My personal thoughts on 2257

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Cleo

A pic is worth a thousand words…

mmmmm Enchilada!

[spookyx]

Originally Posted by Cleo

So you are worried that the US is going to invade the Netherlands and arrest Stu I guess.

CLEO HUSH!! don't give g.w. any ideas

[booboo]

hello all this is my first post - been doing some reading on your board and i like the way you folks think
a thing that interests me is this = nobody on any board i have read has mentioned 1 small fact = the bill of rights clearly states that all usa citizens has the right to privacy yet it seems to me this 2257 law clearly violates that right - i hope every model sues the government big time for this violation
thanks for listening

[Dagwolf]

Yep, you're in a mood allright.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

[docholly]

Originally Posted by booboo

hello all this is my first post - been doing some reading on your board and i like the way you folks think
a thing that interests me is this = nobody on any board i have read has mentioned 1 small fact = the bill of rights clearly states that all usa citizens has the right to privacy yet it seems to me this 2257 law clearly violates that right - i hope every model sues the government big time for this violation
thanks for listening

unfortunately the current administration doesn't feel the constitution applies to them or they only use the parts they like..
kind of like christians and the bible. selective passages, misapplied to fit their current situation.

Commissary comes by 2 a week. |cool|

[Urban Legends]

I don't know how serious Jim is about this, but i do know that this industry has always needed guys to stand up and take the heat and be willing to do what it takes for the good of the community. And whether you like these guys or not, from their personalities to what they produce, we all owe them for what they went thru so we could enjoy the benfits (from Larry Flint to Rob Black).

[Jim]

Originally Posted by docholly

unfortunately the current administration doesn't feel the constitution applies to them or they only use the parts they like..
kind of like christians and the bible. selective passages, misapplied to fit their current situation.

Commissary comes by 2 a week. |cool|

It was in 96 I believe when a different, much worse law was passed that would put us all out of business. It went to the Supreme Court twice (the same guys there now) and was struck down twice.

The jist of the Supreme Court decision was "The internet is the last place of true free speach. We will not harm it".

[Jim]

And I will keep saying this...If a law is unjust, it is our duty to break it.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Urban Legends

I don't know how serious Jim is about this, but i do know that this industry has always needed guys to stand up and take the heat and be willing to do what it takes for the good of the community. And whether you like these guys or not, from their personalities to what they produce, we all owe them for what they went thru so we could enjoy the benfits (from Larry Flint to Rob Black).

If I was not serious, I would not have not only posted but also emailed my home address. By the way, you guys might want to remember that address for August 1st...my birthday

[Jim]

I would have given out my phone number too but...I really don't need everybody calling me all day

[Jim]

Oh yeah
Fuck these fear mongers...Get a fucking life and figure out a different way to make money. You remind me of a holy man asking for donations to go to heaven.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Jim

...you guys might want to remember that address for August 1st...my birthday

adding note to calendar for Aug.1: Have Jim's front yard "Flamingoed".

Oops, did I say that out loud?

[Jim]

Harley Davidson memorabilia if you are interested in a gift

[Cleo]

Pink Flamingos and spinning sunflowers it is.

[Special "Ed"]

I agree Jim...its nice to see someone bringing some relief to all this bullshit.

[mrMagoo]

Well said Jim and thanks for saying what needs to be said

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Jim

And I will keep saying this...If a law is unjust, it is our duty to break it.

So when will you be breaking this law your so vocal about?

It's really fucking easy to scream "Come Arrest Me" when you're not breaking the law.

If you had 170 domains & countless free sites & galleries & paysites & 225k pics floating around with your name on them, you would not be singing this song.

Call me an ass - call me "Pete Panic" - I don't care - but don't encourage everyone to follow you when your the last person that the DOJ would look at if & when this goes thru.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

So when will you be breaking this law your so vocal about?

It's really fucking easy to scream "Come Arrest Me" when you're not breaking the law.

If you had 170 domains & countless free sites & galleries & paysites & 225k pics floating around with your name on them, you would not be singing this song.

