First FreeSites

[robcio]

Hey guys!
Firstly i would like to say hello to everyone 'cause i'm new here :] so... HELLO!

These're my very first freesites

1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

I'd like to hear from You any comments, advices before i start to add them to link lists. Please write what i've to change etc.

Thank You,
Greetings!

[spacemanspiff]

1. I didn't look at all of your pics, but the ones I looked at were 700 X 467 which will keep you from getting listed at Greenguys.

2. You're allowed 3 outgoing links per page at most places. Use em.

3. You won't get listed at my link list since you're not submitting.

I didn't look at your hosting or your registrar or where you buy your groceries or what kind of shampoo you use. Someone will be along shortly to do that. Otherwise, the sites look fine to me.

[NY Jester]

As Space man pointed out the short side of many of your pics is under 500 pixels that may keep you off many of the sites. What will keep you off all the sites however is lack of the - 18 USC 2257 information - most if not all of the Link Lists require this information being present and to help protect yourself, its mandated as well.

You'll need to watch the Blind Links - sample 3 has "Enter main site" and below that has "come in.." You'll want to be specific as to what/where the surfer will go/see. Instead you could say something like "Check Out All the Pornstars at Midnight Prowl"

Another small point is the actual number of pics. Some especially the larger LL's require 12 pics per page. My best advise to you is to go and check out the Lists youd like to submit to and read their rules, and also see what they are listing to get a better feel for what goes over and what doesnt. Otherwise the sites look good.

Best to you
J-

[Useless]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

What will keep you off all the sites however is lack of the - 18 USC 2257 information - most if not all of the Link Lists require this information being present and to help protect yourself, its mandated as well.

Hate to differ with you, Jester, but that's not at all true. Most link lists don't concern themselves with 2257 statements. We don't work for the DOJ.

robcio - I don't like the shampoo you use, so I wouldn't list your sites.

[NY Jester]

UW, I have to say you are mostly corrrect. I do see it alot on TGP submits, more so than LL submits. I guess Im just in the habit to add it as precaution. Color me corrected.

[robcio]

Thanks for advices, i've already corrected it:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

Is it ok now?

UW - what kind of shampoos you prefer? I'm open to changes... :]

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by robcio

Thanks for advices, i've already corrected it:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

Is it ok now?

UW - what kind of shampoos you prefer? I'm open to changes... :]

The first site still has a blind "enter" link on the main page - change it to visit or something other than enter.

Other than that, I agree with spacemanspiff "You won't get listed at my link list since you're not submitting."

Oh - and as for Useless - does he look like he knows ANYTHING about shampoo?

[robcio]

Thank You guys for replies - that was very helpfull. I will start today addin' my sites to LLs but i've got one more question... it's 'bout niche - at my sponsor's site, there is written that midnightprowl is "reality" niche but i found difficult in some LLs to find such category. I will add them to Pornstar's niche ... i think it's correct 'cause on their banners we can see text like: "average guys fuck pornstars" etc, what do ya think?

And one more.... papagmp, to what niche i've to add my site in your LL? There's no Pornstar's...

Thank You and Greetz

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by robcio

And one more.... papagmp, to what niche i've to add my site in your LL? There's no Pornstar's...
Thank You and Greetz

Look at the actual content of the site -

IMO -
best fits are:
1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
Asian

2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
There is mixed content on this site - may get you denied at some LL's
gallery 1 I'd put into babes
gallery 2 would go into hardcore
I'd put it into babes as it sits right now

3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/ Orgy/Groupsex

Content of the FS is what determines the cat - not the niche of the sponsor's site.

For example, glassmannequin.com is an amateur site focused on teens but I can make free sites with our content that fit well into one or more of the following cats: teens, big tits, oral sex, hardcore, softcore, videos, amateur, brunettes, redheads, blonds, interracial, old and young, anal, cream pie, facials, petite, big tits, tiny tits etc.....

look at these:
Sex Toys / Dildos
Teen Hardcore
Toys / dildos
Teen + (videos)

Lesbians + (teen or amateur)
Amateur + (teen) or Hardcore
Group Sex
Old and Young
Interracial
Teen Softcore
Amateur + Teen + Video or Hardcore Teen


I submit to about 100 LL's and I seldom have a free site that fits all of then exactly the same. Some sites break teen into 5 or 6 cats and there is at least one LL that does not have a teen cat at all.

As for submitting to me hen the cat is confusing, use the general recip and I'll put it where I think it fits best.

Hope this helps

PapaGMP

[robcio]

Thank you papagmp!

I was making recips last 2 hours to cat pornstars ;] so i'll try to add these 3 sites there, i'll look at next FSs's content before i make recips for them, although these pictures doesn't fit cat pornstars?

[robcio]

hello, got question for ya...
i've made this FS:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...tted_pornstar/

i've added it to LLs but now i noticed that i haven't linked banner and 'JOIN NOW' text on the index page, can i change it now?? (after adding?)

