football

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

ah the dutchies play today, we shall see .....GO HOLLAND GO HOLLAND

I put 2-1 in favor of the Dutch on my betting slip here at work so they better win

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Fonz

I put 2-1 in favor of the Dutch on my betting slip here at work so they better win

mmmmmmmm mmmmmmm letts see i think it will be 1-1 but ofcourse i say 3-1

[stuveltje]

hehehehe 26 minutes played now and the ducthies made 2 goals in this game

[stuveltje]

well fonz will be a lucky man because yes the dutchies won with 2-1

[Fonz]

That's 2 times in a row I had the correct score for a holland game this world cup, maybe I might start to like them, who knows?

[MightyMidget]

Surprised there haven't been any hoorays here after the US tied against Italy... GreenGuy, raise your fist

Ghana rocks, along with Argentina!

Sweden doesn't rock at all, but atleast we bloody scored in the 2nd game and got some points.. now if we can only get in there and humiliate England a bit in the next round, that would be fun As we all know, Sweden hasn't lost against England in 15 years.

Tonight: Watching Korea play France at City Hall, Seoul, at 4 AM. Expecting there to be around 50,000 people there, it's f**king crazy! Considering how much France has sucked so far, I wouldn't be surprised if Korea won. That'll get the cars honking!

[Thomas]

Yes, well done USA!

And its 38 years since England beat Sweden the last time.

I think its going to be a great fight on tuesday night.

/Thomas

[Greenguy]

I don't follow soccer at all, so can someone please explain to me why you can't screen the goalie? USA had a goal called back yesterday because the goalie's view was obstructed by a USA player that was 20-30 feet away from him? WTF is that about?

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I don't follow soccer at all, so can someone please explain to me why you can't screen the goalie? USA had a goal called back yesterday because the goalie's view was obstructed by a USA player that was 20-30 feet away from him? WTF is that about?

You can screen the goalie all you want but that player was offsides.

Think about hockey where the puck has to cross the blue line before any players. It's similar in soccer but either the ball or 2 players from the opposing team have to be between you and the goal line.

Basically what happened was that guy ran in front of all the defenders and the ball so the only thing between him and the goal line was 1 player, the goalie.

Without offsides each team would just have one guy stand by the opposing teams goal and wait for a long kick.

This is also why Eddie Pope was running away from his goal instead of marking that guy that scored for Italy. For some reason he thought the defense was going to play an "offsides trap". When this happens basically all the defense moves forward and traps the other team in the offside spot.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Fonz

That's 2 times in a row I had the correct score for a holland game this world cup, maybe I might start to like them, who knows?

ha good, one of my bosses wasnt happy with holland winning the game because he posted his bett on the fact holland would loose, btw he already placed his bett that they will loose against argentina jun the 21, to be real i think they will loose too, only that doesnt matter because argentina and holland will go both to the next round no matter if argentina will loose or holland

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by Greenie

WTF is that about?

What I really would like to know is why American football is called "American FOOTBALL" and not "American HANDBALL"!?!?!?!

I mean, how many kicks are there and how many passes with the hands are there?

What you call soccer should be called football around the world!
Peneltykick EVERY time you touch it with your hands.....

I like NFL but I just dont get the name.

BTW Brazil sucks this WC!

/Thomas

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Thomas

What I really would like to know is why American football is called "American FOOTBALL" and not "American HANDBALL"!?!?!?!

I mean, how many kicks are there and how many passes with the hands are there?

What you call soccer should be called football around the world!
Peneltykick EVERY time you touch it with your hands.....

I like NFL but I just dont get the name.

BTW Brazil sucks this WC!

/Thomas

all i know is "american football" is american football the walking with the ball and kicking asses, soccer is running your ass off on a big field and not allowed to touch the ball with your hands, now last time there was an demostration here at the soccer club of my son of "american football" well he his sold, he canseld his membership of the soccer team, because he wanna go to the "american footbal" club, the guys are big and can kick asses (which is not allowed at soccer games), i have gotten info about it, they will allow boys age of 8, my son will be ten in januar and is a big guy, so he will go on the american football club, i have to say, it was fucking impressieve and cool, how they train and start and play a game, i think its time to get some extra doc insurrance when my son is joining that club, i have to say i was getting a bit confused, because i believe it was fonz who said football, because i only learn that the only game named football is american football, our game is named soccer.
btw the frence are leading the soccer game on this monent with 1-0

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

You can screen the goalie all you want but that player was offsides.

