My Beef with TGP owners

[deleuze]

Originally Posted by fireorange

A skimmed TGP/MGP makes no money.

Tell that to the owner of http://www.spermshack.com/

You know how much he makes? Obviously a lot of skimmed TGPs make money but it is nothing compared to what a non-skimmed TGP of equal size makes. Skimmed traffic for the most part is garbage as most of the money a site makes is from bookmarkers, SEs and perm links. The only reason to keep up a skim is to increase traffic - you may be able to double your traffic by skimming but the revenue increase would be minimal. Most TGP owners either; a) have an ego so big that it clouds their judgement thus preventing them from seeing the long term benefits of running a clean site; or b) skim to increase traffic so they can sell off gallery spots easier. It doesn't mean that the gallery spots will generate more sales - it's just that it is much easier to sell them if you can say your site has 300K as opposed to 150K.

[Undisputed1]

Originally Posted by deleuze

You know how much he makes? Obviously a lot of skimmed TGPs make money but it is nothing compared to what a non-skimmed TGP of equal size makes. Skimmed traffic for the most part is garbage as most of the money a site makes is from bookmarkers, SEs and perm links. The only reason to keep up a skim is to increase traffic - you may be able to double your traffic by skimming but the revenue increase would be minimal. Most TGP owners either; a) have an ego so big that it clouds their judgement thus preventing them from seeing the long term benefits of running a clean site; or b) skim to increase traffic so they can sell off gallery spots easier. It doesn't mean that the gallery spots will generate more sales - it's just that it is much easier to sell them if you can say your site has 300K as opposed to 150K.

I agree, but I personally don't care if my site is 300K or 150K if the money is the same. I am happy. I am also happy if my bookmarkers are happy and not getting jerked around. Plus I'd rather save the bandwidth, and when my site gets big enough to charge for gallery spots or whatever. It will be for a very small fee.

[GeorgeTH]

Originally Posted by SaNteria

There's no money in tgps Sly, no one should submit galleries.

this must come from somebody who believes in dancing and |santaslei

But don't let me rob your illusions...

[HowlingWulf]

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

[deleuze]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

I still own two. I also own 2 non-skim ones. So I speak from experience when I say skimming is practically worthless.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

Used to own two, but I yanked the trading scripts when I saw the correlation between installing the scripts and my sales coming to a screaming halt. Months later and I'm still trying win back the surfers. But at least I get the occasional sale.

[HowlingWulf]

Originally Posted by deleuze

I still own two. I also own 2 non-skim ones. So I speak from experience when I say skimming is practically worthless.

Worthless for your sites, sure. Many skim tgps are that way because it brings in more money. Sorry it didn't work for you.

[deleuze]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

Worthless for your sites, sure. Many skim tgps are that way because it brings in more money.

Short term, yes. Long term, no.

[Mizz B]

Originally Posted by Undisputed1

My skim is at 70% to galleries and plan on increasing it. My bookmarkers are growing an their productivity is around 300% daily

Curious as to whether you accept gallery submissions or just trades? I don't see a link to a submission page on your site.