If You Were Inventing the Link List Today... - Page 3

Useless · 2012-01-14, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

UW... have you seen the hosted tubes? check my sig free porn buddy. 100% hands-free... just promote.

That's far too easy. I enjoy the struggle and eventual defeat of creating my own sites. Though I do have a really good domain I could use for a hosted tube.

LowryBigwood · 2012-01-15, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That's far too easy. I enjoy the struggle and eventual defeat of creating my own sites. Though I do have a really good domain I could use for a hosted tube.

haha. It really is easy... and to me, this type of site is very bookmarkable and with a good domain, brandable. They even give you enough control to control some of the on page seo stuff.

Greenguy · 2012-01-15, 11:28 AM

YOU AREN'T TALKING ABOUT A LINK LIST!

Bill · 2012-01-15, 10:47 PM

We knew you'd say that.

---

lets see, what other directions could you go?

The whole freesite concept is based in a model of minor-protection, a concept that has been pretty much completely dumped by society, except among republican candidates. The anachronistic "warning page". Hell, thats why I settled on freesites, originally, I was concerned that the gummit might crack down and arrest people - it was coincidental that freesites provided a good selling platform.

Lol, I'm such a sucker, I still think minor-protection is a good idea. Thats probably why I'm doomed to die in this fucking stagnant pond.

But I think we have to look at the content - linklists link to freesites - it's a partnership - so what would teh new "not a linklist" link to, if anything? What is the content?

Hmmm - on second thought - you don't really want to link to things, you just want things to link to you - so in one possible future the new not-linklist needs to be a linkbait factory, basically.

But, that pretty much destroys the partnership model of the linklist and all pretube traffic systems. Which is the trend anyway - so again we all here die in this stinking bone-clogged pond.

Well, it's pretty clear what you need, then.

Everything revolves around one thing - the revenue models.

First you tackle the revenue models. Then, the traffic will take care of itself, attracted by revenue.

pc · 2012-01-17, 07:12 AM

If someone is looking for a free social bookmarking / linklist 2.0 script/platform http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/ is a good start.

Simon · 2012-01-17, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LD

'responsive' design, as I understand it, uses css3 and allows images to scale

And there's the rub. On large desktop or notebook computers you can use larger images with larger file sizes. Scaling them means those big image files are all still being sent to the netbook, tablet and smartphone users. Really bad idea.

Plus there's the whole navigation issue, with mobile devices offering touch screens and losing all hover and mouseover usage.

Liquid is about all you can do with most adult sites since most pages have images or graphics of some kind.

Sites that are mostly text...or that are designed first for mobile users (netbook, tablet and smartphone)...are the ones that could benefit most from responsive design techniques.

Here's something worth taking the time to read if you're thinking of putting in the work to create a responsive site:

11 Reasons why Responsive Design isn't that cool

pc · 2012-01-25, 03:04 PM

OK OK , I have new script
http://pligg.com/
who is going to create a SALL > socialadultlinklist

dunc · 2012-01-26, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pc

OK OK , I have new script
http://pligg.com/
who is going to create a SALL > socialadultlinklist

I've been looking at that one

The Epic · 2012-01-27, 02:51 AM

I messed around with Pligg a little bit. Seems like it could make itself useful, but I've only used it a little so I guess time would tell.

Bill · 2012-01-27, 03:34 AM

Lets see - a "new not-linklist" would need features like this.

It would have to remove or seriously reduce the reviewing process. The ideal is that every link submitted would be automatically accepted and posted. Profits are too low to expect either the labor cost on the review side or the rejection cost on the content assembly side to be born - it has to be cheaper for everyone.

Along that same line - it should be as low labor as possible.

It would have to be acceptable to the existing linklists as a legitimate recip. That shouldn't be hard.

It should reward assembler effort and profitability in some way. It might work if it delivers content in a more entertaining way than the tubes, with more text for the spiders. (a huffpo kind of thing, but for porn).

Along that same line, it would work best if it had a revenue sharing and spider-attraction rewards system. Like, say, users get free time in paysites, and content creators earn money or, worse case say, points, symbolic money that can be redeemed - one hopes. And whoever creates text that gets spidered gets points.

Some challenging scripting there - but scripting is not the huge obstacle it was some years back.

Ramster · 2012-01-27, 01:54 PM

How about instead of being a link farm you host ALL of the free sites on your domain.

