Critique LL Rules

[jonnydoe]

What do you guys think of these? If/When I ever get this thing flying...

FreeSite Submission Rules & Guidelines:

1) All Text MUST be written in fluent American English. I do not care if you are from Alabama or Albania.
2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders or Back Button Traps on your FreeSite or on any of your Sponsor Links.
3) Your Reciprocal Link Table must be well organized. All images or text should be properly centered and aligned.
4) You must place a reciprocal link to my site on your warning page along with 5 to 19 other REAL LinkLists.
5) Your Gallery Thumbnails should be Crisp and Clear.
6) There should be 2 or 3 Galleries with 3 being Preferred.
7) Screencaps are not allowed on Picture Galleries.
8) No Blind Links or Banners that appear to be Thumbnails.
9) No linking to any Images, Movies or Banners on any site other than the site you are submitting from.
10) Image Links should not open in a New Window or on HTML Pages.
11) NO Free or Sponsor provided Hosting.
12) NO Private or False Who-Is information for your domain.
13) Your email address must be from one of your own domains.
14) NO Underage, Animal, Piss, Shit, Vomit, BDSM with Penetration or anything else that is illegal or that I may find offensive.
15) No more than 3 outgoing links per page. This includes links to your Adult Sponsor, any Exit Sponsor and your Website. A 2257 Link is not counted.
16) A 2257 Link or Address is Required.
17) No Javascripts or Page Counters.
18) No Spyware, Viruses, Dialers or Traffic Redirection of any sort will be tolerated.
19) Video FreeSites should consist of at least 120 seconds of MPEG or WMV files and Picture FreeSites should consist of 24 pictures.
20) Most of these are common sense rules so show some common sense and there should be no problem with being listed. Build better, fresher sites with better, fresher content and you will be rewarded with better traffic.

Should I loosen anything up initially to get more submissions?

[Linkster]

I would dump those and copy Greenies - you might end up with a few more submissions that way

[stuveltje]

i just make my own, keep by the most common rules but if i like your site i will list it even it is against most of the rules ( well at my own ll then), i have to say all those rules makes me tired too as an reviewer, i review for several linksites but all have different rules, and i dont agree with all, but if the owensr wants it that way oke then it will be that way, i think every linksite owner should get his own rules and not think about the fact he or she wants to get listed with the receips of known linksites.Give your linksite a part of how you think and not how a other linksite owner thinks heay i am not a rebel here...just giving my own thoughts...or how the hell you write that

[SheepGuy]

I'd modify 2, to exclude pop-ups on sponsor links, or at least modify it a bit, a lot of good sponsors have delay or exit pop-ups
I'd drop 6, or modify it to say, a minimun of 2 galleries, dump 9, just because a lot of wm's pull banners from a domain they may not be submitting from , but own.
But that's just my opinion

[oldbrad]

You might loosen up on the inclusion of the exit link counting as 1 of the 3 allowable outlinks at first to get more submissions.

Also, you may want to add something similar to gg's rules on story sites if you allow them. Content rules, etc.

[stuveltje]

oke one question, why do people say focus on GGs rules?

[jonnydoe]

I think because if you can make it past the Green1 then you get accepted just about everywhere else ;-) I appreciate all the input keep it coming...

[oldbrad]

personally at least, i said it in this case because he just added defined rules to get a story site listed on his site including minimum stories, size minimum and more.

In general, especially on his board, i believe he is the standard to try to stick to. I think as he does things, so do many others so most just go to his to see the status quo.

Basically freesite builders most likely build their sites in hopes of being listed at his (and definately more) link list and build according to his rules. If someones rules are more strict, they may not get as many submissions from people building to his rules, i also think that the other big lists (smut gremlins, mpl's, etc.) have similar rules to his. You could probably interchange their names (i.e say mpl's, or sg's instead of Lor) but being we are where we are his name is thought of first.

Hope that makes sense lol

[oldbrad]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

I think because if you can make it past the Green1 then you get accepted just about everywhere else ;-) I appreciate all the input keep it coming...

