Link lists not listing freesites

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

So, if a link list blacklisted you, it isn't worth it for anyone else to submit to them? And you want to know the lists that won't list other submitters? The whole premise of this thread is shit. First take a look at WHY you aren't getting listed before you denounce the link lists. There are names on that list that will make people laugh at you when they read them.

Ok, let's get this straight.
I was referring to sites not listing anyone's freesites...Not mine, not yours, anyone's..Maybe the owner of a link list don't want to run that link list.So he just leaves it there and people like me will give him free recips and not getting anything back.It would be better for me that I add some other link list that will send me traffic.I didn't wanted to be rude, just wanted to know are these LL's listing you, because I didn't get a single email or traffic from them.I didn't said anything bad about those LL's...If they are listing you, it means that problem is in me.And I wanna know that.

[Surfn]

If Linkster could get home and if he had power I am sure he would explain why he doesn't list you sites.

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by Surfn

If Linkster could get home and if he had power I am sure he would explain why he doesn't list you sites.

Ok, so he lists other's freesites..That's all I wanted to know.That's why I started this thread, to see if anyone has same problem as me.Looks not

[SmithsMedia]

Originally Posted by Pendo

Ok, let's get this straight.
I was referring to sites not listing anyone's freesites...Not mine, not yours, anyone's..Maybe the owner of a link list don't want to run that link list.So he just leaves it there and people like me will give him free recips and not getting anything back.It would be better for me that I add some other link list that will send me traffic.I didn't wanted to be rude, just wanted to know are these LL's listing you, because I didn't get a single email or traffic from them.I didn't said anything bad about those LL's...If they are listing you, it means that problem is in me.And I wanna know that.

Pendo, I think I can see where you are coming from. Let me answer this from 2 points of view which are both based on my personal experince.

Submitor - I have sent free sites to LL and see no traffic is sent, my gut feeling is that 'ah these guys are just fleecing me for a link'

Webmaster - I have a LL which I had to stop taking new listings on so I could complete a project. HOWEVER people still keep sending me shit, cleary via their submit lists etc.

My Conclusion - Somes times people just bite off more then they can chew and don't see what they started through to the end & or just have a massive to do list.

Lets say we all found a LL that listed the same day without fail - they would get so many submits that delays / non listings would soon be happening.

Anyhow as I say thats how I look at it, I think this is what you were asking

[Surfn]

I list over 90% of my partners

[Halfdeck]

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.

[2msacras]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.

Thats some good tips...thanks