Think about hockey where the puck has to cross the blue line before any players. It's similar in soccer but either the ball or 2 players from the opposing team have to be between you and the goal line.

Basically what happened was that guy ran in front of all the defenders and the ball so the only thing between him and the goal line was 1 player, the goalie.

Without offsides each team would just have one guy stand by the opposing teams goal and wait for a long kick.

This is also why Eddie Pope was running away from his goal instead of marking that guy that scored for Italy. For some reason he thought the defense was going to play an "offsides trap". When this happens basically all the defense moves forward and traps the other team in the offside spot.

You surprise me SirMoby

Some additions: So at least one field player and the goalie of the other team have to be between you and the goal line when the ball leaves the foot/head of one of your own team players, when a (wrong) pass is given by one of the players of the other team you can't be offside).

And then there's position offside, when a player is standing offside but doesn't interfere the play the play can go on, but in the USA's case McBride interfered the play by screening the goalie while standing offside, so no goal...

And then there are some other strange offside siderules but I won't get in to them right now

Some graphical info can be found right here

[Greenguy]

He was offsides? I don't remember hearing that part of it, just that the goalie was screened & that's why the goal was not allowed.

I do understand the concept of offsides, but with all these silly American sports, we have lines on the playing field that determine what is offsides. I'm gonna have to go read Fonz's link & try to figure out how the guy on the sidelines with the flag decides where he's gonna stand

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Greenie

He was offsides? I don't remember hearing that part of it, just that the goalie was screened & that's why the goal was not allowed.

I do understand the concept of offsides, but with all these silly American sports, we have lines on the playing field that determine what is offsides. I'm gonna have to go read Fonz's link & try to figure out how the guy on the sidelines with the flag decides where he's gonna stand

Since he didn't touch the ball play could have continued if he was well out the way of play since the new rule is that you can be offsides if you aren't really active in play. So if he was over by the side line then it would not have been offsides.

[dareutwo]

Spain wins in a come back - it was a great game til about 20 mins left

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by dareutwo

Spain wins in a come back - it was a great game til about 20 mins left

yep i saw the game too, me now following all the bullshit babbling about it btw you all should feel pitty for holland, the group their ae in is called the pool of death and i think holland is doing a great job, but next wednesday...i will hide , argentina and holland............

[itto]

well, stuveltje, i think it's gonna be a draw, argentinia simply can't win all games and the dutch (esp. robben) will finally start to kick some ass.
so my prediction: 3:3

[CrazySy]

Now that'd be funny if Ecuador beats Germany (actually I won't be surprised with the way they have been playing).....LOL I can't wait for that game and the England - Sweden Game, they both going to be good

GG, the guy on the sideline with the flag/asst ref try to position himself in a straight line with the last defender so he can make the offside determination. Offside is a very tricky rule, I do ref school games and some local games here and always get bitched for not calling offside and it's so sad that many players, even coaches in that level don't know the true offside rules. All I know is, I get bitched a lot...LOL

[itto]

CrazySy, i actually hope that we (germany) draw or lose against ecuador, coz' germany-england at that time would be all nice!

[CrazySy]

To be honest, I expect Germany to win but this world cup has had many upsets already. I know it's going to be a great game to watch and Germany needs to play sharp or they will pay for it. I think it's going to be an end to end action for a good portion of the game.

[dirtyjumbo]

Since Belgium isn't playing I'm rooting for Brazil but so far they sucked but even when they suck they win all their games. I might put some money on Argentina to win the cup..

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by dirtyjumbo

Since Belgium isn't playing I'm rooting for Brazil but so far they sucked but even when they suck they win all their games. I might put some money on Argentina to win the cup..

An Argentina vs. England World Cup would be fun to watch and both teams look good so far Revenge of the Falklands?

[dareutwo]

Gonna miss damn near everything today... I may have to finally break down and get a tivo

[stuveltje]

oh germany won from ecuador (or how the hell you write that) with 3-0 this eve england will play against sweden, i am gonna watch that one.