Pretty much sums up what i said in a faster and more effective way lol.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

I think because if you can make it past the Green1 then you get accepted just about everywhere else ;-) I appreciate all the input keep it coming...

you think so, well i think you think wrong then, hell thats alot of thinking, gg has his own rules just like any other linksite have, my thought is, yes use the most common rules that are around which the most linksites have, but still try to give your LL a part of your own, so if you think if you got the rules of gg will get you more submits , i dont think so, because newbies and other webmasters like to submit to the old linksites more then to a new one and having the same rules wont give you more submits. What will give you more submits is the fact that other webmasters know you ...by posting on the boards or for this one you dont have be known or to be an oldie in this bizz...the russian and zcech bathroom group submitters will find every linksite to submit too and you dont have to get a rules page for that. My point is if you are seriouse in this bizz and realy wanna open a linksite then get known.... give your linksite something which will realy tell its YOUR LL . mmmmm i probably explain the wrong way...oh damn language thing

[jonnydoe]

How about this greatly simplified version?

1) All Text MUST be written in fluent American English. I do not care if you are from Alabama or Albania.
2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders or Back Button Traps on your FreeSite or on any of your Sponsor Links.
3) Your Reciprocal Link Table must be well organized. All images or text should be properly centered and aligned.
4) Follow the generally accepted practices of the Major LinkLists.

Number 1 and 3 are pet peeves of mine. Number 2 is something that will add something unique to my site (which I have just learned ;-)

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by oldbrad

Pretty much sums up what i said in a faster and more effective way lol.

oldbradi am (was and sometimes still am) a free site maker, i know the rules from other linksites and what got me listed at GG wont get me listed at some others, also other way around, if i get listed at tommy bookmarks it wont mean i get listed with the same site at Richards realm because they still have some rules which wont fit the rest even you are with your sites by the rules of the biggest LLs

[oldbrad]

I was trying to stay with the mpl and sg examples because i "believe" their rules are very close. I make mine to fit greenguy's rules and have had excellant success in getting accepted at all i submit to. Of course i still check and read the rules and follow them for each site.

Granted, i am still trying to get back into this and definately don't know everything and i also can count my freesites on all my fingers and toes. I'm no expert, but i think his list is just a universally known spot and a point of reference for us to use. I could also point to smutgremlins and megapornlinks (although i dont have a pass to submit there) and use their rules as a reference.

I didn't use tommys as an example because his list is definately different then what some link lists will take, but it's still a top notch site.

I think you have a great point that people should personalize their rules to fit them.

Point being, losts of sites have subtle differences and some have large differences in the rules, but i think any of the three i mentioned would be a great reference point for anyones list.

[Licker4U]

[quote=jonnydoe;334118]What do you guys think of these? If/When I ever get this thing flying...

FreeSite Submission Rules & Guidelines:

1) All Text MUST be written in fluent American English. I do not care if you are from Alabama or Albania.

Being from Alabama I resemble that remark

[jonnydoe]

Me 2 Licker ;-) Here is a copy for you :-)

1) All Text MUST be writ in fluent South Car'linan English. ah do not care eff'n yer fum Alabama o' Albania. 2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unners o' Back Button Traps on yer FreeSite o' on enny of yer Sponso' Links. 3) Yer Reciprocal Link Table muss be fine o'ganized, cuss it all t' tarnation. All images o' text sh'd be proper centered an' aligned, cuss it all t' tarnation. 4) Foller th' junerally accepped prackices of th' Majo' LinkLists.

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

How about this greatly simplified version?

1) All Text MUST be written in fluent American English. I do not care if you are from Alabama or Albania.
2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders or Back Button Traps on your FreeSite or on any of your Sponsor Links.
3) Your Reciprocal Link Table must be well organized. All images or text should be properly centered and aligned.
4) Follow the generally accepted practices of the Major LinkLists.

Number 1 and 3 are pet peeves of mine. Number 2 is something that will add something unique to my site (which I have just learned ;-)

I like rules like that. I don't like forgetting what rule #1 was by time if finished reading the list.

Now, If you can only get submitters to actually read them.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

you think so, well i think you think wrong then, hell thats alot of thinking, gg has his own rules just like any other linksite have, my thought is, yes use the most common rules that are around which the most linksites have, but still try to give your LL a part of your own, so if you think if you got the rules of gg will get you more submits , i dont think so, because newbies and other webmasters like to submit to the old linksites more then to a new one and having the same rules wont give you more submits. What will give you more submits is the fact that other webmasters know you ...by posting on the boards or for this one you dont have be known or to be an oldie in this bizz...the russian and zcech bathroom group submitters will find every linksite to submit too and you dont have to get a rules page for that. My point is if you are seriouse in this bizz and realy wanna open a linksite then get known.... give your linksite something which will realy tell its YOUR LL . mmmmm i probably explain the wrong way...oh damn language thing

I must be in BIG trouble, that made perfect sense Stu

Actually, it says a lot too. Every link site should contain some of the character of its owner, otherwise it's just another cookie cutter site.