Set up hosting logins for 10 of your friends or trusted submitters, each with their own section. So when Bill logs in via FTP it's linklistname.com/bill as an example. And you as the link list owner host every single site they submit. You gain hundreds, maybe 1000's of internal content and pages and in essence content so google should like you more.

And if a webmaster goes offline you don't don't have a bunch of sites going 404.

Bill · 2012-01-27, 06:22 PM

Thats brilliant Ram - obvious in retrospect, I shoulda thought of that one too - I was mostly thinking of text content, but why not have the assembled content all there in that "huffpo of porn" structure too?

In the old days the content licensing might have made that forwned upon, but the model of content licensing these days is very different, in attitude at least.

Increase in-domain surfer stickiness and time spent at the domain, get around the google algo - brilliant.

Tommy · 2012-02-01, 05:23 PM

I actually have an idea for a link list that I think could bring huge money in.. its really out of the box.. .. but its a long term plan to monetize it . I dont have the time to do it .. I started it.... but each category turns into a full time job.

Bill · 2012-02-01, 06:44 PM

Dude - nice to see ya, man.

Yes, if you want to create a "huffpo of porn" effect, a single domain with a ton of content on it, it would need to be a "'crowd" effort. No single person could do it.

I have been thinking about this a fair amount myself, and it's pretty clear it would be a huge amount of work.

So, if you decide to go in that direction, you have to figure out a way to get teams of people to work together. Some kind of revenue sharing is the most likely way to accomplish that.

The old linklist model was also a kind of revenue sharing.

Tommy · 2012-02-07, 01:32 PM

Hey Bill

There is little reason to use a directory for Free Porn anymore. if your gonna do a directory or "link list" you need to stay in areas that people need and use directorys

Cleo · 2012-02-07, 01:57 PM

A lot of reading in this thread... I skimmed through it.

I always thought that having a LL where users could rate and comment about the links would be good. Users can over at my tube but never do so I guess not. Still it would be something that I would try if I had the time and the desire to spend hours getting a new script up and running.

Surfers want quick access to what they are looking for.

Useless · 2012-02-09, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

I always thought that having a LL where users could rate and comment about the links would be good.

I've had rating and commenting at Perv forever. Hardly anyone comments. Those who do, leave weird, sometimes sick comments. Not difficult to police though. The people who use the rating system (1-10 stars) almost always rate free sites really low.

I think the perfect thing to link to, for both surfers and SE's, is a hybrid gallery. You'd have a full text blog post on one side of the page and thumbnails on the other. Or any combination of heavy text and images. The SE's would get their text content and surfers would get their visual content without having to go through page after page to find it. The free site might be the biggest weakness in the link list game. We link to an index page with 3 ads, 12-20 recip links, and little to no page content. There's no balance between links out and content.

LD · 2012-02-10, 12:34 PM

Do you guys think merging a tube and a linklist is a good idea? I know it's not a new idea, but if it were done right with say a row of tube videos and a section of links in the same niche below it with a heading like "more blowjob FREE sites"...I've kicked it around, thought about doing a test page.

pc · 2012-02-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LD

Do you guys think merging a tube and a linklist is a good idea? I know it's not a new idea, but if it were done right with say a row of tube videos and a section of links in the same niche below it with a heading like "more blowjob FREE sites"...I've kicked it around, thought about doing a test page.

If done then I would say a tube as a subcategory not a free-sites below. First of all you would loose the submitters because nobody would scroll down to those submitted links. Other thing is I would rather allow for submitters to submit this tube pages.

2012-01-15, 11:28 AM	#3
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2012-01-27, 02:51 AM	#9
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2012-01-27, 01:54 PM	#11
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,872	How about instead of being a link farm you host ALL of the free sites on your domain. Set up hosting logins for 10 of your friends or trusted submitters, each with their own section. So when Bill logs in via FTP it's linklistname.com/bill as an example. And you as the link list owner host every single site they submit. You gain hundreds, maybe 1000's of internal content and pages and in essence content so google should like you more. And if a webmaster goes offline you don't don't have a bunch of sites going 404. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2012-02-01, 05:23 PM	#13
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I actually have an idea for a link list that I think could bring huge money in.. its really out of the box.. .. but its a long term plan to monetize it . I dont have the time to do it .. I started it.... but each category turns into a full time job. __________________ Accepting New partners

