Question For The Guys: Why facials?

[Greenguy]

lorsha is what I like to call "a good egg"

[papagmp]

My new video editor (she insists her name isn't "Bitch") loves facials and one of my new girls swallows every drop just to keep it off her face - go figure.

Personally, I love surprise facials - but I'm a sick fucker. (hey - her mom was never offended - how the hell was I supposed to know she would be?)

I DO NOT like gangbang facials or fake cum - just looks gross and or stupid.

In my personal life, I like to cum inside my girl's pussy - while I'm pulling her hair and choking the fuck out of her.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by papagmp

My new video editor (she insists her name isn't "Bitch") loves facials and one of my new girls swallows every drop just to keep it off her face - go figure.

Personally, I love surprise facials - but I'm a sick fucker. (hey - her mom was never offended - how the hell was I supposed to know she would be?)

I DO NOT like gangbang facials or fake cum - just looks gross and or stupid.

In my personal life, I like to cum inside my girl's pussy - while I'm pulling her hair and choking the fuck out of her.

I count 7 things in this post that simultaneously disturb me & make me want to drive to Colorado

[LD]

I love seeing a pretty face get a cumshot. I don't know, it's like the girl is going beyond fucking or something. Like "I'm so damn horny I want cum everywhere...". Or something...

It's not about domination for me. I get tired of those scenes where the guy stands up with the girl on her knees It's actually more of a turn on for me if the girl dominates the whole suck and cum thing. "Be a good boy and I'll let you come in my mouth..." is more what I like, not the "get on your knees, whore..." type thing. It appears that most facial shots are of the latter type, so it leads me to believe maybe for many guys other than myself, the domination aspect is important.

[lorsha]

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

I love seeing a pretty face get a cumshot. I don't know, it's like the girl is going beyond fucking or something. Like "I'm so damn horny I want cum everywhere...". Or something...

It's not about domination for me. I get tired of those scenes where the guy stands up with the girl on her knees It's actually more of a turn on for me if the girl dominates the whole suck and cum thing. "Be a good boy and I'll let you come in my mouth..." is more what I like, not the "get on your knees, whore..." type thing. It appears that most facial shots are of the latter type, so it leads me to believe maybe for many guys other than myself, the domination aspect is important.

For guys I have swallowed for, it is most definetly the dominating aspect they enjoy. And honestly I have no problem playing that role. I enjoy being submissive and pleasing guys, so whatever turns them on is fine with me. Never in a physically abusive nature of course, but if they want to call me their bitch whore why I swallow ... whatever, hehe.

[stuveltje]

oh and one of my friends just told me a very dirty thing and i will hate her for that all of my life, she sais when a guy didnt shoot his cum for weeks...then its thick and mmmmmmmm how you name it....like it are little pieces (like the things got together...stu<---- is realy gonna puke now.......) well thats not what i wanna swallow or have an facial from, stu<-- now asking if she was giving a blowjob to a sick cow or so....oke 1% of my friends are sick perverts........Stu<---stomach is getting upset

[lorsha]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

oh and one of my friends just told me a very dirty thing and i will hate her for that all of my life, she sais when a guy didnt shoot his cum for weeks...then its thick and mmmmmmmm how you name it....like it are little pieces (like the things got together...stu<---- is realy gonna puke now.......) well thats not what i wanna swallow or have an facial from, stu<-- now asking if she was giving a blowjob to a sick cow or so....oke 1% of my friends are sick perverts........Stu<---stomach is getting upset

Your starting to gross me out now, and that is NOT an easy thing to do when it comes to cum ...

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by lorsha

Your starting to gross me out now, and that is NOT an easy thing to do when it comes to cum ...

oh and she said the color will be different of the sperm, a bit yellow....or creme colo and ...YUKKIEE, why the hell i cant find that damn barf smilie?...btw must feel like you get a bucket of glue on your face with an facial btw can be a new niche....sperm you can chew on

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

...if the cum hit the back of their thraoth they gonna puke...

The difference between mayonnaise and cum is that mayonnaise doesn't hit the back of your throat at 30 m.p.h.

Originally Posted by stuveltje

then its thick and mmmmmmmm how you name it....like it are little pieces (like the things got together)

You know your sex partner is fertile when you have to chew before you swallow....

