WTF?

[Greenguy]

Ok - let's try something.

http://www.getporn24.com/?cat=Unifor...ge=0&type=both

On the uniform page, there's a link to an Extreme Paycheck gallery:
http://galleries.filthynurses.com/hg...ree=milfseeker

I'll hit up Extreme John & then he can post if he's ok with this company charging surfers to view his hosted galleries.

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Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Ok - let's try something.

http://www.getporn24.com/?cat=Unifor...ge=0&type=both

On the uniform page, there's a link to an Extreme Paycheck gallery:
http://galleries.filthynurses.com/hg...ree=milfseeker

I'll hit up Extreme John & then he can post if he's ok with this company charging surfers to view his hosted galleries.

Yes, please do that, i would like to get some more opinions
Im legally backed up, but still i dont want to step on anyones toes.
But please dont forget to mention to him, that he is getting targeted traffic to his galleries for free

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Originally Posted by Greenie

Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

Well actually it is, it really searches through the database, since the index is updated constantly

It's realised like a dropdown search because thats the only way to have everything properly categorised, and pretty much improves the user experience. Also its easier to see the wide range of categories we offer

[docholly]

Actually a few years ago I thought it would be a great concept for a LL owner or TGP owner to have a Portal system where the bookmarkers/surfers could pay a monthly fee (like 4.95) and subscribe to their particular 'fetish'/fetishes. Fresh new content would be delivered to their portal, depending on what they subscribed to. Running along side, could be banner ads etc for other things..like paysites, toy stores, etc. Interviews from pornstars, or live cam shows. etc.

the advantage would be a filtered search delivered to the surfer while still making money via the click throughs or joins.

I got this idea when Tommy was toying around with charging his bookmarkers a small fee. I still think in the right delivery system (MS wouldn't let me use theirs) it could be a new powerful way to get specific niches in front of the right eyes.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Fking

Also what about discusssing this normally, without hate-oriented comments? You are grown man, long enough in the biz, lets keep it professional and in a good manner?

What on Earth are you talking about? Hate-oriented? Where? Quote me!

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

[NY Jester]

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering

Yeah that sounds like a good idea U.W..

J-

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What on Earth are you talking about? Hate-oriented? Where? Quote me!

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

"potentially illegal conglomerated hunk o' shit"
"It's so stupid, it's almost genius"
"responded in your SPAM thread"
"same shit they could find at any large link list for free. Is your program really doing so poorly that you needed to find another way to profit off of the efforts of affiliates?"


well its not big deal but it isnt too professional as well
i have a rule, when talking on the boards, dont say anything you wouldnt say in the face of the person

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Fking

i have a rule, when talking on the boards, dont say anything you wouldnt say in the face of the person

Me too. Buy me a drink some time and I'll say the same things in person. What I said wasn't hateful at all. It was my honest opinion.

Where are the pay options? I played with it and don't see them. Is it not finished?

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by Fking

"It's so stupid, it's almost genius"

Well damn, that's a compliment! Some of my stupidest most hare brained ideas are the ones that have been the most successful. My other stupid ideas are waiting for the world to dumb down to genius level or at least get a sense of humour
A lot of my good ones have bordered on illegal or at least distasteful as well, it's a fine line.
You really should learn how to accept a compliment, Useless sometimes forgets to take his happy pills, and if he does, you'll know it

[Jel]

Proven credit card users viewing galleries hosted on the original servers of the gallery builder?

[nekrom]

I reckon it's a great concept.

Credit Card verified surfers using a tool to search out and find my galleries/freesites with all my sales/marketing text & linkcodes still in place.

Spider my sites thanks.

-N

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Me too. Buy me a drink some time and I'll say the same things in person. What I said wasn't hateful at all. It was my honest opinion.

Where are the pay options? I played with it and don't see them. Is it not finished?

ok sorry, prolly because its hard to get the emotion behind the written text, i took it too strong I cant wait to meet you


about the payment, the results on first page for every category are free, except the last row
so basicly the first 20 galleries for every category can be viewed for free, try to click on some of the next ones and you will get a join page

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Jel

Proven credit card users viewing galleries hosted on the original servers of the gallery builder?

Originally Posted by nekrom

I reckon it's a great concept.

Credit Card verified surfers using a tool to search out and find my galleries/freesites with all my sales/marketing text & linkcodes still in place.

Spider my sites thanks.

-N

absolutelly correct, thank you



@SheepGuy

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Fking

We take that 1:1000 is an OK conversion ratio in nowadays
that means that from 1000 people, 999 dont join and just one joins.
1 is 0.01% from 1000
that means that in this case 99.9% are free loaders for the current site

That ratio depends on a great number of factors, how extensive is your research? Is it a guess or are numbers backing this up?

