Question For The Guys: Why facials? - Page 4

Greenguy · 2008-05-14, 09:05 AM

I do remember a guy introducing himself to the members of the old Condom/Netpond board - he worked for a company that edited pics & his job was to add cum to the faces of the girls - I guess when you use the same guy for all your shoots, his loads were less than spectacular by the end of the day & this guy was there to solve that little problem.

I remember asking him if his parents were proud of his career

NY Jester · 2008-05-14, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

I remember asking him if his parents were proud of his career

"Mom, Dad....I make fake baby batter and create simulated facial cumshots."

"Ya mean like for PORNOGRAPHY?"

"Umm, no, umm, think Got Milk? Only on a naked actress who had just taken a pounding from a stunt cock who couldnt shoot another drop without bleeding from his balls...so I create his psuedo climatical love juice."

"Well, honey, as long as you're the best fake baby batter maker there is..thats all that matters."

Toni KatVixen · 2008-05-17, 06:26 PM

Damn it!! I had a long post that I was writing and lost it....

I'll write it in word and see if I can remember it all.....fuck!

stuveltje · 2008-05-17, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toni KatVixen

Damn it!! I had a long post that I was writing and lost it....

I'll write it in word and see if I can remember it all.....fuck!

i saw , i got an email that you posted and i didnt saw your text, i had the same before...it sucks!

Ms Naughty · 2008-05-17, 09:33 PM

Toni thanks for your long posts. I now want to write a feature for FTG about independent solo women

I'll PM you.

I have a great deal of respect for the women who put themselves out there as content. It's a big decision and one that is life-changing - definitely deserving of respect

I'm always trying to decide who to tell when it comes to my job. It's a fine line to walk. My husband made the mistake of telling our neighbour and then we ended up in a sort of neighbour war over her pets. So she's got that over me now. At the same time, I enjoy telling people, I like seeing the shock... and then they're intrigued.

I almost always start by saying: "I run an adult website... but it's not me in the pics." Mainly because I can see them looking at me thinking "No way is she good looking enough to be in porn." LOL

Toni KatVixen · 2008-05-17, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Toni thanks for your long posts. I now want to write a feature for FTG about independent solo women

I'll PM you.

I have a great deal of respect for the women who put themselves out there as content. It's a big decision and one that is life-changing - definitely deserving of respect

I'm always trying to decide who to tell when it comes to my job. It's a fine line to walk. My husband made the mistake of telling our neighbour and then we ended up in a sort of neighbour war over her pets. So she's got that over me now. At the same time, I enjoy telling people, I like seeing the shock... and then they're intrigued.

I almost always start by saying: "I run an adult website... but it's not me in the pics." Mainly because I can see them looking at me thinking "No way is she good looking enough to be in porn." LOL

Thanks.

It took me a bit to come to terms with expressing my sexuality where everyone could see. And to balance it with my feminism, because most feminism doesn't agree with porn and sex work. It didn't help that I just got my degree and had the ideal that I was going to get into politics...the idealism of the time...lol

Boy, I know folks who have been run out their homes and towns due to having a site....it is messed up.

stuveltje · 2008-05-18, 08:10 AM

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I'm not sure of how your local culture handles it and views it. I know that porn is normally looked down on no matter where you go, but I don't know how strict the attitudes are.

i think that is an important part too, here in holland, all about porn is normal, you can buy dildo's just at the music dvd stores, porn magazines you can buy at every shop. Strange is that most Dutchies think that all in the USA and other big countries is allowed when they think about porn, which isnt true, seems that porn bizz is still a big taboe in the bigs countries. Here in holland porn bizz is no taboo, but then nothing is taboo here.

sue-fl · 2008-05-19, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Toni KatVixen

Boy, I know folks who have been run out their homes and towns due to having a site....it is messed up.

I get so angry that people can get into so much trouble for doing porn out of their homes. I know their is nothing I can do to change it and I wish there was. I have a lot of respect for you and what you do.

The fact that you don't have kids I also respect. I worked on the foster care side of CPS and you are right, they will take your kids. No matter how good you may be as a parent. They seem to think if your doing porn from your home you are involving them somehow

Like I posted before I don't think I'm content material

But have thought of doing something similar as you do. But now my grandkids are growing up here so wouldn't even consider it.

Oh and Kat I have the boobs also, not as big as yours but big, and I even squirt ( i could make millions..LOL)but wouldn't have the guts to put it out like you do.

Thanks for the great post

Trixie · 2008-05-19, 11:49 PM

Grandma! I just got your email and had to come here and find/read Toni's post(s) and high five her.

