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Old 2005-07-21, 10:00 AM   #26
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Odd...both Cybermax & Cibi have account on the board, both of the email addy's that they used to register look like greenguysboard.com@domain.com.

Oh - they are also both on the same IP
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Old 2005-07-21, 10:06 AM   #27
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I think we may have to go Emma's Reviews and contact those sponsors. Wonder if they know they are being promoted in a manner that fucks their honest affiliates?
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Old 2005-07-21, 10:14 AM   #28
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Old 2005-07-21, 10:50 AM   #29
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Cibi - you piece of shit, why are you searching my posts? Hoping to find away to fuck me? Any dirt you dig up, I'll bury you with. Cocksucker. Bring it on.
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Old 2005-07-21, 10:59 AM   #30
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Old 2005-07-21, 11:14 AM   #31
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Odd...both Cybermax & Cibi have account on the board, both of the email addy's that they used to register look like greenguysboard.com@domain.com.

Oh - they are also both on the same IP
yes, i have registered both accounts..
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Old 2005-07-21, 11:17 AM   #32
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I think we may have to go Emma's Reviews and contact those sponsors. Wonder if they know they are being promoted in a manner that fucks their honest affiliates?
hate the paya, hate the game (SEO)
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yes, i have registered both accounts..
Just helping your friend with registering an account?
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Old 2005-07-21, 11:49 AM   #34
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I sure would like to know why the fuck someone would do this type of scamming - never mind - let me know if you want a list of the other at least 300 domains Ive dug up so far
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Idiot. Deleting posts won't do anything. I know people.
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Old 2005-07-21, 12:39 PM   #36
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Idiot. Deleting posts won't do anything. I know people.
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Old 2005-07-21, 06:21 PM   #37
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C'mon, Linkster, aren't you splitting hairs here? Even you acknowledge that it would probably take google a month to respond to a DMCA complaint.

I didn't mention that caveat that some hosting is "bullet proof" - perhaps I should have, but I pretty much take it as a given that everyone knows some hosts outside the US, that welcome bulkers and spammers, laugh at the DMCA.

I've not heard of a case where the registrar actually killed a domain based on a single DMCA complaint from an ordinary webmaster. Have you?

As far as the spamreport getting google to quickly act to remove the pages from the database - maybe so - but I haven't seen it, and I have no basis to believe that it would happen quickly. I would expect it to take weeks if it did work.

UW, when did you first report these asswipes? We can start the clock and see how long it takes for google to remove the pages.

BTW, UW, can you tell us where these pages are, so we can watch them?

I still think a DMCA against the host is the fastest way to take pages like these down. (It won't remove them from google, but at least the shitstains don't get to profit from the stolen copy.)

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This isnt necessarily true - it usually is best to send the DMCA to his host, Google and his domain registrar (I believe its Directnic in this case - however the one to Google will normally take about a month to kick in if they accept it - remember that these people will only act on a DMCA if you can show copied material from your web pages
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I dont agree in this case - I think a spamreport with lots of info would be the best

I believe they would if you show Google the number of doorway pages they have genereated, the use of the cloaked pages for Googles bot, and the misdirection of the surfers to a different page based on the keywords
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Old 2005-07-21, 06:34 PM   #38
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Linkster, would you use this as a sample case to explain how a good, effective spamreport should be filed?

Exactly what should be entered, in which parts of the spamreport form?

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
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Old 2005-07-21, 06:45 PM   #39
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C'mon, Linkster, aren't you splitting hairs here? Even you acknowledge that it would probably take google a month to respond to a DMCA complaint.

I didn't mention that caveat that some hosting is "bullet proof" - perhaps I should have, but I pretty much take it as a given that everyone knows some hosts outside the US, that welcome bulkers and spammers, laugh at the DMCA.

I've not heard of a case where the registrar actually killed a domain based on a single DMCA complaint from an ordinary webmaster. Have you?

As far as the spamreport getting google to quickly act to remove the pages from the database - maybe so - but I haven't seen it, and I have no basis to believe that it would happen quickly. I would expect it to take weeks if it did work.

