ccbill scrub up?

[wicked1]

Originally Posted by Simon

Mornin' everyone,

I noticed this thread because I've seen scrubbing become a real problem at times too, although I'd say that in general we don't have as much trouble with CCBill scrubs compared to some others we've used.

But we do use CCBill in our webmaster program, and one thing I really want to comment on here is about the affiliate code not being carried all the way to the join page at times. This was a personal peeve of mine for a long time, and it was one thing we wanted to see if we could improve on a little with our own webmaster affiliate program and with our (soon to come) Hosted Free Sites.

We think we're doing it a good way now on our tours, where the initial link to us begins by setting a CCBill cookie before the surfer even sees the warn page (or whatever tour page the webmaster wishes to target). We do that in the background with php, and you often won't even see anything happen. But if you check that you don't have a cookie from CCBill named 925611 (our account) before you enter our tour, you'll definitely have one as soon as you do.

From that point on there's no need to carry the code forward to our join page since the cookie already exists long before that.

Yes, if a surfer has a 'no-cookie' browser, or surfs with cookies disabled, they're not going to get tagged, but surfers who disable cookies (and/or Javascript) in their browser aren't usually our best candidates for membership -- particularly since CCBill (and others) require those capabilities to even process a signup.*

In our HFS, we'll be using another method to "bury" the webmaster's affiliate code in the URL (a big thank you to swedguy for help with that one!), because we don't want to see the code easily snipped off the end like happens a lot. With this method we're really hoping to see lots of our HFS appear in search engine listings eventually with the webmaster's code right where it should be.

I didn't mean to help hijack this thread to talk about webmaster affiliate code tracking instead of shaving, but the mention of CCBill and hosted promotions not tracking just kind of pulled my trigger this morning. ::grin::

Simon


* Note: I wonder if it would be worth it to identify the no-cookie/no-javascript surfers, and send them someplace other than tours where the join pages require those functions?

Thanks for following up with your experience Simon.

I'd actually been waiting for a few Sponsors to to attack my findings on my previous post . I do have examples and evidence of there problems and have mentioned it to many sponsors too many times in the past. Most have either denied it happens or we have a disagreement and I no longer send traffic

We are all in the business to make $$$ so I'm tired of sitting on this and keeping it to myself. I personally have "Unknowingly Donated" quite a bit of quality traffic over the years to sponsors with faulty codes.

The problem needs to be brought to the attention of webmasters so they can make up thier own minds why thier traffic either is not converting or is erratic at best.

NOW THIS BEING SAID, The ratios you saw in my previous post are from highly targetted se traffic using lots of pre selling. No TGP or FREE SITE traffic there.

The reason I detected this is I know how much traffic goes to each page and then to each sponsor. I can see if the hosting stats are not registering when compared to my ccbill stats.

Regards,

Wicked1