[stuveltje]

oke stu<--- asking her friends again about swallowing, yeah i am easy, i just ask, some say they dont mind swallowing, but they swallow a certain way, if the cum hit the back of their thraoth they gonna puke, so they make sure its getting infront of their mouth, and it depent if its alot of seed, when to much, they wont swallow, if small amound they will (well the ones who will swallow cum) so 40% of my friends will swallow.....hell thats not much..oke, still my gildfriends are hot and sweet girls! hell i should use polls and ask my friends

[stuveltje]

oke but this info i got out of this thread (and of the info of my friends) some guys do like facials (or whatever cumshot) others wont, if a girl does them, they have to like it (which is an other thing with girls working for paysites, they do it for the money, you cant tell me different if they accept an facial while they dont like it), woman think its more the domination fact and guys think different, its not a domination thing............ so conclusion....hell guys are strange persons stu<-- checking back the news messages about a guy who was fucking the pavement, a guy who shooted his cum on bikes and a guy who liked to shoot his cum on stranges shoes...........guys are strange and just like to shoot their cum on whatever they prefer (and then saying woman are from mars....yeah right)

[Ms Naughty]

LOL Stu... I now have waaaaay too many cum-based images swirling around my head.

Guys - thanks for all your responses, this is really interesting. I think what Stu has said before is really interesting. A lot of women see a facial as a power-play/domination thing. Yes, there are some women who like it, but plenty of others who aren't so keen. Not surprising, given that a facial does not really involve female pleasure, beyond the psychological.

Guys may see it differently. Some do see it in terms of domination, others just see it as simply sexy, an acceptance of pure sex, perhaps.

I do find it interesting that a lot of people in porn say "but there HAS to be a money shot." Does there really? I think that is one of the differentiating ideas behind women's porn. What if a scene ended with a female orgasm and no male cumshot whatsoever? Would it be the end of the world?

LOL Now I've gotten on my soapbox. I'll promptly get off again.

[DedZed]

My girlfriend loves when I cum on her face. Sometimes after I do it she will hurry to look in the mirror and gets all excited when here face is coated really good. Knowing she likes its so much makes me love to do it.

For us it makes us feel dirty, just something we like to do. If she didn't desire it I wouldn't like it so much. But man it is hot knowing she craves it.

ded

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

I do find it interesting that a lot of people in porn say "but there HAS to be a money shot." Does there really? I think that is one of the differentiating ideas behind women's porn. What if a scene ended with a female orgasm and no male cumshot whatsoever? Would it be the end of the world?

LOL Now I've gotten on my soapbox. I'll promptly get off again.

ha now we talking! as a woman and then i will say what i like to see....no the cumshot isnt always needed, oh yep a cumshot is very horny but having pleasure as a woman from a guy then its not a must to see that cumshot, i think woman think realy different in this, yep you have the rought and the soft , who cares i can go for all, but as a woman i can get already in the mood by seeing a guy with great beautiful eyes , or wearing tight jeans.....Hm (yeah i am using my brains) what i wanna see in "for woman" sites, are not totally nude guys, and no cumshots, but just a guy who seduces a woman and get her hot by teasing and please her just like she wants....mmm now i am talking bullshit because alot of woman do want to see that cumshot and all....oh forget what i said but to answer you question...no i dont think a cumshot is needed just my opinion and my hubby think the same( well he thinks that way for woman porn, he said guys porn is different)

[stuveltje]

stu<--- asking their friends.....(yeah yeah) how many times, your guy gave you a great pussy lick and there was no penetration involved before or after you got an orgasme? So he was there only to pleasure you and didnt wanna come himself even he has a boner?....oke Stu<--- got all kind of %%$@@$% bad words thrown to her head....i told them i need to know (as long i dont use their names to post they will tell me).........now thats sad....0%, they just told me everytime any sex thing happens there has to be penetration and more, so i asked them what you girls want to see "for woman" Porn? mmmmm answer: more focus on the woman, not all woman need to get penetrated and see the cumshot or have a inside cumshot, they just wanna be special (see we woman are easy), all focus has to be on the pleasure of the woman, 2 different worlds, i do think that man need the cumshot, must be something in their genes, but not all woman need that.
Now give me more questions , so i can bug my friends

[Bill]

Now, if only we could reliably get women to buy porn. If I understood how to make anywhere near the same amount of sales to women as i can do to men, I'd jump into the womens market and set my wife up as a fulltime women's porn builder.

It's pretty clear (to me at least) that women are just as obsessed with sex as men are, but the brain and mind triggers seem to be somewhat different.

And, I suspect the triggers for womens excitement would be way more humbling and threatening to most men, as one senses that the triggers for men can be threatening to some women.

It's the old 90/10 thing.

What do your friends think about rough sex?

