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Old 2005-12-31, 02:59 PM   #1
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I would ALWAYS place a banner over the title on a free site. What does the title of the free site earn you? And the top spot on index is far and away the #1 clicked spot.

No offense I hope, but really the title of the free site, IMHO, belongs below the top ad, and doesnt need to be repeated anywhere else on the free site. It doesnt make you any money.

With the new 2257 stuff, I'm hoping to crank out a few free sites of my own and post for some critical reviews, but theres always gonna be a top banner
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Old 2005-12-31, 03:24 PM   #2
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I would ALWAYS place a banner over the title on a free site. What does the title of the free site earn you? And the top spot on index is far and away the #1 clicked spot.
Most paysite tours suck on preselling. You send a surfer to a tour without building something up, the conversions are going to suck. Most sales come off the index because 100% of LL traffic and a large percentage of SE traffic land on the index first and trickle down from there to the gallery pages. The highest number of uniques on the index of course means highest no. of clickthrus from there - that doesn't mean those clicks are going to be productive, especially it comes from a boring 468x60 banner you slap on top of the page.

What does the title of a free site earn me? With H1/h2, it earns me traffic from Google and Yahoo, which converts at 1:50 instead of 1:200.

The bottom line: Using a banner above the title is personal preference; I personally think it's a newb tactic similar to linking to a thumb and forcing clickthrus that generates no sales. Besides, it looks like shit.
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Old 2005-12-31, 06:30 PM   #3
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What does the title of a free site earn me? With H1/h2, it earns me traffic from Google and Yahoo, which converts at 1:50 instead of 1:200.

The bottom line: Using a banner above the title is personal preference; I personally think it's a newb tactic similar to linking to a thumb and forcing clickthrus that generates no sales. Besides, it looks like shit.
You can still get the benefit of a headline tag without it being the first thing in the html, or use css so it *is* the first thing in html, but appearing below the primary, most productive ad.

It only looks like shit if the design is shit A banner alone is usually a waste since it's not 1996 anymore thats for sure.. but a nice table style ad works.

I'm tending to go on and on and on as I edit this post, so instead of all my reasons, I'll just agree to disagree.
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Old 2006-01-01, 10:18 AM   #4
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It only looks like shit if the design is shit A banner alone is usually a waste since it's not 1996 anymore thats for sure.. but a nice table style ad works.
I'll agree with that
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Old 2005-12-31, 03:49 PM   #5
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well it looks like Zuzana has now made her way over here to spam her wares, what a big surprise! since the novelty has worn off on the pond and she continually gets her ass handed to her on a platter (and not only for spam either), she now thinks she can come over here and get away with it. Nice try Zuzana, this is so pathetic to say the least!
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Old 2006-01-01, 03:46 PM   #6
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I have no clue who BigBallsBilly is, and how surprising that jade would show up here..
I was simply making a thread to try and help some people here but as I see some already know it all ..
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Old 2006-01-01, 08:28 PM   #7
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...I was simply making a thread to try and help some people here but as I see some already know it all ..
You wanna re-read your 1st post? Here it is incase you forgot:
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What is your best one and why ?? I know what ones I have done that do very well. I'm interested to see some others
Please explain to me why the fuck you keep saying you're here to help people?
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Old 2006-01-01, 08:47 PM   #8
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Please explain to me why the fuck you keep saying you're here to help people?
It's an old political ploy. Keep saying the lie loud enough and long enough, the masses will begin to believe it.

Just one problem with that tactic, most of us here have been around the barn enough times that the bull shit meter is turned on permanently.
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Old 2006-01-01, 09:41 PM   #9
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It's an old political ploy. Keep saying the lie loud enough and long enough, the masses will begin to believe it.

Just one problem with that tactic, most of us here have been around the barn enough times that the bull shit meter is turned on permanently.

Well said! I tend to be naive, so it's good to see people take action in things like this.

hummmm... My second New Years resolution: Don't be fucking naive.

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You wanna re-read your 1st post? Here it is incase you forgot:

Please explain to me why the fuck you keep saying you're here to help people?
As I said I was offering to show ones that I had done that did well and why, and figured people would like some advise for galleries and better ctrs... and the entire thread got side tracked.
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Old 2006-01-02, 03:12 PM   #11
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I was simply making a thread to try and help some people here
All you've been doing is asking to see other people's gallery designs (title: "What is YOUR best converting gallery?"). A few words you posted that *might* count as "gallery designing tips" are these:

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very simple yet effective gallery, html text is the key
"effective gallery" ...This is like saying to build a tall building, make sure the building you build is tall.