So, there very well may be some nuances to the basics. I admit freely I'm more errrr...stringent about some things, than most sites. But, I built the site...work it every day, and like the guy looking at me in the mirror every morning.

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

How about this greatly simplified version?

1) All Text MUST be written in fluent American English. I do not care if you are from Alabama or Albania.
2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders or Back Button Traps on your FreeSite or on any of your Sponsor Links.
3) Your Reciprocal Link Table must be well organized. All images or text should be properly centered and aligned.
4) Follow the generally accepted practices of the Major LinkLists.

Number 1 and 3 are pet peeves of mine. Number 2 is something that will add something unique to my site (which I have just learned ;-)

Simple is great, but don't be too surprised that some folks either don't know or don't care about the GAPMLL

Are you planning on sending mails regarding submissions?

I've found that submitters really appreciate knowing why they got bounced. If it's someone that's obviously tried, but doesn't know the GAPMLL...I send em here for help

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

Me 2 Licker ;-) Here is a copy for you :-)

1) All Text MUST be writ in fluent South Car'linan English. ah do not care eff'n yer fum Alabama o' Albania. 2) Absolutely no Consoles, Pop-Ups, Pop-Unners o' Back Button Traps on yer FreeSite o' on enny of yer Sponso' Links. 3) Yer Reciprocal Link Table muss be fine o'ganized, cuss it all t' tarnation. All images o' text sh'd be proper centered an' aligned, cuss it all t' tarnation. 4) Foller th' junerally accepped prackices of th' Majo' LinkLists.

Your grasp of the English language is not that good. We suggest that you take a class at your local university so that you can learn how to speak proper English. Once you have accomplished this task, please feel free to return to the board and we will be more than willing to help you.

[Lemmy]

My personal feeling (with no bearing on present company) is that the rules hysteria sometimes gets a little out of hand, particularly on newer LLs. On my first LL I copied rules from everywhere else and tried to go into specific detail about every little thing I could imagine, to the point where I constantly had to consult my own rules while reviewing because I couldn't remember what they said.

On Quantum Porn I've taken a more relaxed approach only setting down a few basic ground rules. Apart from that, if you build a nice site, try to make an honest sale, don't try do dick me or the surfer around, you'll get listed.

[jonnydoe]

Great advice from all...I really appreciate it. I will focus on my main objectives in the beginning and if/when I get to the point I will crack the whip a tad bit harder.

Yum...I think the reply emails are great from personal experience. I will try to follow yor path in that area as long as I think I have someone that is close, genuine, capable and that I can communicate with. On your other comment...

Dang I bin workin on my english but 'da local 'munity collg sez I needz ta pass der eng-lish ex-am to git my self ad mitted on pro bation. I bin tinkin dat only gonna happen if I go and git that GED...ain't I rite?

[Greenguy]

I don't even have to read them to give my advice: base them on what you like to see when you're surfing & you won't go wrong

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

On your other comment...

Dang I bin workin on my english but 'da local 'munity collg sez I needz ta pass der eng-lish ex-am to git my self ad mitted on pro bation. I bin tinkin dat only gonna happen if I go and git that GED...ain't I rite?

Originally Posted by Greenie

I don't even have to read them to give my advice: base them on what you like to see when you're surfing & you won't go wrong

That's damn sound advice right there

[jonnydoe]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I don't even have to read them to give my advice: base them on what you like to see when you're surfing & you won't go wrong

FreeSites full of women my age with perfect natural bodies it will be then ;-)

[Useless]

Use my rules, they take up less space.

The last one is the most important: Each free site will be judged on its own merits, regardless of the stated rules.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Use my rules, they take up less space.

The last one is the most important: Each free site will be judged on its own merits, regardless of the stated rules.

That's a good un UW...I might have to pilfer that text

[fresh]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Use my rules, they take up less space.

The last one is the most important: Each free site will be judged on its own merits, regardless of the stated rules.

I would vote for these too. New LL dont need too sctrict rules if it wants more submits. Mostly i am talking about 24/1200 rules, whats that all about everybody coppying those ( not talking about this LL specificly, but in general)