Call me an ass - call me "Pete Panic" - I don't care - but don't encourage everyone to follow you when your the last person that the DOJ would look at if & when this goes thru.

dont even mention it all..i have about 200+ domains with bought content, free sponsor content, all kind of stuff, fpa, fake tgp, hubs, avs ,free sites, and yes i am that sloppy person who dont have all on file with what i have where and who.......do i care about the 2257....on a certain point i do, i do care at that point if an sponsor email me with " hey dont use this or that" then i am panicking and getting angry because if i want to keep my sponsor accounds i have to play by their rules....even if i am an foreign person, so even i dont think the us law will knock at my door, i am still afraid sponsors will close my accounds if i not follow their rules on the 2257.....on this moment bizz sucks huge, i think i had to change to many shit the last year with sponsors changing stuff and getting broke and now the 2257, i spoke to more dutch webmasters all say, hey i am not an US person, yep i agree so what the fuck with the 2257, but ever think of the fact an sponsor will tell you they dont allow you to use their hardcore free content anymore per 23 jun or banners or dropping paysites, well say again ducthies.... still wont follow that request, well then dont nag when an sponsor close your accound, so even we are not by the US law, it will involved us too...and that makes me work for 24 hours now the next freaken fucking days to fix my shit

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

So when will you be breaking this law your so vocal about?

It's really fucking easy to scream "Come Arrest Me" when you're not breaking the law.

If you had 170 domains & countless free sites & galleries & paysites & 225k pics floating around with your name on them, you would not be singing this song.

Call me an ass - call me "Pete Panic" - I don't care - but don't encourage everyone to follow you when your the last person that the DOJ would look at if & when this goes thru.

What the fuck is wrong with you? There were plenty of galleries of mine until you redirected them. Once moved, they will all be up there and I will post links to everything.

I called you nothing. But I do say that it is our duty to break an unjust law.

[Jim]

And as I said a million times...Some of us have been through much worse than this. Maybe when everyone sees this is just bullshit, people I thought would never get paranoid will stop being paranoid.

I hope so at least.

[Pusher]

C'Mon Jim...tell us how you REALLY feel

[Pipboy]

haha - you're awesome Jim.

[pornofreekman]

Originally Posted by Cleo

A pic is worth a thousand words…

Cleo...You have 2257 info on that pic ?????????

[Jim]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

dont even mention it all..i have about 200+ domains with bought content, free sponsor content, all kind of stuff, fpa, fake tgp, hubs, avs ,free sites, and yes i am that sloppy person who dont have all on file with what i have where and who.......do i care about the 2257....on a certain point i do, i do care at that point if an sponsor email me with " hey dont use this or that" then i am panicking and getting angry because if i want to keep my sponsor accounds i have to play by their rules....even if i am an foreign person, so even i dont think the us law will knock at my door, i am still afraid sponsors will close my accounds if i not follow their rules on the 2257.....on this moment bizz sucks huge, i think i had to change to many shit the last year with sponsors changing stuff and getting broke and now the 2257, i spoke to more dutch webmasters all say, hey i am not an US person, yep i agree so what the fuck with the 2257, but ever think of the fact an sponsor will tell you they dont allow you to use their hardcore free content anymore per 23 jun or banners or dropping paysites, well say again ducthies.... still wont follow that request, well then dont nag when an sponsor close your accound, so even we are not by the US law, it will involved us too...and that makes me work for 24 hours now the next freaken fucking days to fix my shit

And where do you live Stu? Do you obey the US speed limit laws as well?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Jim

What the fuck is wrong with you? There were plenty of galleries of mine until you redirected them. Once moved, they will all be up there and I will post links to everything.

I called you nothing. But I do say that it is our duty to break an unjust law.

You've got 14 free sites that all have a date on them of Feb 2004 - which means they were all moved there on that date, so they are all at least 15 months old & have little or no traffic (plus, lets remember that you didn't even know they were there until I told you I redirected them)

Do you really think that the DOJ will come after you & your 300 pics? And I know you're gonna say "I wish they would" or something like that, but the odds on them actually looking at you is about the same as winning the lottery.

And no, you didn't call me anything, but you know that this thread started after you & I talked on the phone yesterday about what was going on with the content on the servers.

I fear that you stating this opinion might push someone that was on the fence to the (potential) law breaking side & forbid they get fucked because you've got such big balls.

I redirected everything - fuck it - I don't care anymore - I make most of my money off LOR & other link lists & TGP's & that's what I do best.

Love ya