We are with new LL for posters again

[Greenguy]

This entire thing is based on the fact that Russian webmasters brought the word "Russian" into this conversation & they obviously have a chip on their shoulders against non-Russian webmasters.

Re-read the 1st part of the thread & see who was the 1st person to type in the word "Russian"

Here is is in case you missed it:

Originally Posted by Yahook

This is your advantage But I will not agree with you that russian speaking webmasters can't do good projects, I know many examples

So any Russian webmaster that has a fucking problem, blame Yahook or go look in the mirror - you brought your country into this discussion.

I just want to be able to read my board & not scratch my head when these cookie cutter sites & announcements come around...and that's gonna end very shortly.

[ClickBuster]

You called me a chater, a stupid and a child... Wow! You don't even know me You know shit about me and again you dare to say who I'm, what I do, etc. How lame is that? I don't know, nor care, how old are you and what did. What I know is that I've read many many of your posts and what I think is that...

[Greenguy]

Something just popped into my head.

Not all Free Hosts are bad, but a majority of Link List owners have them all banned.

Not all counters are bad, but a majority of Link List owners have them all banned.

Not all auto submitters are bad, but a majority of Link Lists have them banned.

Anyone see a trend here?

[ClickBuster]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Something just popped into my head.

Not all Free Hosts are bad, but a majority of Link List owners have them all banned.

Not all counters are bad, but a majority of Link List owners have them all banned.

Not all auto submitters are bad, but a majority of Link Lists have them banned.

Anyone see a trend here?

I know what you're talking about and that every site owner has the right to do whatever he likes. Once I was pissed at Cleo for not accepting one of my free sites and just then I realised what she was doing and that she was right. I said to myself "what if it was my business", so yeah, the right thing to do in this case is just shut up and move on, I agree.

The main issue here's that people are accusing a whole nation, something that I myself have to deal with on a daily basis, cause I'm living in a country from the East European block. Maybe when we get in the EU, if ever, that will change. But fuck, I didn't choose where to be born and hell I don't like people judging me by that.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

The main issue here's that people are accusing a whole nation

Don't try to catch black cat in the dark room, especially if it isn't in there...

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

Once I was pissed at Cleo for not accepting one of my free sites and just then I realised what she was doing and that she was right.

Hmmm…

I did just have a Russian doctor do tendon surgery on my hand. Probably not a good example since the surgery was not successful and he refused to operate again since my insurance doesn't want to pay him as much as he feels he should get.

I've dated two Russians. Probably also not very good examples.

I've closed my submits to the public due to all the cheating fucks. Not all of them have been Russian but…

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

...the main issue here's that people are accusing a whole nation, something that I myself have to deal with on a daily basis, cause I'm living in a country from the East European block. Maybe when we get in the EU, if ever, that will change. But fuck, I didn't choose where to be born and hell I don't like people judging me by that.

Is Bulgaria in Russia? I'm serious, cause I have no idea.

And I have no problem with you at all - you've been helpful to me on a couple of times & I thank you for that

I honestly had no idea Yahook or anyone else was Russian prior to this thread - I don't review as much as I used to & rarely look at whois info or IP's or anything like that.

That being said, it seems I'm not exactly liked by a majority of Russian webmasters & to be honest, I really don't give a fuck as they have no effect on my bottom line what-so-ever.

[SI]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Is Bulgaria in Russia? I'm serious, cause I have no idea.

http://maps.google.com/

Useful tool

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by SI

http://maps.google.com/

Useful tool

I have to admit, most of what I know about Russia comes from watching hockey

[Greenguy]

Oh - I don't hate all Russians - that Ovechkin kid is pretty fucking good.

[ClickBuster]

Sorry mate, that's what I get from this thread. Was it bad that I tried to explain my opinion?

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

Sorry mate, that's what I get from this thread. Was it bad that I tried to explain my opinion?

Not bad. But lets begin from begining.

Thread was opened by Yahook (russian), who was the first person who said "russians" and was caught immediately as a cheater.

If you were me (I mean if you were the newest version of babel fish) and could understand what these people say about english-speaking AWMs, "kur" would be your the only and the last word.

[RawAlex]

Ahh... the thread that won't die.

Not all russians are cheaters. Not all people found guilty of murder are in fact murderers. Everyone gets a speeding ticket they don't deserve.

Link site owners for the most part don't want to spend all the time required to sort out "good from shit". We need to spend our time wisely to make sure that we give our surfers a quality product that they will come back to see regularly, and tell their friends about our lists.

They won't have a very good opinion of us if they end up with a toolbar, a vrius, or a back door on their system because of my listings.

They won't be happy if they go to a free site, click a thumb, and get 32 consoles.

They won't be happy if every other listing on my site turns into a redirect 2 days later.

They won't be happy if I don't give them what I promise. In order to do that, I have to list sites from reputable programs and reliable webmasters. I have to choose who is reliable and who is not. I can't spend all day to find 50 good sites. I need to be able to review them and get on with the other work I have to do.