As far as facials go, I can see the appeal on many levels for facials, but like you I'm annoyed by how ubiquitous they've become in porn; it's like it's impossible to find a cumshot anywhere else.

When I'm watching porn I do personally enjoy seeing a cumshot splattered just about anywhere (again, I'd prefer more variety instead of every scene ending in a facial). As far as receiving facials, I don't know if I'd ever have done it if not for being in porn and wanting to provide that for my members' enjoyment, but now that I've done it I can understand the hotness of getting one: it's exciting to be able to watch it happen and feel it on your skin at the same time. Of course, you can feel it on your tits or belly and watch it at the same time, too, so I don't think it would ever be something I'd prefer outside of content production unless, of course, there's a hot roleplay going on.

I know if I had a cock I would want to cum on someone's face and engage in some taboo roleplays, too. Again, I think the degradation is way overplayed in porn and there's not enough variety; the overload (ha) of it is what bothers me more than the concept itself.

If someone would have asked me this question when I was 23 or younger I'd have had a totally different response / would have felt like crying at the thought of it - back in those days (early/mid 90s) it wasn't something you saw everywhere, every day. I don't know how much of my attitude change is desensitization, maturing, having more experience, getting to know my customers personally / doing phone sex, etc., feeling more powerful / less threatened by men, or what.

One thing that annoys me is how few light femdom sites there are featuring women smearing their pussy juices all over guys' faces; there's such a huge market for that yet everyone is so focused on CHICK'S getting facials. That kind of imbalance is part of what annoys me about facials in porn. And yeah, the training kids are getting to do stuff like this and consider it par for the course.

Toni KatVixen · 2008-05-20, 01:28 AM

Thanks for all the kind words.

I guess my main purpose to all this was to put a "human" face to the content folks and share what they go thru. With this board being promoters, a lot of that is lost and not thought of.

But the folks on this board is much more open to seeing the other side then others, which is why is it is pretty much the only public board I surf and post to, even if I don't post much.

tigermom · 2008-05-20, 07:29 AM

Just wanted to add my thanks, Toni, for the frank detailed posts. I have a lot of respect, and even admiration for some of the performers (you and Lorsha would be prime examples). You both come across as strong, smart and independent women - and I bring and a few others (Sabrina Deep too) as examples whenever the so-called-feminist anti-porn arguments come up. You are breaking new cultural grounds, in many ways, and I hope that you know that many women are actually enjoying more sexual freedom of expression thanks to your efforts!

I hope for Americans that the standards in the US are changing. I won't say every single Israeli is ok with porn, but so far, I don't think I met one single family member or friend who had any problems with me publishing porn sites. I think pretty much everyone knows. Well, maybe not my grandfathers (it never came up in conversation!) but my parents, brothers, in-laws, everyone knows. Friends too, parents of other school kids. If the topic came up, I answered and never hid anything. People were curious mainly about the business model (same as they are about mainstream) and that was it, basically.

horndog · 2008-05-21, 04:56 PM

It’s interesting to here the reality of what it is like to be a performer in this business from actual perfomers and to hear stories of people being run out of their homes and towns does remind one of the salem witch trials. If people don’t understand your life or why you choice to do things then its seems they may just react negatively to something they don’t understand.

I would imagine one could become a little hardened after being a perfomer and I don’t mean the kind of hardening you get in your pants from time to time.

But at the end of the day, somebody has to make the decision to get in front of the camera and perform, or else their would be no content to look at, no websites to promote, etc, etc.
I’m glad plenty of perfomers keep making the decision to get in front of the camera as a world without porn, naked women, and porn stars would be a pretty dull world.

As for facials it’s probably just a sign of the industry evolving and catering to what people want to see . I’m sure their probably is more types of content available today
that wasn’t even around say 10 years ago, like squirting, big cock sites, midget porn, milf sites, etc.

2008-05-14, 09:05 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I do remember a guy introducing himself to the members of the old Condom/Netpond board - he worked for a company that edited pics & his job was to add cum to the faces of the girls - I guess when you use the same guy for all your shoots, his loads were less than spectacular by the end of the day & this guy was there to solve that little problem. I remember asking him if his parents were proud of his career __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2008-05-17, 06:26 PM	#3
Toni KatVixen Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 420	Damn it!! I had a long post that I was writing and lost it.... I'll write it in word and see if I can remember it all.....fuck! __________________ Peace toni@katvixen.com

