AVNADS.COM and Adbrite: Fusker buddies - Page 3

RawAlex · 2005-03-23, 09:20 AM

Most amusing yet:

Pudster sent our his "fuckedcompany" newsletter today, finally letting on to what everyone has already figured out: he "went hollywood", moved to the west coast, and set up adbrite with a pile of VC money. I truly suspect his VC people would be really pleased to see how this is all going.

Hopefully this doesn't damage his bottom line too much.

Alex

Verbal · 2005-03-23, 10:53 AM

Thanks Aly for your efforts. We all appreciate it.

The best way to attack the Fusker problem I think, is at the partner/sponsor/host level. Make their partners aware of the situation and if they still do nothing, expose them on the boards.

Agent · 2005-03-23, 11:31 AM

Pud, now I know why that name is familiar...I used to read FuckedCompany for shits and giggles once in a while. What's his history in the adult biz? I haven't been following his work since the occasional FuckedCompany visit.

Ann Omness · 2005-03-23, 11:55 AM

I'm just glad to see that fusker was removed from the adbrite system. I spend quite a bit of money with adbrite and it bothered me that a site like fusker was one of the higher-traffic sites in their listings. I run a popular blog toplist and I always delete any blogs I find using fuskered content, or that contain a link to fusker. I am amazed and gratified that AVN was so responsive to this issue when it was brought to their attention. Thanks, Aly!

urb · 2005-03-23, 12:02 PM

Who else is sponsoring Fusker?
DVD Dollars dvddollars.com

cd34 · 2005-03-23, 01:10 PM

Sent to ami@dvddollars.com

a. Affiliate's Representations and Warranties. You represent and warrant that (i) you have full power and authority to enter into this Agreement; (ii) entering into and performance of this Agreement by you does not violate, conflict with, or result in a material default under any other contract or agreement to which you're a party, or by which you're bound; and (iii) the Affiliate Site shall not infringe, violate or misappropriate any copyright, trade secret, trademark, or other proprietary or intellectual property right of any third party or constitute libel, defamation, invasion of privacy or the violation of any right of publicity or any other right of any third party. SugarDVD is not responsible for the content of the Affiliate Site. SugarDVD's exclusive remedy for breach of the foregoing representations and warranties shall be your indemnification obligation set forth in Section 14(b) below.

Since Fusker gets traffic based on the theft and referral of copyrighted images hosted on other people's servers, this appears to be in direct violation of your Terms and Conditions.

http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?offset=30

http://www.sugardvd.com/?refaff=12995 (is the affiliate link to your program at the bottom of the page)

Join in the discussion if you would like to defend your position of maintaining this affiliate or announce this affiliate's termination.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=17808

urb · 2005-03-23, 01:35 PM

Nice email... thanks

Jim · 2005-03-23, 02:20 PM

Don't jump so quickly, guys.
I just spoke to a sponsor that is on the fusker site and guess what? Their ads were being served by adbrite. They had no idea their link was there.

urb · 2005-03-23, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Don't jump so quickly, guys.
I just spoke to a sponsor that is on the fusker site and guess what? Their ads were being served by adbrite. They had no idea their link was there.

Sorry Jim, I'll call off the dogs.

cd34 · 2005-03-23, 02:56 PM

If you look at the way the site is laid out, I believe they have a direct relation with dvddollars.com as the adbright links are not served (it says the site is inactive)

Jim · 2005-03-23, 03:00 PM

No, no...I am just saying, some sponsors there, don't know they are there.

cd34 · 2005-03-23, 03:01 PM

although, they may actually be quite intertwined with dvddollars since their referral link does change using subdomains and different spellings.

urb · 2005-03-23, 03:11 PM

The Google cached version shows an affiliate link of /?refaff=12995
As Chris just pointed out, hitting refresh on the current version brings up variations of the domain.

Contacted ami via Netpond and the reaction was one of shock.

Useless · 2005-03-23, 03:53 PM

They may have pulled themselves from fusker.lewww, but there are plenty of other sites they are still advertising on that are indentical in practice, such as Ripper and Usefulidiot. Take a gander at this page: http://dir.avnads.com/index.cgi?a=86

LadyB · 2005-03-23, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

They may have pulled themselves from fusker.lewww, but there are plenty of other sites they are still advertising on that are indentical in practice, such as Ripper and Usefulidiot. Take a gander at this page: http://dir.avnads.com/index.cgi?a=86

After looking at that page I find it hard to believe that this was all an "accident" and "nobody knew" what types of sites alot of these are. : /

ronnie · 2005-03-23, 04:47 PM

Thats so funny the fusker traffic selling for 10-12 cents a click, oh ya gotta be some quality traffic there.

Another one I've been seeing in my logs is http://www.babehunt.org/fusker/index.php DONT GO THERE, as norton went off on me. But again, all kinds of adbrite ads on the page. Also ass traffic and give me pink ads. Saw some payserve galleries listed. Just wanted the powers to be know, yet another site.

ronnie

ami · 2005-03-24, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urb

The Google cached version shows an affiliate link of /?refaff=12995
As Chris just pointed out, hitting refresh on the current version brings up variations of the domain.

