Non-English Speaking Webmasters

[oldbrad]

Originally Posted by Samoseks

I explained this before. The majority of people in my country don't have a credit card. They pay for porn by sending SMS from they mobile phones. Last year I've had over 700 signups but I earned only 250 dollars (yes, I need almost 3 signups for 1$).

I think i read the thread you refer too. Wasn't the reason you only made the small amount because you were doing free trials or something similar, but if you had promoted per sign up you would have made a much larger amount. Or was it actually due to your location?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Jim

...All I am saying is that by excluding all webmasters because their english "ain't as good as ares are" is leaving a ton of money on the table....

I don't see how I'm leaving money on the table by not listing sites that use poor grammar or can't find the spell check button, but I'm sure you'll tell me

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Well, just about any income in the States is subject to taxation but when you get paid with cash, who's to know how much you make? I don't know a self respecting ho that honestly reports all her income Lot of ho's on welfare driving VERY nice cars...

well thats why the tax guys here just send you the tax papers infront of what they think you will earn this year, first you pay and then you have the chanse to proof you didnt earn so much and you get some money back

[Samoseks]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

If I got paid $1 for 3 signups I would quit selling porn and walk along the side the road and pick up aluminum cans and sell them for scrap metal |goodidea Damn, 700 signups and $250 ??? Let's work out an arrangement where your signups are credited to me and we'll split the $24,000 |goodidea

Great offer. I accept.

Originally Posted by oldbrad

I think i read the thread you refer too. Wasn't the reason you only made the small amount because you were doing free trials or something similar, but if you had promoted per sign up you would have made a much larger amount. Or was it actually due to your location?

It's a two day membership and surfers don't have another option. With SMS you cannot have recurring payment. BTW The average income in my country is less than $300/month.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by redglow

As a 5" tall girl...

Give my best to Mothra.

[johnnybg]

This is very complicated issue. It can't be explained with generalisations and "black or white" arguments.

There are countries where it can be done - Germny, France, Spain,... with less financial risk involved
There are countries where it would be extremely difficult to do - eastern Europe - low salaries, small number of people online, reduced payment options, bad reputation (frauds).

There are other factors involved:
1. English is de facto official world language today.
2. People hardly read text when it comes to porn. It's visual entertainment. If your English is poor you can get away with it if your tits are nice.
3. It's easiest to do English sites because all neccesary things are there - demand, developed market, quality sponsors, variety of payment options... If you opt for non-English sites you have to develop much of those things yourself which spells much more work. It would be fine if it would guarantee more income - but it doesn't.

While we are on this topic, here are a few things which I must live with just because I'm from Serbia:
1. About 50% of affiliate programs don't accept WMs from my country, and those programs are all good and reputable.
2. My reputation was tarnished by fraudsters even before I decided to do this business. How many of you really would trust me, even if I am a member of this board for several years?
3. I couldn't get a credit card until 2002.
4. I can't open Paypal account because my country is not on the list ( eBay is out, too)
5. I can't open Epassporte, too.
6. 4+5 means that I can't get submit passes to TGPs which require funds from mentioned accounts.

No complaints here, I know perfectly well the reasons for these problems. It's just a reminder how different my work is in comparison to WMs from US, UK, etc.

Now to the point - I don't sell porn in Serbia for exactly the same reasons that are the cause of my problems.

[Greenguy]

johnnybg - you're another one of the foreign webmasters that if you didn't tell me (or have Serbia & Montenegro as your location) I'd have no idea that English was not you native language. I'd trust you (to a point, but only because I do not personally know you - meaing you're not getting my FTP info anytime soon - lol)

See...I don't hate everyone

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

when i go for an holiday to Mallorca i wont speak spanish either, i will speak my evil dutch english...the only thing i know in spanish is: una servesa ...or something like that

Spanish lesson for Stu
una cerveza por favor (one beer please)
donde esta el bano (where is the bathroom)
gracias (thank you)
no gracias (no thank you)

for what it's worth I tried a variation of my pay site in Spanish and got zero sales so gave up on it.
I get an occasional credit card sale from Mexico and most of the pay by phone sales to my written in English site are from Mexico

[redglow]

Originally Posted by Simon

Give my best to Mothra.

Hum, will stop posting in the middle of night soon.....
I managed to make myself smaller than the average penis

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Simon

Give my best to Mothra.

Now that's comedy gold. I wish I had caught that my last time through this thread.

[Schpork]

I actually do both but i'm fine with the English because im actually from Australia.. I have 1 Dutch and 1 US blog at the moment but im adding 1 of both.. Dutch traffic is easier to convert but its harder to get, US traffic is easier to get but harder to convert. So it's more intresting to do both. As of your question why all the non-english webmasters make english websites, the answer is quite simple. Everybody finds US pages on google and most big porn sites are US, so people get the impression that the US porn industry is the easiest to make $$ in. If that statement is wright or wrong is an entirely different conversation ^^

Greetz, Schpork

[MightyMidget]

What then broken isn't man not say why the boat is any more on green under side with did not speak english and then can?

to all haters one must forgets to pinpoint that porno cannot I not buy!!!!

[Licker4U]

WTF?? |confused|

[nibbler]

Originally Posted by MightyMidget

What then broken isn't man not say why the boat is any more on green under side with did not speak english and then can?

to all haters one must forgets to pinpoint that porno cannot I not buy!!!!

Man, it's getting much harder to decipher this stuff: sarcastic, witty, or something else. Shit, I give up

[Fonz]

Alright, I meant to post much sooner but for some reason I didn't find the time to do so.

I have to agree with Schpork that dutch traffic converts MUCH better than English traffic but is a lot harder to get probably because there are a lot of dutch speaking webmasters and webmaster programs for only so much potential customers. I work with a company that managed to get it's fair share of dutch traffic over the years and is doing pretty good now on the dutch market but if you have to start from scratch you really have to know what you're doing. There are a lot more resources out there that handle about English sites and English traffic so I can see why most people take that route.

And hey, if I was someone from some eastern european (no offense) country and 1 signup would make me as much as I could make in a week with a normal job. I'd be putting together a ton of sites in crappy English and throw them online even if they converted 1:10,000

So Greenie, you still keep claiming I speak with an accent now do you?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Fonz

...So Greenie, you still keep claiming I speak with an accent now do you?

I had a little bit of difficulty understanding you down in Miami, but it got real bad when the Cheeto's came out

[MightyMidget]

Originally Posted by nibbler

Man, it's getting much harder to decipher this stuff: sarcastic, witty, or something else. Shit, I give up

I'm awfully sorry about that whole mess; my Greek to English pocket translator apparently suffered from a breakdown last night and the embarassing result is there for everyone to see. I would also like to apologize for my dry sense of humour.

On a more serious sidenote this thread has given me some ideas. Maybe Swedish online porn is a goldmine, I honestly never even thought about it. I refuse to leave the English-speaking market though; if ABBA and IKEA could do it, then so can I!

[SheepGuy]

[quote=MightyMidget;336214 I refuse to leave the English-speaking market though; if ABBA and IKEA could do it, then so can I![/QUOTE]

LOL, please don't tell me the IKEA dude is doing porn
ABBA, well alrighty then

[picXX]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

LOL, please don't tell me the IKEA dude is doing porn
ABBA, well alrighty then

IKEA kitchen porn

Enjoy

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by picXX

IKEA kitchen porn

Enjoy

Well at least the bearded dude isn't in it