2008-05-17, 09:33 PM	#5
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Toni thanks for your long posts. I now want to write a feature for FTG about independent solo women I'll PM you. I have a great deal of respect for the women who put themselves out there as content. It's a big decision and one that is life-changing - definitely deserving of respect I'm always trying to decide who to tell when it comes to my job. It's a fine line to walk. My husband made the mistake of telling our neighbour and then we ended up in a sort of neighbour war over her pets. So she's got that over me now. At the same time, I enjoy telling people, I like seeing the shock... and then they're intrigued. I almost always start by saying: "I run an adult website... but it's not me in the pics." Mainly because I can see them looking at me thinking "No way is she good looking enough to be in porn." LOL __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2008-05-19, 11:49 PM	#9
Trixie Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: near Seattle WA Posts: 183	Grandma! I just got your email and had to come here and find/read Toni's post(s) and high five her. As far as facials go, I can see the appeal on many levels for facials, but like you I'm annoyed by how ubiquitous they've become in porn; it's like it's impossible to find a cumshot anywhere else. When I'm watching porn I do personally enjoy seeing a cumshot splattered just about anywhere (again, I'd prefer more variety instead of every scene ending in a facial). As far as receiving facials, I don't know if I'd ever have done it if not for being in porn and wanting to provide that for my members' enjoyment, but now that I've done it I can understand the hotness of getting one: it's exciting to be able to watch it happen and feel it on your skin at the same time. Of course, you can feel it on your tits or belly and watch it at the same time, too, so I don't think it would ever be something I'd prefer outside of content production unless, of course, there's a hot roleplay going on. I know if I had a cock I would want to cum on someone's face and engage in some taboo roleplays, too. Again, I think the degradation is way overplayed in porn and there's not enough variety; the overload (ha) of it is what bothers me more than the concept itself. If someone would have asked me this question when I was 23 or younger I'd have had a totally different response / would have felt like crying at the thought of it - back in those days (early/mid 90s) it wasn't something you saw everywhere, every day. I don't know how much of my attitude change is desensitization, maturing, having more experience, getting to know my customers personally / doing phone sex, etc., feeling more powerful / less threatened by men, or what. One thing that annoys me is how few light femdom sites there are featuring women smearing their pussy juices all over guys' faces; there's such a huge market for that yet everyone is so focused on CHICK'S getting facials. That kind of imbalance is part of what annoys me about facials in porn. And yeah, the training kids are getting to do stuff like this and consider it par for the course. __________________ A Girl, a Guy, and a Tranny - Unique Indie Porn!

2008-05-20, 01:28 AM	#10
Toni KatVixen Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 420	Thanks for all the kind words. I guess my main purpose to all this was to put a "human" face to the content folks and share what they go thru. With this board being promoters, a lot of that is lost and not thought of. But the folks on this board is much more open to seeing the other side then others, which is why is it is pretty much the only public board I surf and post to, even if I don't post much. __________________ Peace toni@katvixen.com

2008-05-20, 07:29 AM	#11
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Just wanted to add my thanks, Toni, for the frank detailed posts. I have a lot of respect, and even admiration for some of the performers (you and Lorsha would be prime examples). You both come across as strong, smart and independent women - and I bring and a few others (Sabrina Deep too) as examples whenever the so-called-feminist anti-porn arguments come up. You are breaking new cultural grounds, in many ways, and I hope that you know that many women are actually enjoying more sexual freedom of expression thanks to your efforts! I hope for Americans that the standards in the US are changing. I won't say every single Israeli is ok with porn, but so far, I don't think I met one single family member or friend who had any problems with me publishing porn sites. I think pretty much everyone knows. Well, maybe not my grandfathers (it never came up in conversation!) but my parents, brothers, in-laws, everyone knows. Friends too, parents of other school kids. If the topic came up, I answered and never hid anything. People were curious mainly about the business model (same as they are about mainstream) and that was it, basically. __________________ XLEF

2008-05-21, 04:56 PM	#12
horndog Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 154	It’s interesting to here the reality of what it is like to be a performer in this business from actual perfomers and to hear stories of people being run out of their homes and towns does remind one of the salem witch trials. If people don’t understand your life or why you choice to do things then its seems they may just react negatively to something they don’t understand. I would imagine one could become a little hardened after being a perfomer and I don’t mean the kind of hardening you get in your pants from time to time. But at the end of the day, somebody has to make the decision to get in front of the camera and perform, or else their would be no content to look at, no websites to promote, etc, etc. I’m glad plenty of perfomers keep making the decision to get in front of the camera as a world without porn, naked women, and porn stars would be a pretty dull world. As for facials it’s probably just a sign of the industry evolving and catering to what people want to see . I’m sure their probably is more types of content available today that wasn’t even around say 10 years ago, like squirting, big cock sites, midget porn, milf sites, etc. Last edited by horndog; 2008-05-21 at 04:59 PM..