Contacted ami via Netpond and the reaction was one of shock.

Hi all! Certaintly wish that my first post on this board was...well...not having to deal with shady Affiliates, but I do GREATLY appreciate Urb and cb34 giving me a head's up.

HOWEVER...thanks to your vigilance, and because of hot linking, as of today we will no longer make payments on any
traffic sent to our site from http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?offset=30.

SugarDVD and all affiliated sites, have no interest in maintaining/developing relationships with Affiliates/Web"masters" who steal from the very people who are the heart of our Affiliate Program.

I am relatively new to the organization, and was hired as Affiliate Manager specifically to make sure that all of our Affiliates interests were being served, and that they were taken care of. I'll be looking at Affiliate sign-ups in a whole new way going forward.

Thanks Again...and um...hello board

Jel · 2005-03-25, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ami

HOWEVER...thanks to your vigilance, and because of hot linking, as of today we will no longer make payments on any
traffic sent to our site from http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?offset=30.

Hi ami,
How about all the other pages that have sugar dvd on them?
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
and so on and so on.........

Useless · 2005-03-25, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfnmparty

and so on and so on.........

Shit, looks like you got yourself fuskered. Nice bannner.

RawAlex · 2005-03-25, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfnmparty

Hi ami,
How about all the other pages that have sugar dvd on them?
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
and so on and so on.........

I think that unlike adbrite, ami isn't in a position to make the banners disappear.

However, I would think it better if ami arranged with the program to first send those hits to a "account closed because he is a thief" page, with a "click here to continue on for DVDs" link.

Alex

ami · 2005-03-29, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I think that unlike adbrite, ami isn't in a position to make the banners disappear.

However, I would think it better if ami arranged with the program to first send those hits to a "account closed because he is a thief" page, with a "click here to continue on for DVDs" link.

Alex

yeah...unfortunately, i'm not in a position to make the banners/links disappear. we've asked the Affiliate several times to remove the link...he has not as of yet. that link should be blocked w/in the next 48 hours. blech.....grossgrossgross.

and again...if anyone EVER sees any sites like this using SugarDVD/DVDDollars as a sponsor...holla at a biaaaatch...i'll be more than happy to hurt 'em

noooze · 2005-03-23, 08:10 PM

i hate fusker and all asian sites
I had a typo and resulted in a syntax error in my httaccess... guess what
they just burned like 500-800 $ in banwith and i'm stuck with that f**** bill.
arrghhh i hate 'em. after i discovered it my kb usage has dropped 50 % or more

let em hang i say

RawAlex · 2005-03-24, 11:07 AM

Pud, you might want to get your minions to actually spend a moment working on this situations.

http://www.fusker.com/

adbrite all over the front page. Didn't you guys look part the end's of your noses?

Alex

RawAlex · 2005-03-24, 11:26 AM

I recommend highly that adbrite take a few moments to run a grep on their serverlogs and look for refers from fusker. it isn't enough to just take down the single site that was named. A proactive approach to stopping bandwidth theft and copyright infringement is an important part of an honest and upfront business.

Email sent to pud and Aly again, there is a list of sites on the front of fusker, all which appear to use adbrite. it would appear that adbrite is the default advertising system installed when a new version of fusker is sold ($100 per copy, and you have to keep the ads on the page!).

I am starting to wonder if there is a more clear partnership arrangement here.

Alex

RawAlex · 2005-03-24, 06:59 PM

Ami, go to see you around, and congrats on taking the most important step: Stop paying thieves. That goes a long way to solving the issue.

I would highly recommend to all programs out there to take a few moments and have someone grep your referal logs for the last 24 hours and look for terms like "fusker" and fukster" and other similar things. You don't want to accidentally be providing payouts and financial support to people who's only goal is to steal bandwidth and violate copyright in a major manner.

I think I am going to start a list of domains with fusker on it, so that programs can move to get rid of these losers once and for all.

Alex

2005-03-23, 10:53 AM	#2
Verbal Verbal prefers 56K Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 563	Thanks Aly for your efforts. We all appreciate it. The best way to attack the Fusker problem I think, is at the partner/sponsor/host level. Make their partners aware of the situation and if they still do nothing, expose them on the boards. __________________ Verbal

2005-03-23, 11:31 AM	#3
Agent You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 631	Pud, now I know why that name is familiar...I used to read FuckedCompany for shits and giggles once in a while. What's his history in the adult biz? I haven't been following his work since the occasional FuckedCompany visit. __________________ Brihana.com

2005-03-23, 11:55 AM	#4
Ann Omness If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 308	I'm just glad to see that fusker was removed from the adbrite system. I spend quite a bit of money with adbrite and it bothered me that a site like fusker was one of the higher-traffic sites in their listings. I run a popular blog toplist and I always delete any blogs I find using fuskered content, or that contain a link to fusker. I am amazed and gratified that AVN was so responsive to this issue when it was brought to their attention. Thanks, Aly! __________________ Blue Wave Adult Links www.bluewavelinks.com/

