is there any way to tell if one of your sites has been penalized

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Bill

Being truly removed isn't all that common tho.

Discovering you've dropped into the netherworld of "below the first hundred or coupla hundred results" is much more common.

Which feels like a penalty.

thats what happened :-)

its a little fake tgp, in fact most of my fake tgps went south in google

the webmaster tools thingy shows it was number 6 for the keyword in January but nows its on page 28

thanks for the info Dave :-)