SE Spammer Revealed

Rorschach · 2005-07-01, 06:40 PM

No offence but IMHO you will struggle to make a dent...

All SE spammers work on the assumption that their shit's going to get banned sooner rather than later, and if you're smart then you'll build everything different so it's difficult to catch algorithmically... all those combined man hours of trying to report spam are nullified by running the script a few more times. It's a simple equation of money in vs. money out... time is not a factor for the spammer except for the development time of the scripts themselves, and the established spammer can afford to throw as many servers as is required at the problem. All you will do is turn a proportion of the small LL owners to the dark side by revealing black hat tricks of which they would otherwise be ignorant. Small LL owners and free site builders just cannot compete with the sheer volume of stuff, the tools, the high level of optimization or the volume of linking power that either spammers or more accomplished white hat SEOs can bring to the table. I should add that I have heaps of respect for the Penisbot/ Dangerdave style white hats with real volume, and I think that is an awesome business model, just not one that interests me... but there is no room in the world of SEs for the miniroller if you want to make real money... IMHO. The advantage of the group reporting system is that the big dog white hats get the little yappers to do their shit work for them.

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2005-07-01, 06:40 PM	#14
Rorschach Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 115	No offence but IMHO you will struggle to make a dent... All SE spammers work on the assumption that their shit's going to get banned sooner rather than later, and if you're smart then you'll build everything different so it's difficult to catch algorithmically... all those combined man hours of trying to report spam are nullified by running the script a few more times. It's a simple equation of money in vs. money out... time is not a factor for the spammer except for the development time of the scripts themselves, and the established spammer can afford to throw as many servers as is required at the problem. All you will do is turn a proportion of the small LL owners to the dark side by revealing black hat tricks of which they would otherwise be ignorant. Small LL owners and free site builders just cannot compete with the sheer volume of stuff, the tools, the high level of optimization or the volume of linking power that either spammers or more accomplished white hat SEOs can bring to the table. I should add that I have heaps of respect for the Penisbot/ Dangerdave style white hats with real volume, and I think that is an awesome business model, just not one that interests me... but there is no room in the world of SEs for the miniroller if you want to make real money... IMHO. The advantage of the group reporting system is that the big dog white hats get the little yappers to do their shit work for them.