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[cd34]

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...RS=20050071741

I believe this is the document in question.

What I read into it:

Google became a domain name registrar to see if domains were being registered for one year - i.e. throwaway domains.

There is a 'mass' detector -- a new site that grows links slowly seems to be more preferred than one that pops up overnight and has thousands of links to it.

There appears to be something regarding content growth that might be related to time. i.e. a page that shows up that suddenly has hundreds of outlinks might tag it as spam.

Basically, they have studied how non-spam pages grow, and pretty much made sure their engine watches those threshholds. I don't know that I would call it a sandbox, but, age and organic growth appears to have some influence. I don't think a site created today has any penalty applied if it grows with a few inbound links and has content. A site that shows up with 15000 inbound links overnight might be penalized -- but then, if a site was 4 years old and was adding 8-10 links a month and suddenly adds 15000 links would be subject to the same penalty.

At least, that's how I'm reading it.

[Linkster]

cd34 - exactly - and it grew from the days of buying way too many expireds to just feed off the existing links and PR - to me and some others that grow sites in an old-fashioned way it works to our advantage While all these WMs are plunking down huge amounts of pages and links - we sit back and do our normal building and we outrank any of them

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by Nevermail

I only know the basics of SEO but from what I gather from your conversation is that you all seem to follow the process of "ageing" a domain before developing it. So to me (being a bit ignorant about advanced SEO) it would seem that whether there is a sandbox or not is irrelevant as both sides do exactly the same and "age" a domain.

No - If I want a new site up and in Goog.. I build it.. link it and away we go...

If you want a site that ranks (very)well in Google.. then you need to spend a bit more time.. and effort.

Age has nothing to do with what I expect... I just don't expect it to be no.1 in a week.. because that will simply not happen. Google has always ranked site on what it sees as it's "value". Establishing a "valuable" site takes time.. unless you create something that is immediately popular in a big way.


Re - the patents - Too many people read too much into "the patents". Like may other organisiations/people Google may well register patents that it never ever uses. So using the patents to analyse what Google does NOW, is inherently flawed..( and a complete waste of time IMO!)

Where exactly does it say that Google "uses these "patents"??


IMO
Google is what Google is/and does.
What it does and how it ranks sites is still based on on the same principles that have been stated here(by us) 1000+ times.
Looking for shortcuts and explanations to get an advantage only leads to them adjusting things to take that advantage away.

we sit back and do our normal building and we outrank any of them

AMEN!
DD