2005-03-23, 12:02 PM	#5
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Who else is sponsoring Fusker? DVD Dollars dvddollars.com __________________

2005-03-23, 01:10 PM	#6
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	Sent to ami@dvddollars.com a. Affiliate's Representations and Warranties. You represent and warrant that (i) you have full power and authority to enter into this Agreement; (ii) entering into and performance of this Agreement by you does not violate, conflict with, or result in a material default under any other contract or agreement to which you're a party, or by which you're bound; and (iii) the Affiliate Site shall not infringe, violate or misappropriate any copyright, trade secret, trademark, or other proprietary or intellectual property right of any third party or constitute libel, defamation, invasion of privacy or the violation of any right of publicity or any other right of any third party. SugarDVD is not responsible for the content of the Affiliate Site. SugarDVD's exclusive remedy for breach of the foregoing representations and warranties shall be your indemnification obligation set forth in Section 14(b) below. Since Fusker gets traffic based on the theft and referral of copyrighted images hosted on other people's servers, this appears to be in direct violation of your Terms and Conditions. http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?offset=30 http://www.sugardvd.com/?refaff=12995 (is the affiliate link to your program at the bottom of the page) Join in the discussion if you would like to defend your position of maintaining this affiliate or announce this affiliate's termination. http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=17808 __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-03-23, 09:20 AM	#1
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Most amusing yet: Pudster sent our his "fuckedcompany" newsletter today, finally letting on to what everyone has already figured out: he "went hollywood", moved to the west coast, and set up adbrite with a pile of VC money. I truly suspect his VC people would be really pleased to see how this is all going. Hopefully this doesn't damage his bottom line too much. Alex

2005-03-23, 01:35 PM	#7
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Nice email... thanks __________________

2005-03-23, 02:20 PM	#8
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Don't jump so quickly, guys. I just spoke to a sponsor that is on the fusker site and guess what? Their ads were being served by adbrite. They had no idea their link was there.

2005-03-23, 02:56 PM	#10
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	If you look at the way the site is laid out, I believe they have a direct relation with dvddollars.com as the adbright links are not served (it says the site is inactive) __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-03-23, 03:00 PM	#11
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	No, no...I am just saying, some sponsors there, don't know they are there.

2005-03-23, 03:01 PM	#12
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	although, they may actually be quite intertwined with dvddollars since their referral link does change using subdomains and different spellings. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-03-23, 03:11 PM	#13
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	The Google cached version shows an affiliate link of /?refaff=12995 As Chris just pointed out, hitting refresh on the current version brings up variations of the domain. Contacted ami via Netpond and the reaction was one of shock. __________________

2005-03-23, 03:53 PM	#14
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	They may have pulled themselves from fusker.lewww, but there are plenty of other sites they are still advertising on that are indentical in practice, such as Ripper and Usefulidiot. Take a gander at this page: http://dir.avnads.com/index.cgi?a=86 __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-03-23, 04:47 PM	#16
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Thats so funny the fusker traffic selling for 10-12 cents a click, oh ya gotta be some quality traffic there. Another one I've been seeing in my logs is http://www.babehunt.org/fusker/index.php DONT GO THERE, as norton went off on me. But again, all kinds of adbrite ads on the page. Also ass traffic and give me pink ads. Saw some payserve galleries listed. Just wanted the powers to be know, yet another site. ronnie

2005-03-23, 08:10 PM	#22
noooze Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: aarhus - denmark Posts: 155	i hate fusker and all asian sites I had a typo and resulted in a syntax error in my httaccess... guess what they just burned like 500-800 $ in banwith and i'm stuck with that f**** bill. arrghhh i hate 'em. after i discovered it my kb usage has dropped 50 % or more let em hang i say __________________ The godess of fortune have never smiled at me - but she has often had a good laugh

2005-03-24, 11:07 AM	#23
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Pud, you might want to get your minions to actually spend a moment working on this situations. http://www.fusker.com/ adbrite all over the front page. Didn't you guys look part the end's of your noses? Alex

2005-03-24, 11:26 AM	#24
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I recommend highly that adbrite take a few moments to run a grep on their serverlogs and look for refers from fusker. it isn't enough to just take down the single site that was named. A proactive approach to stopping bandwidth theft and copyright infringement is an important part of an honest and upfront business. Email sent to pud and Aly again, there is a list of sites on the front of fusker, all which appear to use adbrite. it would appear that adbrite is the default advertising system installed when a new version of fusker is sold ($100 per copy, and you have to keep the ads on the page!). I am starting to wonder if there is a more clear partnership arrangement here. Alex

2005-03-24, 06:59 PM	#25
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Ami, go to see you around, and congrats on taking the most important step: Stop paying thieves. That goes a long way to solving the issue. I would highly recommend to all programs out there to take a few moments and have someone grep your referal logs for the last 24 hours and look for terms like "fusker" and fukster" and other similar things. You don't want to accidentally be providing payouts and financial support to people who's only goal is to steal bandwidth and violate copyright in a major manner. I think I am going to start a list of domains with fusker on it, so that programs can move to get rid of these losers once and for all. Alex