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Bill

Now, if only we could reliably get women to buy porn. If I understood how to make anywhere near the same amount of sales to women as i can do to men, I'd jump into the womens market and set my wife up as a fulltime women's porn builder.

It's pretty clear (to me at least) that women are just as obsessed with sex as men are, but the brain and mind triggers seem to be somewhat different.

And, I suspect the triggers for womens excitement would be way more humbling and threatening to most men, as one senses that the triggers for men can be threatening to some women.

It's the old 90/10 thing.

What do your friends think about rough sex?

give me some minutes i will ask

[stuveltje]

haaa now this is realy interesting......i just putted my friends in different groups:
the 20 to 30 year old group: rough sex, slapping, spitting hard fuck, whipes, deepthroath, domination, humiliation....all cool to them.
the 30 to 40 year old group: some like the rough sex, like hard fuck, domination, some bdsm.
But now a huge thing, well i think so........the group 20 to 30 years old, about 85% say they do it to please their guy, i have asked them, and if you dont like it? they still will do it........just to make their guy happy!
Now the group age 30 to 40......they will do some things, but if they dont like it, they wont do it and tell the guy, so they are willing to try things but they wont do all to please their guy just to make him happy, they want some satisfaction also and want to have fun having sex, now from the group age 30 to 40 are some who are realy long married, they say their sex has got more better now when older then the time they where 18 because they are in a long realationship and both sides know what they like and not like and are willing to try more things. What i am surprised with is the fact that still woman just do all to please their guy instead of thinking of the facted that they can have just fun too.......Stu<-- is gonna bug their friends with more questions but not today, its 12:28 after midnight here and i promised my k*ds to take them to the towns tomorrow for queensday, so i need to go to bed now! But i will get into this tomorrow eve again!

[Bill]

Well, my idea of rough sex is pretty vanilla - just physical strength and taking control and fucking hard and a little mean. Not asking, doing, taking the hard work of sex, deciding what to do, out of her hands.

Not hitting or whipping or such - slapping the ass and thighs is about as far as I like to go.

Spanking, but not to the point of crying or anything other than a red ass and a bit of tenderness.

Hand on throat, but without squeezing or breathplay.

Hair pulling and control, but not the the point of pulling hair out or real pain. If you grab right, you have a lot of control, but it feels nice for her.

Real bdsm people would consider me a wimp, as would any real sub, ha ha ha.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Bill

Well, my idea of rough sex is pretty vanilla - just physical strength and taking control and fucking hard and a little mean. Not asking, doing, taking the hard work of sex, deciding what to do, out of her hands.

Not hitting or whipping or such - slapping the ass and thighs is about as far as I like to go.

Spanking, but not to the point of crying or anything other than a red ass and a bit of tenderness.

Hand on throat, but without squeezing or breathplay.

Hair pulling and control, but not the the point of pulling hair out or real pain. If you grab right, you have a lot of control, but it feels nice for her.

Real bdsm people would consider me a wimp, as would any real sub, ha ha ha.

thats the same i how think of rough sex.no strange thinking here.

I can say i do have problems with some sites i review when i see a girl in deepthroath or half choking with a hand on their throath, even the scene is fake, some pics surely does show very rude to me, now lucly i dont see much of these pics, because i realy dont like it, but then i think of the facted the girls or woman they use in those pics are there for the money.......and yeah maybe some woman like to get humiliated like that, but its something i cant imaging myself.
Reminds me of a docu i saw about a sponsor (which name i wont mention here) about a girl realy crying before and aftewards when she did the scene, she didnt like it but did all for the money and also got bad words thrown at her head because she told them she didnt like to do that and yes she still did the scene, because she needed the fucking money.

[Ms Naughty]

Wow Stu... I think your story of the young women is rather disturbing. It's that kind of anecdotal evidence that gets feminists up in arms about porn... it's like the guys are copying what they see in porn and the girls are just going along with it.

I am personally uncomfortable with the whole rough sex thing - especially as it seems to always be the guy beating up the girl, there's never a level playing field. BDSM and power play I love, it's structured, it's sexy, but rough sex... I don't get it. And once again, I would think that that kind of sex would be a minority kind of fetish, but porn has pushed it into the mainstream.

All my personal opinion of course. I know there are women who enjoy it and if its safe sane and consensual, fine.

[Ms Naughty]

Well there you go Bill, I wouldn't have really thought of that as rough sex so perhaps I'm on a different page. My vision of it involves all the spitting, slapping, choking, verbal abuse, nasty stuff.

