How many link lists do you submit to?

[ladydesigner]

Originally Posted by ponygirl

oh, and I don't think that the small LL is dead, not by a long shot

Ponygirl

Lord, I hope not!

[jerkit]

Ponygirl,

You were talking about hubs.. I've seen other people mention it, but I have to admit I still don't quite get the concept. I started out with just my LL (last may-june) and then building a few free sites and galleries along the way, but if someone could help me understand hubs a bit better it would be helpful.

From what I've read, they're basically a site which hosts all your freesites and sponsor content? How does one get traffic to this? Hardlink trades?

Any help for a still relative newbie would be great.

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by jerkit

Ponygirl,

You were talking about hubs.. I've seen other people mention it, but I have to admit I still don't quite get the concept. I started out with just my LL (last may-june) and then building a few free sites and galleries along the way, but if someone could help me understand hubs a bit better it would be helpful.

From what I've read, they're basically a site which hosts all your freesites and sponsor content? How does one get traffic to this? Hardlink trades?

Any help for a still relative newbie would be great.

well, I don't know how anyone else does it, but I've been buying niche related domain names, then throwing up a page or 2 for it. I'll list all my sponsor hosted galleries, freesites, whatever they have, plus any of my freesites in that niche. To get traffic to it, do freesites off that domain & submit them, put links to them on other freesites (that will count as one of your links out, tho). One I have is getting pretty decent msn traffic too, so build for the SEs as much as you can - I'm still learning that

traffic takes a bit to build up, but hubs (I call mine 'one page wonders' ) are easy to build & can be quite addictive

hope that helps! you can have a look at a couple of mine here

Ponygirl

[sue-fl]

Good points ponygirl! I'm still debating as far as my LL goes, as my hub seems to do much better. May sound crazy but I like building free sites But with the LL and the hub I don't build as many as I'd like to. I also submit to LL's as you stated for support and because I like the people. Also those LL's have to start somewhere, and could be big at some point. By then they would know me, and know I do my best to submit clean sites that follow their rules which is a plus. I'm trying to narrow mine to 36 that I submit to at this time.

I like your hubs ponygirl, you've done a great job on them Hope you continue to make lot's of money

[Mr. Blue]

I'm not a regular freesite submitter, but when I do I only do it to around 12-16 places.

I don't think small link lists are doomed, but they need to start acting less like a big linklist and more like a small link list I'm not sure why any small linklist would use category recips when a general recip would endear them to submitters. I'm not sure why they need a page long list of rules when a rules page like Tommy's or RR would suffice.

If a small link list had a general recip, easy to submit rules that follow Tommy's or RR, updated their site regularly, and tried to foster a good relationship with their submitters, they would have a loyal following of submitters.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

If a small link list had a general recip, easy to submit rules that follow Tommy's or RR, updated their site regularly, and tried to foster a good relationship with their submitters, they would have a loyal following of submitters.

So why am I not seeing your submissions then?

Originally Posted by plateman

what did MML tell me awhile back, oh he said "you cant cash stats just checks.. hehe

Awesome quote! One I need to remember being a stat junkie myself.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Preacher

So why am I not seeing your submissions then?

I actually added you to my submit list 3 weeks ago lol...but been busy building up my tgps and blogs, so no time for freesites...but I added you when I read in one thread you went to a single recip