An Open Thread To AVN & Internext...

[Greenguy]

The Venetian has to love having us, since if you booked thru Rose, you not getting that room comped at all, regardless of how much you gamble.

In 2004 I was at The Venetian for 7 days (6 nights) and I think I paid for 2 of them (since I am a degenerate gambler)

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

The Venetian has to love having us, since if you booked thru Rose, you not getting that room comped at all, regardless of how much you gamble.

In 2004 I was at The Venetian for 7 days (6 nights) and I think I paid for 2 of them (since I am a degenerate gambler)

you would think with all the buisness they get from us at one time a discount would be in order

I am sure there is a huge discount but avn and rose tours pocket it

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Tommy

you would think with all the buisness they get from us at one time a discount would be in order

I am sure there is a huge discount but avn and rose tours pocket it

I have to agree otherwise we would see significantly lower prices by the hotels.

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Tommy

you would think with all the buisness they get from us at one time a discount would be in order

I am sure there is a huge discount but avn and rose tours pocket it

I doubt it given that CES alone supports the largest convention in Vegas each year. Expanding the city's population by somewhere between 200 - 250K each year. The Venitian would be booked whether AVN/Internext was there or not. They have absolutely no incentive to offer big discounts.

[walrus]

Originally Posted by walrus

I doubt it given that CES alone supports the largest convention in Vegas each year. Expanding the city's population by somewhere between 200 - 250K each year. The Venitian would be booked whether AVN/Internext was there or not. They have absolutely no incentive to offer big discounts.

Correction it was only around 150k in attendance last year for CES

[Linkster]

So now an example of why the prices are higher - I go to the mailbox yesterday and there is a shiny black envelope - legal sized - with a poster from Internext in it - with a caption at the bottom - make sure to register early by Dec 2
Why waste the money we are giving for the passes to send out advertisements to drum up business - to people that have already registered???? And send it so that it arrives after the registration cutoff??? What a waste and just another example of the mis-management of the whole show

[walrus]

I can't fathom the $$$ being talked about here. As a comparison, I go to a trade show in Vegas every April, NAB, the #3 largest show of the year. Last year, my cost less money spent on drinking, whoring, and gambling...$1000. Thats for 4 nights of the show, networking on the exhibit floor, flight, etc. Now I didn't stay on the strip but the hotel I stayed in, the only thing between it and the convention center was a parking lot.

[RawAlex]

Walrus, you hit the nail on the head. Done on almost any other week of the year (except pure holidays) there would be enough $50 hotel rooms to go aorund for everyone, enough cheap flights, and only normal size lines for stuff.

Vegas is a really nice place in the spring and fall (after the heat dies down).

Imagine being able to go to 2 or 3 shows for the price of one.

I am starting to see why people do the speciality shows and the regional events rather than doing the AVN shows...

Alex

[emmanuelle]

Goddammit

I just got 2 of those postcards in my mailbox. I really don't need the mailman knowing what I am involved in.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Goddammit

I just got 2 of those postcards in my mailbox. I really don't need the mailman knowing what I am involved in.

So let me get this straight... first you are complaining not to get the magazines and now you are complaining that you got a plain black envelope...

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by Far-L

So let me get this straight... first you are complaining not to get the magazines and now you are complaining that you got a plain black envelope...

er... please go and re read my post

I received 2 large postcards, not envelopes, with adult themed text all over them. I'm sure my postal carrier got a giggle out of it. Discretion is the issue here and a plain black envelope would have been lovely.

Since they can manage to find me to send their useless advertisements; I do wonder why they cannot locate me when it comes time to the magazine.

[Linkster]

Far-L - I have no idea when it was mailed - I would assume some time in the last week based on when I normally get checks from the same location (Las Vegas)
The point was that they are wasting money by sending out something trying to get me to come to Internext - when I already signed up 3 months ago.

Note I did not say it was from AVN - I said it was from Internext - also known as Internext Show Management

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Far-L - I have no idea when it was mailed - I would assume some time in the last week based on when I normally get checks from the same location (Las Vegas)
The point was that they are wasting money by sending out something trying to get me to come to Internext - when I already signed up 3 months ago.

Note I did not say it was from AVN - I said it was from Internext - also known as Internext Show Management

Since we both received the same thing on the same day I doubt there was any postal screwup.

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

er... please go and re read my post

I received 2 large postcards, not envelopes, with adult themed text all over them. I'm sure my postal carrier got a giggle out of it. Discretion is the issue here and a plain black envelope would have been lovely.

Since they can manage to find me to send their useless advertisements; I do wonder why they cannot locate me when it comes time to the magazine.

I know you was not born, but did you ever see the movie "The Postman Always Rings Twice"?

[Jim]

I try to never spread rumors but, I heard the words, "15% kickback" being floated around.

[Greenguy]

15% kickback from what?

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

15% kickback from what?

I don't spread rumors. But the words Travel, Hotel and Amenities were also mentioned.

[RawAlex]

I received mine today. Postcard with adult words and such "the worlds largest adult digital media expo". Mailed from San Fran.

Not discrete, not subtle, and certainly not to the liking of everyone involved.

Just as importantly, considering this show is running the same time as CES, sending out "sign up now" cards less than 30 days before an event in a town where hotels are effectively sold out is a major league waste of money.

Jim: Kickbacks... basically, if the show makes the number of rooms nights they require (I am suspecting close to 1000 room nights average for a 5 or 7 day period) they will get an amount equal to the travel agent commission, or other financial or non-financial spiffs for hitting the goal. It can also be a reduction in the cost of the show floor space, or not having to pay an surcharge for failing to make the number. In the overall scheme of things, it isn't the biggest number in the game, but it is one of many ways that a very large show like this can pad the numbers. They probably wasted most of that spiff money mailing out these cards.

Alex

[Surfn]

I received the postcard in early November. I'm talking about the legal size envelope with the fold up.

[Far-L]

Has anyone here complained to someone at Internext and or AVN?

The postcard issue is easily correctable and would have zero to do with whether or not anyone is profiting on it.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Has anyone here complained to someone at Internext and or AVN?

The postcard issue is easily correctable and would have zero to do with whether or not anyone is profiting on it.

I know I have... on the phone, in email and in person.

And Ive complained about them selling my personal information to Girls Gone Wild as well for marketing.

They havent given a fuck in the past.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Has anyone here complained to someone at Internext and or AVN?

The postcard issue is easily correctable and would have zero to do with whether or not anyone is profiting on it.

Yes I did as I stated in this other thread you were involved in - first post of the thread - and then I emailed and there was no answer ever about it

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...light=postcard

[Useless]

I guess those of us who have never been and most likely never will attend an internext don't have to worry about indiscreet mailings. Hell, if they won't send me the magazine I subscribed to months and months ago, they certainly aren't going to send me any invitations. They do manage to send quite few daily emails that are now routed directly to my junkbox.

[docholly]

I got mine yesterday tho i doubt if my postman even gave it a 2nd thought considering the amount of Useless mail i get already. Not in an envelope. and no cancelled stamped date..

I'm sure that wouldn't be the case of someone who would be attending from oh say Alabama or Iowa or some other non - porn friendly state which is about OH 49 others.

and since this is from a supposedily tech savvy company, you'd think they could run a query in the database and pull out those who'd already signed up.

oh but that's just me.

[DangerDave]

I still want to know whay AVN email dont have REMOVE links!

<insert broken record sound here>

DD