Greetings

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by robcio

hello, got question for ya...
i've made this FS:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...tted_pornstar/

i've added it to LLs but now i noticed that i haven't linked banner and 'JOIN NOW' text on the index page, can i change it now?? (after adding?)

Greetings

As long as you still follow the rules i couldn't care less.

[Fonz]

Robcio, another thing...

You submit all your sites to the pornstar category while the actual content is from a normal girl getting banged by a few guys. The pornstar category is moer reserved for the well know porn stars like Gina Lynn, Jenna Jameson, Useless Warrior, etc.
Not every girl doing hardcore is your typical pornstar. Your freesites belong in the asian, group, etc. categories IMO.

[robcio]

thx guys

anyways, i've to change the site to promote 'cause there's no many unqs at midnight prowl (i'll choose some site with specific content like anal or sth, then there'll be no problems 'bout what category it is...)

tell me if U can, is it better to fill one niche and to promote one site? or change them from time to time?

and one more thing - 'bout recips..... graphic or text? which're better in your oppinion?

Thank You!

[Useless]

What is that, ebonics?

[papagmp]

First, I remember back to when I just started and I had many of the same questions - hang in there - your last FS was better than the first and they will continue to get better as long as you keep and open mind to suggestions.

The issue of cat will be one regardless of sponsor and has less (or nothing) to to with the sponsor but with the the content you use on the free-site. My pay site is a teen/amateur pay site but I submit FS's to sex toys, group sex, amateur, teens, interracial, old and young, bit tits, petite, etc... Again, it's the content of the Free Site - not the sponsor.

Also, most of the LL owners like to see submissions to a variety of cats so any one cat isn't over saturated - especially with one style FS.

Since you use a general recip with me, I can look at the FS and place it in the cat I feel best - I'm happy to do this but I don't get thousands of submissions per day either.

No problem promoting various sponsors - try a few and see what works best for you. Many submitters have a number of sponsors they promote.

I don't have a preference for recips, graphic or text, as long as they are executed properly. take a look at this thread http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=44187

[robcio]

UW: what is ebonics? I don't understand, sorry

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What is that, ebonics?

- Good morning Useless - always great to hear your humor so early in the morning.......

[robcio]

hi again, got another question for You.... i've made over 20 FreeSites already and i've got ratio from the beginning.... 0:2740 !
Is it possible? Not a single submit?

Greetings

[LD]

Originally Posted by robcio

and one more thing - 'bout recips..... graphic or text? which're better in your oppinion?

Thank You!

When I started using text recips, I got fewer rejects. It's the first thing a reviewer looks at, and I think text recips make for a neater looking first page. First impressions, you know.

I get submissions for my list all the time that have 16+ graphic recips, and while I don't normally reject just for that, I do believe those sites would look much, much better with text recips.

[LD]

Originally Posted by robcio

hi again, got another question for You.... i've made over 20 FreeSites already and i've got ratio from the beginning.... 0:2740 !
Is it possible? Not a single submit?

Greetings

Yes, it is possible, but for me conversion ratios seem to be improving with time. Interesting thing I notriced...my most recent sale, which happened yesterday was from a site I submitted Nov 07. I don't know about everyone else, but the initial rush of traffic I get when i first submit is often unproductive.

Add to that that some lists take a month or more just to list you, it can be a game of patience and determination.

[NY Jester]

What I find as well, is after the initial rush of a newly listed site is when some larger LL's rotate out the links to start with a particular letter..you'll see that rush again as your sites letter hits the top of that category.

Robcio..if youre finding the ratios are too poor for a certain sponsor, switch them out. use a different one or try working with a different niche.

[robcio]

Thanks guys, i've already started using text recips...
i think that i will try another sponsor.. i don't know, can you recommend some?

p.s. LusciousDelight ... your avatar is just great... that Michael hehehe

[Mateusz]

I checked few sponsors and ratios (FS traffic) for last year varied from 1:2000 - 1:2500 (first page clicks) so I wouldnt be expecting too much at start. And to confirm what other said - I've got only a couple of sign ups in my history within first week after site being listed, most come after 1-2 months.. and I still get SUs from sites I submited 2-3 years ago from time to time

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by robcio

Hey guys!
Firstly i would like to say hello to everyone 'cause i'm new here :] so... HELLO!

These're my very first freesites

1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

I'd like to hear from You any comments, advices before i start to add them to link lists. Please write what i've to change etc.

Thank You,
Greetings!

the reason why i wouldnt list you, are the domains listed on the 2257, even not linked, why the hell put all those www. just anydomains.com there, i woudnt list you, not because i dont like your sites, i do like them , i wouldnt list them to protect yourself, even i just copie and past text www like that in my browser to check sites when i see them, so what if the surfer check those all and buy some , you wouldnt earn shit with that.