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2005-04-18, 08:51 PM
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Jim, an ISP is offering "unfiltered" access - raw feed, do what you want. ISPs are safe from prosecution - they are the same as phone companies, message carriers. As long as they don't filter the message, they are not responsible for it. They offer pipe not content.
What this company is doing is collecting ONLY images off usenet, filtering, organizing them, etc and then reselling access to ONLY those images. At that point, they are no different from a site you or I run offering access to images for a price. The difference is they have sourced their material not from content producers but by scooping usenet. They pay no fee, have no license, and have no access to 2257 info. ISP offers access to the internet as a whole. newsgroup suppliers offer access to newsgroups as a whole. Once you start to filter and edit, you accept responsiblity for it. Alex |
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2005-04-18, 10:43 PM
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Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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As an example, the following statement is a complete misrepresentation of the services that we provide... "...collecting ONLY images off usenet, filtering, organizing them, etc and then reselling access to ONLY those images." We are a Usenet service provider, and have been for the past 12 years. It is the same service that is offered through telcos, ISPs, universities, corporations and competing commercial Usenet providers. We are not "collecting", "filtering", "organizing" or "scooping" anything. Those are your descriptions of our service, and as noted, they are incorrect. In the end, our clients... both adult and non-adult... have benefited tremendously from the Usenet services that we provide to them... and as business people, it would have been nice to have a candid, responsible dialog about the topics appearing in this thread. Quite frankly, we thought that if anyone could understand the importance of free speech... the importance of not being characterized or labeled unfairly... it would be participants in the adult entertainment industry. Obviously we were wrong, and that's unfortunate. |
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2005-04-18, 11:10 PM
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2005-04-19, 01:47 AM
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Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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We've had a couple of people maliciously post libelous comments about our service on a public message board, in an effort to scare away potential customers and damage our business. This is the equivalent of someone walking into a crowded theater and yelling "Fire!" when there isn't one. If the harm still seems "mysterious" to you, it may help to step into our shoes for a moment.... You've operated a quality adult website for over a decade, which has been in complete compliance with federal and state laws. In an effort to raise awareness for your site, and to expand upon your business, you run some advertising. A few folks... competitors, anti-porn fanatics, whatever... go to a public discussion board, and in front of an audience of potential customers proclaim that you promote and provide child pornography. The statements are malicious, untrue, and scare the crap out of folks who may have otherwise purchased a membership with your site. If this doesn't help to clarify, and personalize some of our concerns, there's really not much more I can offer at this point. |
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