Originally Posted by Fking

"Well maybe if you offer them, all the free porn on the net, neatly categorised and easy to browse and search, updated daily with thousands of fresh pics and movies. Providing them only clean galleries, no pop-ups, no wrong redirects.....they may be willing to pay few bucks per month for that convenience, to have all this handy.
"

Maybe they would, but why would they when they have it all for free right now? IMHO your site is doing nothing new other than trying to charge surfers to view free porn which is not really new either, as far as an idea. All that being said, it will be interesting to see how the site does and what happens in the future.

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

Yeah, that's not really what I would call a search... Maybe the button should read Browse.

[NY Jester]

are the top results always the same? Is it weighted? Or do the rotate out randomly?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

That ratio depends on a great number of factors, how extensive is your research? Is it a guess or are numbers backing this up?

I've took what's considered to be industry standart ok ratio nowadays
its just an example, i dont pretend for scientific precision
anyway, its for sure under 1% (even 1:100 which is considered to be ok SE ratio, means that 99% are free loaders)

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Maybe they would, but why would they when they have it all for free right now? IMHO your site is doing nothing new other than trying to charge surfers to view free porn which is not really new either, as far as an idea. All that being said, it will be interesting to see how the site does and what happens in the future.

because we provide them in a easy to find way, no skim, no pop-ups, no false redirects and so on
you pay for the convinience of the service
that's why and the fee is so small

[Fking]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

are the top results always the same? Is it weighted? Or do the rotate out randomly?

it shows the newest results on top
they are mostly sorted by date

[Fking]

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Yeah, that's not really what I would call a search... Maybe the button should read Browse.

with "browse" it wont be innovative, hehe

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Fking

with "browse" it wont be innovative, hehe

But it would be truthful

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Fun Fact: one of the many things that ePassporte was supposed to do is something very similar to this (sorta like a token system where you bought access to individual clean gallery pages)

[Jeka]

1 out of 1000 is not 0.01% but 0.1% or 0.001 without %

Furthermore, you cannot say that just because only 1 out of 1000 joins all 999 others are free loaders. Many of these 999 might have joined other paysites in the past or will join in future.

In my opinion your system is a nice idea and I wouldn't mind getting proven credit card owner traffic or even free niche targeted traffic to my galleries at all.
I don't see a problem with sponsor content neither. You don't offer the people anything different than any other tgp, mgp, et al. And sponsors had no problem with tgps with banner ads to other sponsors or dating or pills upsales on the galleries neither. Additionally you don't offer full movies / picture sets but just galleries with short 30 sec clips. Thus it's not really a problem in my opinion.

As you mentioned above you don't host the content but only sell a database with links to free public content basically.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Jeka

In my opinion your system is a nice idea and I wouldn't mind getting proven credit card owner traffic or even free niche targeted traffic to my galleries at all.
I don't see a problem with sponsor content neither. You don't offer the people anything different than any other tgp, mgp, et al. And sponsors had no problem with tgps with banner ads to other sponsors or dating or pills upsales on the galleries neither. Additionally you don't offer full movies / picture sets but just galleries with short 30 sec clips. Thus it's not really a problem in my opinion.

As long as you don't mind someone else profiting from your work/content/property without you getting a cent, I suppose it's no big deal. But for me, if someone thinks that they can charge for access to my web properties, well, they have another thing coming.

And I love how you slow thinkers bring up "proven credit card owner traffic" when they are deliberately marketing to "freeloaders". Yup, that makes sense.

[NY Jester]

I can see the benefits of this as it is basically a Porn Search Engine only difference is they are charging the viewers for the full list. So big difference...

And I still have to side with UW, the "sell" is to porn freeloaders as described in detail with %'s and numbers and yet there is talk about proven credit card traffic...erroneous!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

Check 1. Check 2. Is this thing on?

Fking, do you truly employ a bot to spider for your listings? How does the bot know that the galleries are clean?

[RageCash-Ben]

As a gallery maker myself I would think that surfers who have already used their credit cards are just the sort of surfer I would want viewing my galleries.

I didn't look at this in detail. Is there something I am missing?

[Jeka]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

As long as you don't mind someone else profiting from your work/content/property without you getting a cent, I suppose it's no big deal. But for me, if someone thinks that they can charge for access to my web properties, well, they have another thing coming.

And I love how you slow thinkers bring up "proven credit card owner traffic" when they are deliberately marketing to "freeloaders". Yup, that makes sense.

But you still get free niche traffic to your galleries and you could even make money yourself by promoting the site with 404 traffic etc.