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some times the pretty ones do not do well...
Any more ground-breaking insights?

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I will show my top 10 tonight for everyone
You never did...a nice move on establishing credibility.

If you want to help people so badly, then write a decent post about building galleries that convert and stop teasing people with questions and promises and in the end delivering absolutely nothing.
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Old 2006-01-02, 04:11 PM   #12
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ahhh the drama of the same people kills me .. you want stas here they are .. I have done 100's of galleries for rage, jaymancash and to many other to even get into with the same 4 people .. you all know who you are .. After being accused of spamming I didn't want to show anything else... I wanted to start a good thread and it looks like this has been vey entertaining and had some action ...

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/ragecas...by_gallery.jpg
http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/ragecas...s_by_model.jpg
http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/ragecas...ws_by_type.jpg

If I do a design and it does not convert I will redo it FREE ..and have yet to have a single client come back .. please show me how is bitching with my convertions ??
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Old 2006-01-01, 04:25 PM   #13
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A gallery i made for NPC (their cheater site) and it wind up on TheHun rotation thingo (damn can't remember the name) i'm still making sales here and there out of it
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Old 2006-01-01, 08:43 PM   #14
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I'm still struggling with the fact that she has "Free sites with insane conversions" on her whore button, yet she doesn't appear to have any examples of her OWN work.
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Old 2006-01-02, 12:52 AM   #15
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LOL, oh I love this so!
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Old 2006-01-02, 01:50 PM   #16
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No, you didn't.

But please feel free to quote yourself from that 1st post & prove me wrong.
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Old 2006-01-02, 02:00 PM   #17
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why is it surprising that I'm here Zuzilla? I've been member here for a while, infact Meat referred me to this board ...... oh look I know some people here too ..... Hi FHM, HF, FacialFreak .... it's funny how you're here trying to help people but looks like it's you that's learning the lesson! And why don't you show them all your NON-converting galleries while you're at it?? maybe you could offer them some input LOL

btw GG I still love the radio show with the butcher, that was classic, maybe you could do a similar one with Zuzilla LOL
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Old 2006-01-02, 02:34 PM   #18
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I love seeing scammers being to stupid to see the grave that they are digging for themselves.

Your Galleries are shit everybody is complaining that they dont convert, and thats why you get your behind kicked on every board, why dont you just stop you BS and get a day job cuzz thats what your future is going to be

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Old 2006-01-02, 04:16 PM   #19
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I take it you believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity?
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I take it you believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity?
hey geezer how's it going man? Guess she doesn't believe so, but then again she seems to think we all post at only one board. WRONGO!
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Old 2006-01-02, 04:34 PM   #21
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hey geezer how's it going man? Guess she doesn't believe so, but then again she seems to think we all post at only one board. WRONGO!
Yep, going good here Jade

Maybe Zuzana has to move onto other boards because of being sussed (caught out) on others.
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Old 2006-01-02, 04:40 PM   #22
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Yep, going good here Jade

Maybe Zuzana has to move onto other boards because of being sussed (caught out) on others.
oh probably LOL but maybe we should educate everyone over here on all of the stuff she does aside from spamming on boards ....... like oh joining boards with multiple user names, to come in and defend her when people are calling her out on her scams, lets see ... going through forum data bases and grabbing ICQ no's and spamming members to join another forum under her so she can win a laptop (which she did btw) ..... what else?? There are so many things I just can't seem to remember them all!
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Old 2006-01-02, 07:51 PM   #23
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been a while since I have been here, but i had to come read. |ggandj - sides they got some kewl smilies. perhaps Absolute would be a better alternative as he seems very nice.

course its a great board and time to check out some of these resources here
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Allow me to show my diplomatic side, if you will.

If I was still a moderator, I would have moved this thread to the spam forum the moment I saw it. Lucky you.

My personal opinion - Zuzana, you my dear are an ignorant cunt.
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Allow me to show my diplomatic side, if you will.

If I was still a moderator, I would have moved this thread to the spam forum the moment I saw it. Lucky you.

My personal opinion - Zuzana, you my dear are an ignorant cunt.
No, go on, what do you realy think of Zuzana
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