So I block bots, I block free hosts, I block bartered hosts, and yes, I block most submits from certain countries to avoid issues.

What pisses me off (and causes me to be even more likely to block shit) is when these same webmasters that get their sites declined turn aorund and try to hide their shit in some manner and try to sneak onto my lists again to steal traffic.

Fuck you, I don't have time for you.

Sadly, for some decent and honest webmasters, you get fucked over because you are surrounded by dishonest, cheating assholes and often close to or near CP and credit card scams. I can't even take the chance to find out if you are honest, I can't open the door even a crack without having to deal with the 40 pounds of shit that will come with it.

Yahook, you and your group of "friends" prove without a doubt that you have no clue of the difference between right and wrong, just the difference between "caught" and "getting away with it". Anyone even getting close to what you are working on I have to assume has the same approach, and as a result, I react the same way.

What can I say? I don't have all day to find the one piece of gold in an acre of shit.

Alex

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

They won't be happy if I don't give them what I promise.

Here is the gap. Liberal Values. They just don't know what does it mean. You think about your surfers, they think about surfer's money.

[ClickBuster]

Actually, saying you can't do anything about that is not very true. If you cared about this, you would have redirected all submitters coming from banned hosts/countries to a page saying that they require a "special" account. That way they can get here, show samples and eventually get approval. That's the way all of us get accounts when required with reviews. After this you can ban the sucker and all of his sites if he's a cheater. You have problems with proxies? I can hook everyone of you with script that collects high anonymity proxies from free servers and shit. I can also give you a fine PHP func that will tell you if the surfer's using a transparent proxy. This is so fucking easy. The whole system can be done in a few days. Although, nobody cares - it's your call anyway and I have no problem with that, but please, don't say there isn't anything to do.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

Actually, saying you can't do anything about that is not very true. If you cared about this, you would have redirected all submitters coming from banned hosts/countries to a page saying that they require a "special" account. That way they can get here, show samples and eventually get approval. That's the way all of us get accounts when required with reviews. After this you can ban the sucker and all of his sites if he's a cheater. You have problems with proxies? I can hook everyone of you with script that collects high anonymity proxies from free servers and shit. I can also give you a fine PHP func that will tell you if the surfer's using a transparent proxy. This is so fucking easy. The whole system can be done in a few days. Although, nobody cares - it's your call anyway and I have no problem with that, but please, don't say there isn't anything to do.

Yes, this is EXACTLY why I have moved to partner accounts. I no longer want to have to just "hope" that good people submit to me, but rather that I have a list of good people that I know will submit good sites to me. Partner accounts solve the issue for everyone involved.

As I said, I am tired of wading through an acre of shit to find a small sliver of gold. I am charging a little for my time, and I will weed out the good from the bad soon enough. I suspect my surfers will be happy, and increases in bookmarks and such will continue.

Alex

[Yahook]

Jim, this is your new rule. I've removed my avatar. And I will upload new one later.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Yahook

Jim, this is your new rule. I've removed my avatar. And I will upload new one later.

Thank You
Your sig file goes to a page that has the link, "Back to Adult Webmaster Message Board". Someone that does not know that is the name of your board would think they were going back to the Adult Webmaster Board they had just left. But, clicking on that link, shows me that is not happening.

[ClickBuster]

ahahah.. I asked you a few questions and you told me to fuck off? What does that make you - a lame ass idiot that don't know what to say and just starts bullshiting and trying to make a big deal out of himself. I'm sure your life is miserable enough, so anyway...

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

ahahah.. I asked you a few questions and you told me to fuck off? What does that make you - a lame ass idiot that don't know what to say and just starts bullshiting and trying to make a big deal out of himself. I'm sure your life is miserable enough, so anyway...

Look you fool I posted to Yahook and you butted your lame ass big nose where it doesn't belong. I don't have to answer anything from fools.

Go back to playing with your dolls and making your wee wee grow.

[ClickBuster]

Bla bla bla... bla bla bla... do you have anything else to say instead of your meaningless crap? You can't attack somebody and expect to get away with it. And guess what, I don't care if you're attacking me or somebody else. Mentioning the fact that you have no reason to do it. Is that your board? I don't think so. In the end, you didn't answer my question about the sig, domains, etc. I wonder how a complete fuckup like you survived long enough to make over 6k posts.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

Bla bla bla... bla bla bla... do you have anything else to say instead of your meaningless crap? You can't attack somebody and expect to get away with it. And guess what, I don't care if you're attacking me or somebody else. Mentioning the fact that you have no reason to do it. Is that your board? I don't think so. In the end, you didn't answer my question about the sig, domains, etc. I wonder how a complete fuckup like you survived long enough to make over 6k posts.

[Jim]

Promoting a webmaster resource on another webmaster resource is not a new rule. It is a rule that has been unsaid and said on many boards. But, any legitimate resource site owner would see it as bad form.

[ClickBuster]

another prove that you don't have anything to say and that you're a complete idiot...

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

another prove that you don't have anything to say and that you're a complete idiot...