Ray so that he can come here an answer questions about it.

[DangerDave]

Mr H..

If you have a a site to protect... StrongBox is the best.... no questions asked IMO..

I am sure Ray will be by to answer any specific questions.

DD

[raymor]

Originally posted by MrHackula

Has this been changed, or do you still need to acquire an addition piece of software to make it do the job?
[/b]

That has been changed. I need to update the site.
A standard Strongbox install now fights rippers in
two simple but effective ways. It's also still easy
for your custom script to notfy Strongbox to kick
someone out if you wanted to use a more complex
script. Our top secret underground labs are working
on just such a more complex script that has it's basis
on how much a user is allowed to download within
a two hour period and within a two day period, but
takes that concept to the next level.

In regards to the long list of rewrite conditions that
some people use listing hundreds of different rippers:
One simple change in that approach will make it
work a lot better and be MUCH more efficient.
Keep in mind that if. for example, you have a page
with 30 thumbnails that requires 30 requests to
the server and the server has to process the .htaccess
30 times. If you have 200 rippers listed than loading
those 30 thumbs means that the server then has to
look at and compare the user_agent 30 X 200 times.
That's 6,000 comparisons to be done to load just one page.
This is the type of thing why we used to do just fine with
200 Mhz Pentium processors in our servers and now
2600 Mhz machines aren't fast enough at times -
that's an enormous waste of resources.
Waste? It's not a waste if it's doing something good, right?
That approach is a waste because of computer security rule #1:
Disallow everything, then allow that which is needed.

Take a look at your typical .htaccess for a paysite
and you'll see that rule in action:
deny from all
require valid-user
There's no need to try to list every possible user_agent
who shouldn't be allowed to access your members area.
That list could never possibly be kept current anyway.
Instead just list the four or five browsers that SHOULD
be allowed to access. MSIE, Mozilla (including
Firefox and Netscape versions), Opera and Safari.
If you hve videos you'll also allow WMP, RealPlayer,
Quicktime and maybe Xine and XMMS if you have Linux customers .
Without videos, that means that instead of 200 conditions
you only have 5-7 and instead of doing 6,000 comparisons
you're only doing 150.

Well, Ray, what if some day a new browser comes along that
a lot of people start using nd I don't want to have to go back
and update all of my .htaccess? Ok, fine. Still if the user_agent
is IE we don't have to check 200 times to see if it's also a ripper.
Once we know it's IE or Mozilla we can stop checking:
RewriteCond ^Mozilla/[0-9]\.[0-9].*Gecko [OR]
RewriteCond ^Mozilla/[0-9]\.[0-9] (compatible; MSIE [OR]
RewriteRule /* - [L]
Now put your 200 rules here, to be checked only if it's not IE or Mozilla.
BTW, the Mozilla Gecko condition picks up Mozilla,
Firefox, Netscape, and Safari because they all use
the Gecko rendering engine.