2012-02-07, 01:32 PM	#15
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	Hey Bill There is little reason to use a directory for Free Porn anymore. if your gonna do a directory or "link list" you need to stay in areas that people need and use directorys __________________ Accepting New partners

2012-01-15, 10:47 PM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	We knew you'd say that. --- lets see, what other directions could you go? The whole freesite concept is based in a model of minor-protection, a concept that has been pretty much completely dumped by society, except among republican candidates. The anachronistic "warning page". Hell, thats why I settled on freesites, originally, I was concerned that the gummit might crack down and arrest people - it was coincidental that freesites provided a good selling platform. Lol, I'm such a sucker, I still think minor-protection is a good idea. Thats probably why I'm doomed to die in this fucking stagnant pond. But I think we have to look at the content - linklists link to freesites - it's a partnership - so what would teh new "not a linklist" link to, if anything? What is the content? Hmmm - on second thought - you don't really want to link to things, you just want things to link to you - so in one possible future the new not-linklist needs to be a linkbait factory, basically. But, that pretty much destroys the partnership model of the linklist and all pretube traffic systems. Which is the trend anyway - so again we all here die in this stinking bone-clogged pond. Well, it's pretty clear what you need, then. Everything revolves around one thing - the revenue models. First you tackle the revenue models. Then, the traffic will take care of itself, attracted by revenue.

2012-01-17, 07:12 AM	#5
pc Shift Out / X-On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: unknown Posts: 2,298	If someone is looking for a free social bookmarking / linklist 2.0 script/platform http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/ is a good start.

2012-01-25, 03:04 PM	#7
pc Shift Out / X-On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: unknown Posts: 2,298	OK OK , I have new script http://pligg.com/ who is going to create a SALL > socialadultlinklist

2012-01-27, 03:34 AM	#10
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Lets see - a "new not-linklist" would need features like this. It would have to remove or seriously reduce the reviewing process. The ideal is that every link submitted would be automatically accepted and posted. Profits are too low to expect either the labor cost on the review side or the rejection cost on the content assembly side to be born - it has to be cheaper for everyone. Along that same line - it should be as low labor as possible. It would have to be acceptable to the existing linklists as a legitimate recip. That shouldn't be hard. It should reward assembler effort and profitability in some way. It might work if it delivers content in a more entertaining way than the tubes, with more text for the spiders. (a huffpo kind of thing, but for porn). Along that same line, it would work best if it had a revenue sharing and spider-attraction rewards system. Like, say, users get free time in paysites, and content creators earn money or, worse case say, points, symbolic money that can be redeemed - one hopes. And whoever creates text that gets spidered gets points. Some challenging scripting there - but scripting is not the huge obstacle it was some years back.

2012-01-27, 06:22 PM	#12
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Thats brilliant Ram - obvious in retrospect, I shoulda thought of that one too - I was mostly thinking of text content, but why not have the assembled content all there in that "huffpo of porn" structure too? In the old days the content licensing might have made that forwned upon, but the model of content licensing these days is very different, in attitude at least. Increase in-domain surfer stickiness and time spent at the domain, get around the google algo - brilliant.

2012-02-01, 06:44 PM	#14
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Dude - nice to see ya, man. Yes, if you want to create a "huffpo of porn" effect, a single domain with a ton of content on it, it would need to be a "'crowd" effort. No single person could do it. I have been thinking about this a fair amount myself, and it's pretty clear it would be a huge amount of work. So, if you decide to go in that direction, you have to figure out a way to get teams of people to work together. Some kind of revenue sharing is the most likely way to accomplish that. The old linklist model was also a kind of revenue sharing.

2012-02-07, 01:57 PM	#16
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	A lot of reading in this thread... I skimmed through it. I always thought that having a LL where users could rate and comment about the links would be good. Users can over at my tube but never do so I guess not. Still it would be something that I would try if I had the time and the desire to spend hours getting a new script up and running. Surfers want quick access to what they are looking for. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2012-02-10, 12:34 PM	#18
LD wtfwjd? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,103	Do you guys think merging a tube and a linklist is a good idea? I know it's not a new idea, but if it were done right with say a row of tube videos and a section of links in the same niche below it with a heading like "more blowjob FREE sites"...I've kicked it around, thought about doing a test page. __________________ Artisteer Wordpress Theme Generator Create Custom Themes! My Little Network

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