I guess it's just a matter of degree, in a way. Power play with the volume turned up to 11. Again, OK if it's consensual, not so good if it's just to please your partner or if you're not into it.

Tristan Taormino is bringing out an expert guide to rough sex which will be interesting to watch because it will be a female friendly movie.

[Simon]

I know this isn't really the board for discussions of non-consensual sex, but as someone who 'discovered' my interest in what people call rough and/or bdsm-style sex very early, I can tell you that for many men and women in the Lifestyle there is a shared belief best expressed by the phrase "consent is over-rated."

It's closely related to the concept that bondage doesn't really begin until you no longer wish to be bound. Because until then you're only bound. It's only when you want to be released, and aren't, that bondage actually begins.

For some, the idea of 'negotiating' in advance to be sure that nothing will happen to which they haven't already agreed, or the concept of using a 'safe word' to give them a measure of control is so very far from how they live their lives.

Note: I'm not talking about going around forcing people you don't know to do whatever you want them to. As much fun as that is, it's not really legal to do. However, there are people who live by the belief that "consent is given once," and that it's given to a person, not to some subset of activities.

Just wanted to offer a little measure of alternative viewpoint to the discussion of consent.


Note to Bill: That doesn't sound like a wimp to me. It sounds like you know what you like to do and you make sure that you do what you like. Wimps are those who, even if they know what they'd like to do, rarely manage to make things happen they way they 'wish' they would. They don't understand that first is the will, and all else follows.


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"Real Life is Unsafe, Insane, and Non-Consensual." -- The Book of Simon

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Simon

For some, the idea of 'negotiating' in advance to be sure that nothing will happen to which they haven't already agreed, or the concept of using a 'safe word' to give them a measure of control is so very far from how they live their lives.

Even in non-BDSM sex, I think people learn a lot about what drives them sexually, and what gives them pleasure, by going beyond what they believe to be their (and their partner's) comfort zone. I'm sure that most women wouldn't have even tried anal sex if their partner hadn't initiated it by doing what Patrice Oneil calls, "assholey things." Licking, fingering, etc. Some women end up begging for a cock in their ass while others threaten to cut your cock off with a rusty lawnmower blade if you go any further. There are women who enjoy being blindfolded, slapped and insulted during sex, yet they didn't know that they'd enjoy it until some guy slapped them, called them a slut and jizzed on their face, probably without asking. Humiliation and degradation can be powerfully erotic for certain people.

Also, if you derive any level of satisfaction or arousal from pleasuring your partner, you tend to do things that don't inherently please you. Oral sex doesn't physically stimulate the giver, but many people enjoy performing oral sex because they know that they are pleasuring the hell out of the receiver, assuming they know what they're doing.

I doubt any woman enjoys taking a facial cumshot for the pure enjoyment of needing to run to the bathroom and wash the cum out of their eyes before they start stinging. They do it because they want to pleasure their partner in whatever twisted manner which is most effective.

Whatever you do during sex only works if both partners walk/limp away without being hurt or pissed off. Of course, I also believe that we tend to have far too much puritanical guilt and regret over our perversions and deviations. But that's a whole other rant.

[LD]

Originally Posted by Simon

I know this isn't really the board for discussions of non-consensual sex, but as someone who 'discovered' my interest in what people call rough and/or bdsm-style sex very early, I can tell you that for many men and women in the Lifestyle there is a shared belief best expressed by the phrase "consent is over-rated."

It's closely related to the concept that bondage doesn't really begin until you no longer wish to be bound. Because until then you're only bound. It's only when you want to be released, and aren't, that bondage actually begins.

For some, the idea of 'negotiating' in advance to be sure that nothing will happen to which they haven't already agreed, or the concept of using a 'safe word' to give them a measure of control is so very far from how they live their lives.

Note: I'm not talking about going around forcing people you don't know to do whatever you want them to. As much fun as that is, it's not really legal to do. However, there are people who live by the belief that "consent is given once," and that it's given to a person, not to some subset of activities.

Just wanted to offer a little measure of alternative viewpoint to the discussion of consent.


Note to Bill: That doesn't sound like a wimp to me. It sounds like you know what you like to do and you make sure that you do what you like. Wimps are those who, even if they know what they'd like to do, rarely manage to make things happen they way they 'wish' they would. They don't understand that first is the will, and all else follows.


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"Real Life is Unsafe, Insane, and Non-Consensual." -- The Book of Simon

Very interesting post there...it sounds a little like "consent to not consent" or something like that. Voluntarily being involuntary.