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Greenie - actually you hit the name of the company I was talking about in your post - and its a shame because although Im not a "whale" I do make some good consistent money with the program - although if they took the time to really get some good HFS's Im sure that amount I make would triple - as well as you and some others I know would be more likely to really push them - Deecash - are you listening??? Its just a shame those outsourcing companies are affecting their bottom line so much