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Old 2006-03-16, 02:30 PM   #1
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I would add this as well: Any single spammer, provided they are not the type that cluster spams, isn't what I would consider as a huge problem individually.

I think of them as the punk on the corner downtown with a squeege trying to guilt people into giving them money. A single one is an amusing annoyance.

Now, picture that there is 100 squeege people on each corner. Every time you stop your car for 1 second,20 of them jump on the hood all trying to clean your windshield and steal your cash.

Finally, you stop driving because your car is now useless.

Spam is like that to me: So many spammers send out so much spam over and over again, repeating the same few subjects, watches, software to stop spam, pills, penis patches, and pump and dump stock scams seem pretty much to be it. Thousands of pieces per day of total, overwhelming shit.

It is enough to make me want to turn off email and not use it again.

I won't let these fuckers ruin the internet for everyone. JenC can go to jail and learn something from it.

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...It is enough to make me want to turn off email and not use it again....
I dare ya

Am I the only one that thinks she was told that the lists she was sending to were double opt in & legal & all that crap?
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Am I the only one that thinks she was told that the lists she was sending to were double opt in & legal & all that crap?
If so, she obviously didn't make a very good legal case for herself.

I am willing to say the punishment they hand down for these cases is pretty fucked up, but that's no surprise. Sexual predators wander the streets on probation while spamtards sit in federal fuck-me-in-the-ass prisons for 10-15 years. The leveed jail terms appear to have been designed for the monster spammers running 10 email servers out their basements. She was working cahoots with two other spammers though, so who even knows what kind of operation they were running?
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Old 2006-03-17, 01:52 AM   #4
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I would add this as well: Any single spammer, provided they are not the type that cluster spams, isn't what I would consider as a huge problem individually.
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I really dislike spam, but I too have a beef with the punishment. It's far more severe than necessary. If they really want to dissuade a financial venture like spamming, then punish them financially. And it comes right down to what you said about the government having a hard-on for the internet. They don't know how to control it, so they go insanely overboard.
There are many excellent posts in this thread. We, as internet marketers, walk a very fine line when discussing marketing tactics.

Can anyone really define spam? So you receive unrequested email, big deal, so what? If you don't like it just stop using web based email. The internet is public realm.

Maybe we should jail ad execs at Budweiser, Proctor & Gamble, General Motors, etc, etc. I don't request TV commercials either, but hey, they shove them in my face anyway. They are spamming the public airwaves. En masse! But that's my problem, I'm using public facilities by choice.

As soon as 'they' (our collective government bodies) figure out how to tax spam it will be as legal as can be. Spammers don't go to the expense, time or trouble just to personaly piss you off. Out of so many emails sent some moron will buy a "genuine Rollecks watch".

For the record, I detest spammers. But I detest censorship and "big brother" control even more. I'd rather tolerate spam than risk being the next do-gooder target. The next time you jump on the anti-spam bandwagon you may be cutting your own throat.

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