How to start a paysite

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Anyway what are the pros and cons of AVS verses just going at it on your own? Seems like anyone who knows what they are doing doesn't do AVS any longer (from lurking various places) and I was just curious why?

AVS is old school and so it just can't work anymore. The only way to make money is with a tube site. Now where is that sarcasm smilie.

I have a dozen AVS sites that I run as mini paysites. The good news is that you do not have to worry about a back end to keep members rebilling like a paysite. The bad news is you are still trusting the AVS sponsor not to screw/shave you like other programs.

Like everything else, some sites will sell better than others so start with one that you have traffic for already and convert other sites with.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

I have a dozen AVS sites that I run as mini paysites. The good news is that you do not have to worry about a back end to keep members rebilling like a paysite. The bad news is you are still trusting the AVS sponsor not to screw/shave you like other programs.

Does this mean you're basically a glorfied affiliate doing more work? This is sort of what I want to avoid. Does it at least pay better and cut down on some of the screwing? Can you take it out of the AVS system if it starts doing anything?

probably I should just toss up something shitty and cheap just to go through the ritual and get a little bit of knowledge expecting it to be an expense.

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Does this mean you're basically a glorfied affiliate doing more work? This is sort of what I want to avoid. Does it at least pay better and cut down on some of the screwing? Can you take it out of the AVS system if it starts doing anything?

Yes, you are a glorified affiliate doing more work.

If other programs retained as well I probably would not of tried AVS. SheepGuy convinced me to try it and I thank him for it.

At NV, $3 for 7 day trial, $15 for full month, $22 on rebills plus they just upped payouts to $17.50 for upsells to their own program. About 15% of my members are rebilling at $39.50 a month. You can also upsell within your members area but that really only turns into an extra couple of sales here and there, for me at least.

It's your site, so if you want to pull it and turn it into a paysite, go ahead. Probably better to leave a smaller softer members area as AVS and then upsell your bigger better paysite if you decide to go that way.

I have been on the fence about turning mine into paysites for over a year now. Having affiliates does not guarantee more sales if you can't get the ones that actually sell to promote you.

Probably the cheapest way to see if you can sell your own site, especially if you have content laying around not doing a damn thing. All my sites started that way I always start with a couple thousand pics or more but you only need like 400 to start one.

Then again, this is old school stuff so it just can't work anymore

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

Yes, you are a glorified affiliate doing more work.

If other programs retained as well I probably would not of tried AVS. SheepGuy convinced me to try it and I thank him for it.

At NV, $3 for 7 day trial, $15 for full month, $22 on rebills plus they just upped payouts to $17.50 for upsells to their own program. About 15% of my members are rebilling at $39.50 a month. You can also upsell within your members area but that really only turns into an extra couple of sales here and there, for me at least.

It's your site, so if you want to pull it and turn it into a paysite, go ahead. Probably better to leave a smaller softer members area as AVS and then upsell your bigger better paysite if you decide to go that way.

I have been on the fence about turning mine into paysites for over a year now. Having affiliates does not guarantee more sales if you can't get the ones that actually sell to promote you.

Probably the cheapest way to see if you can sell your own site, especially if you have content laying around not doing a damn thing. All my sites started that way I always start with a couple thousand pics or more but you only need like 400 to start one.

Then again, this is old school stuff so it just can't work anymore

Thanks I appreciate the info. I like old school stuff. The new schools have been costing me an arm and a leg LOL.

So you start these things only with pics? No clips?