Seems ASACP has a new agenda

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I think that the world got the internet backwards. The internet is like normal every day life.

In the real world, parents are responsible (in theory) not to have their children out late, going to bars, strip clubs, and picking up hookers. The internet is no different. Attempting to apply a "broadcast regulation" to the internet is not going to work.

For my money, the assumption should be made that the internet as a whole is 18+ environment. ADULTS ONLY. Sites that want to be child safe can register, get checked, and become child safe.

Think about it. Every blog, every news site, every... well, almost whatever except disney MIGHT have material not suitable for minors of one sort or another. Attempting to register and block off 95% of the sites is a pointless exercise when the burden could be put on the few child safe sites to work out a way to make themselves flagged as "acceptable".

The internet would be a much better place if the collective governments would just leave us the fuck alone.

Alex

Amen!!!

[Hammer]

Even Disney has things that are unsuitable for some kids. Captain Hook scared the shit out of me when I was little and the Wicked Witch in Snow White gave me nightmares.

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Even Disney has things that are unsuitable for some kids. Captain Hook scared the shit out of me when I was little and the Wicked Witch in Snow White gave me nightmares.

LOL
I'll never forget taking my 3 yr old to disney world back in 92 on a trip down here to Fl.
Some of the attractions were off limit cause of her age and height of course, but as Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs was one of her favorite Disney movies she just had to see that attraction. Seemed like an enjoyable ride for a lil one.

Well turns out the Seven Dwarfs ride was through their mine, dark and gloomy with the Wicked Witch cackling in the shadows then popping up everywheres causing cave ins on us and flames flaring up around us...timbers creaking, walls shifting...hell that ride even scared me a lil

Well Little Jackie spent 90% of the ride on the cowering floor of the car between my feet. Hell when we got back up to Ma she made me throw out the Snow White video in the trash and as far as I know she has never watched anything to do with Snow White or the 7 Dwarves again...lol

We also still have a pic of our lil munchkin next to a Captain Hook 4 times her height with a terrified look of apprehension on her face.

[susanna]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

LOL
I'll never forget taking my 3 yr old to disney world back in 92 on a trip down here to Fl.
Some of the attractions were off limit cause of her age and height of course, but as Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs was one of her favorite Disney movies she just had to see that attraction. Seemed like an enjoyable ride for a lil one.

Well turns out the Seven Dwarfs ride was through their mine, dark and gloomy with the Wicked Witch cackling in the shadows then popping up everywheres causing cave ins on us and flames flaring up around us...timbers creaking, walls shifting...hell that ride even scared me a lil

Well Little Jackie spent 90% of the ride on the cowering floor of the car between my feet. Hell when we got back up to Ma she made me throw out the Snow White video in the trash and as far as I know she has never watched anything to do with Snow White or the 7 Dwarves again...lol

We also still have a pic of our lil munchkin next to a Captain Hook 4 times her height with a terrified look of apprehension on her face.

Have you watched Shrek 2 ?? I was astonished at the inuendo and blatant mention of sexual topics. My daughter was 10 at the time and I had to constantly talk to her about the things mentioned because she WAS old enough to understand what they were talking about. Most everyone says "yeah but kids dont understand what that means" I think that isnt true. They understand the intent of teasing someone and that it was about something "naughty" and if they dont understand now they are getting close by movies pretending to be for kids clueing them in.

[RawAlex]

Djilla, the problem stems from "label adult" as opposed to "label acceptable to children". The basic assumption is (incorrectly) that the WWW as a whole is safe for children, and only a few sites are "adult" in nature. In reality, most of the web in one form or another is not safe to be viewed by an 8 year old child.

Remember, adult doesn't mean porn, think of things like beer, wine, news, movies, chat rooms, discussions, blogs, video games... I could go on and on. Very very little of the internet is 100% safe for children. It should be for those people who want to make child safe content to register it as such and for browser manufactures to restrict access to those sites that permit children.

Forcing only adult sex sites to label and not requiring 100% of sites to label makes it a pointless exercise.

Alex

[susanna]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Djilla, the problem stems from "label adult" as opposed to "label acceptable to children". The basic assumption is (incorrectly) that the WWW as a whole is safe for children, and only a few sites are "adult" in nature. In reality, most of the web in one form or another is not safe to be viewed by an 8 year old child.

Remember, adult doesn't mean porn, think of things like beer, wine, news, movies, chat rooms, discussions, blogs, video games... I could go on and on. Very very little of the internet is 100% safe for children. It should be for those people who want to make child safe content to register it as such and for browser manufactures to restrict access to those sites that permit children.

Forcing only adult sex sites to label and not requiring 100% of sites to label makes it a pointless exercise.

Alex

I am with you Alex. If the parents want a safe place to let their kids loose on the net then they should make it. Make themselves a browser for kids. Make themselves a gateway and check and monitor all sites in there. There would be absolutely NO reason for anyone to put porn in their gateway unless they are completely stupid or evil as the assumption is that children do not have credit cards.

Preditors would have a reason to find their way in though and I am sure anyone that has proposed such a place knows that it is impossible to keep preditors out. The liability is what keeps anyone from making such a place. How cool would it be if it could be done?

Maybe another idea is to make a browser that facilitates a parents ability to make a kind of accepted sites list for their kids. So kid site webmasters can list themselves with this system. The parents can review the site and approve the site for their kids viewing. Maintenance by the parents (adding new sites all the time) would ensure a great experience for their kids. If a parent wants the net experience to be wide and vast they will put lots of time into their adding of sites. I find it impossible to find educational sites when my young teen kids come asking me to help them find something for their special projects at school. If I could narrow my search to trusted sites I have already included based on their merrit, it would be so much easier.

Infact you could sell "packs" of preapproved sites "educational" "for ages 8 and under" what ever. Little spin off cottage industry ha ha ha

Someone just has to do it. Build it and they will come.