Is reality dead?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Jim

No, I am talking about a possible swing club where people sign releases saying they may or maynot be on camera for security purposes

In a swinger's joint, I'd be damned if I'm going to pay a cover charge to get in AND let them film me screwing someone's wife. If they're going to film it, I'd want to be paid. My wife would want twice as much.

Average everyday swingers are typically very discrete about their proclivities. Filming would be out of the question.

[DonPaul]

Reality sites still does good for us Fex BoneMyWife.com maybe not reality exactly like RedShoe talked about, but it converts very well

[Jim]

Amateur porn is still staged. You need people that really are just living and having sex without a camera in their faces.

[Lenny]

This is a good discussion.
I've been debating whether to do "reality" with my next paysite. I'm almost wondering if it's worth it.

If I do a "reality" site then I limit my model selection to only those who speak fluent english, even though there are alot of great models in certain niches that don't speak english.
Also I'm limited to using basically one production crew to keep the scenes consistent.

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to just make a niche site (MILF for instance) and just have multiple high quality photosets and videos of each model and skip the pretense of the "pick up" and "storyline"

[tickler]

Originally Posted by Lenny

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to just make a niche site (MILF for instance) and just have multiple high quality photosets and videos of each model and skip the pretense of the "pick up" and "storyline"

I would suggest the niche site, mainly because it is easier to promote. A good site with the right content will always sell well.

But, make sure that you research what the surfers are actually looking for within that niche. Too often a sponsor just throws a few splashy pages together and slaps a niche title on it.

[RawAlex]

Jim, I have been part of a project that attempted to get "real amateur swinger" videos, and honestly, it sucked. The "reality" of the deal is pretty simple: Most swingers are not as attractive as they think, they are not as good in bed as they think, and they are boring to watch fuck unless you are there in person.

Often what is exciting when you are right there loses something when you can click pause and see how bad everyone really looks.

Many swingers will appear on video, but they want to wear masks, be hidden, disguised, whatever. It makes for some extremely cheesy video.

Meanwhile, back to the reality world:

I think that pretty much all niches of this business have a fast run up followed by a long and protracted run out to nothing. reality, MILF, hidden cam, pickups... and many other niches have lit up the web for a while only to fade back to the background like many other types of porn.

I personallly feel that the future lies somewhere around IPTV, and I am starting to re-orient everything I do towards an all video distribution future.

Alex

[Sinistress]

I like the idea of a reality based reality niche... (that sounds so strange)

When it comes to whether or not I get turned on by most of the porn out there these days, the answer is more often than not no. Very little of it has to do with what the person looks like and most of it has to do with the attitude that is captured by them on film.

A webmaster that I know from another board (Not sure if her & her husband come here or not) posted pics of a party they hosted a while back, a swinger party I guess it was, with a mix of people who were regular recurring customers, and some I guess were people featured on their site? (I might have that last bit wrong, not sure) ...anyways, the people featured in the images were far from glamour models, but the pics were AWESOME because well, they were real. I guess the term "real" isn't a good term to use anymore, technically its not as if some porn is more "real" than other porn in the sense that everybody's getting fucked sooner or later... I'll go with the term "natural" -- The pictures featured a more 'natural' sex.

Maybe that's the new niche, "Natural porn" that truly features your everyday people who are comfortable enough to let themselves be filmed while partaking in the perfectly natural act of mating. It makes a world of difference (to me at least) when the individuals featured are totally into each other and genuinely enjoying what they're doing.

[Ms Naughty]

Maybe that's the new niche, "Natural porn" that truly features your everyday people who are comfortable enough to let themselves be filmed while partaking in the perfectly natural act of mating.

People like Tony Comstock (who made "Marie and Jack: A Hardcore Love Story") and all the people making "alternaporn" are already on this path. I can't wait for mainstream porn to embrace the concept of more "natural" sex scenes

[alvarez]

reallity is great niche .. you only need good traffic

[Kenny B!]

UW that was great, but no one will pat $30 a month to see a guy strike out, they already get that for free.

The reality sites coming out these days are getting rediculous ... it's not believable and that's why many sponsors are going to personality based sites. The success of BangBus and the like was because surfers actually think (or thought) it was real, personality based sites offer that sence of attainability and that's why we see so many coming out now.