UW, when did you first report these asswipes? We can start the clock and see how long it takes for google to remove the pages.

BTW, UW, can you tell us where these pages are, so we can watch them?

I still think a DMCA against the host is the fastest way to take pages like these down. (It won't remove them from google, but at least the shitstains don't get to profit from the stolen copy.)
FYI: pages were deleted
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Old 2005-07-21, 06:58 PM   #40
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I know they were deleted Cibi. I'm actually more interested in this as a test case, a classic example, than as your specific copy theft.

Altho I'd like to hear about your reasoning on this whole thing? Why did you take the pages down, for instance?

Why did you put the pages up? And how did you do it? Who showed you how to do it?
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Old 2005-07-21, 07:13 PM   #41
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I know they were deleted Cibi. I'm actually more interested in this as a test case, a classic example, than as your specific copy theft.

Altho I'd like to hear about your reasoning on this whole thing? Why did you take the pages down, for instance?

Why did you put the pages up? And how did you do it? Who showed you how to do it?

Why did you put the pages up?

now we know that using TGP names as keywords was bad idea..


And how did you do it?
No comment..


Who showed you how to do it?
I am SEO since 2002.. i know the biz..



Once again, please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused..
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Why did you put the pages up?

now we know that using TGP names as keywords was bad idea..
And you haven't learnt that in the 3 years you have done SEO?
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...Once again, please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused..
Copyrigt infringement is NOT an inconvenience, it is illegal!
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Linkster, would you use this as a sample case to explain how a good, effective spamreport should be filed?

Exactly what should be entered, in which parts of the spamreport form?
Bill I guess what I was trying to convey is that it is doubtful that Google (of any of the other people) would act on a DMCA complaint as he wasnt copying anything - so no real copyright issue which is all the DMCA covers - and Google has gotten very picky about what they will remove with DMCA lately.
It is a trademark issue but in that case only the mark holder can file the complaints
Now to the real issue - yeah its spam - and unless you learn how to use that doorway software it puts in all kinds of results that you really dont want in there - its the same thing that got Robert in a little bit of trouble a while back.
If the pages are down Google wont really take any action on a spam report - they will allow the pages to fall out naturally - however - I would just show where his pages show up in the SERPS in a spam report and then put in the site: command search that shows all of the doorway pages - they may go ahead and nuke them but like I said - they may not
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So Cibi,.... are you DUMB CHEATING THIEVING FUCKS gonna take down the rest of your scam pages?

http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...el&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...ls&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...mp&btnG=Search

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Old 2005-07-23, 10:30 AM   #46
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Since they dont wanna play nice:
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Also led to this registrant - note the PO box is exactly the same address:
Registrant Contact:
ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC.
Elliot Beuvaliers ()
+1.7844512645
Fax: +1.7844856591
Suite 104, 97B Granby Street P.O. Box 1639
Kingstown, VC 00000
VC

Also has a bunch of domains although the IP seems to be either shared or multiple personalities - but all on his nameserver and IP

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Funny thing though about all of this - that address is also the PO Box of a legal firm in St Vincent
http://www.stvincentoffshore.net/about.html so either the original whois's for all of these domains is fake - or some lawyers just got into the spamming biz
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Old 2005-07-23, 01:12 PM   #48
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FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..

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Old 2005-07-24, 01:17 AM   #49
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FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..

but ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is


That 'crime' looks like "i'm the american" problem

You can complain, if you have registered trademark. Not only in usa, you must have international tm and it costs money.


BTW: ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is legal registrar of many domains and there is 3yrs. penalty for revealing customers data.
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BTW: ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is legal registrar of many domains and there is 3yrs. penalty for revealing customers data.
I guess they better not reveal it then if its a 3 yr penalty - BTW what type of "penalty" are you referring to? Are you kept from registering stuff for three years, or some other type of penalty?

Good thing the ICANN made whois data publicly freely available data so we could post whois info since we dont have access to customer data
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