ePassporte Official Statment

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Epassporte is asking for verification, wanting copies of my driver's licence and other stuff before I can use the service again.

I got that message the other day, it came right after I visited their site. I was under the impression that it was triggered by my visit, so had you just visited the site too?

My problem with it is that they are demanding things that I do not have, so I cannot oblige.

[tickler]

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Epassporte is asking for verification, wanting copies of my driver's licence and other stuff before I can use the service again.

I'm wondering, should I bother? There's something disconcerting about sending off a scanned copy of my ID, especially when the whole thing is up in the air.

Did anyone else get this request? What do you think I should do? Verify and then wait? Or just wait, cross my fingers that it will be fixed and THEN verify?

Perhaps my question to Epassporte is: does getting your Visa status back require webmasters to show they're not money launderers?

I got the same request also, but for a copy of another credit card as ID.

Do they really think I will give them access to one of my credit cards(including CSV), when the current one is messed up?

[tickler]

post 2000, neat!

[blinki bill]

asking for photo id is normal, paypal and others do the same if you reach certain amount in six months. however asking all users like that with no explanation just after the mess up is a huge mistake...

[GonZo]

Looks like they paid the phone bill for the call center.
Mighty professional!

[markuzz]

And so...this story continues.....

[Charlie]

I would so give up on epassporte! Why he's not in jail is completely beyond my comprehension

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Why he's not in jail is completely beyond my comprehension

It is due to a little matter of him not having done anything illegal. True, he is an asshole (if my experience is anything to go by) - but being an asshole is not yet a crime, and if it were, most of the jails would be full by now!

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

It is due to a little matter of him not having done anything illegal. True, he is an asshole (if my experience is anything to go by) - but being an asshole is not yet a crime, and if it were, most of the jails would be full by now!

Yes, but how is being responsible for people not being able to get their money not illegal? Just curious.

I just want to know the angel so I can pull this shit next!

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Yes, but how is being responsible for people not being able to get their money not illegal?

Unless you are just trying to be funny for the sake of it, read this thread fully and the links leading from it, because I don't think you actually understand what the situation is!

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Unless you are just trying to be funny for the sake of it, read this thread fully and the links leading from it, because I don't think you actually understand what the situation is!

I understand you can't get your money. WHAT THE FUCK ELSE AM I SUPPOSE TO UNDERSTAND? Who the fuck are you and why are you trying to make excuse for epassporte keeping people's money?

I Know one person personally you owe four grand to. When are you going to pay him?

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

I understand you can't get your money. WHAT THE FUCK ELSE AM I SUPPOSE TO UNDERSTAND? Who the fuck are you and why are you trying to make excuse for epassporte keeping people's money?

I Know one person personally you owe four grand to. When are you going to pay him?

Q.E.D.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Q.E.D.

I'm going to take this as a NO!

It's right up there with their emails.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Madoff really fucked up or he wouldn't have been doing a day behind bars LOL

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

I'm going to take this as a NO!

Q.E.D. actually means "Thus I have proved what I set out to prove" (although the more pedantic will point out that it is not supposed to be used in situations like this).

The point I was making is: - It is not ePassporte who are keeping other people's money. Always read a thread fully before replying to it, because people will assume that you know the facts and are saying what you believe based on what is actually happening. And your comments are of the same school as that Middle Eastern country (forget which) that hit the headlines last year when a woman was raped, the courts agreed with her version of the events, but still jailed her for having sex out of wedlock.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Q.E.D. actually "Thus I have proved what I set out to prove" (although the more pedantic will point out that it is not supposed to be used in situations like this).

The point I was making is: - It is not ePassporte who are keeping other people's money. Always read a thread fully before replying to it, because people will assume that you know the facts and are saying what you believe based on what is actually happening. And your comments are of the same school as that Middle Eastern country (forget which) that hit the headlines last year when a woman was raped, the courts agreed with her version of the events, but still jailed her for having sex out of wedlock.

Once again, since your beliefs are so strong, will you put your money where your mouth is and give me the four grand my friend is owed cause of course epass will surely back you up being the legitimate business people they are?

This is really all that matters.

[Charlie]

this is the kind of things that get me through these moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeKV2UYq1Q

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Once again, since your beliefs are so strong, will you put your money where your mouth is and give me the four grand my friend is owed cause of course epass will surely back you up being the legitimate business people they are?

This is really all that matters.

Jesus, read the fucking thread through before you comment. Your heart is in the right place, but your comments are making you look really, really stupid.

For a start, as I said - EPASSPORTE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE STOPPING PAYMENTS.

Secondly, even though you have not read the posts you are commenting on, I cannot see how anyone can assume that ePassporte would take this action themselves, it is crippling their own business, and whatever the outcome they are going to loose millions over it.

Thirdly, your comments about Madoff are insane, there is no similarity. You might just as well compare ePassporte with the Catholic Church for all the sense there is in comparing them with Madoff (but I think you have made it possible for them to recoup some of their losses by suing you for liable - well done).

And incidentally, I have no love for the guy who runs ePassporte, as I said, he is an asshole. I would also be happy to pay good money to spend five minutes kicking shit out of him, but over other things, not this (which is hurting me badly, but at least I have the sense to read the facts before commenting on the situation).

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Jesus, read the fucking thread through before you comment. Your heart is in the right place, but your comments are making you look really, really stupid.

For a start, as I said - EPASSPORTE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE STOPPING PAYMENTS.

Secondly, even though you have not read the posts you are commenting on, I cannot see how anyone can assume that ePassporte would take this action themselves, it is crippling their own business, and whatever the outcome they are going to loose millions over it.

Thirdly, your comments about Madoff are insane, there is no similarity. You might just as well compare ePassporte with the Catholic Church for all the sense there is in comparing them with Madoff (but I think you have made it possible for them to recoup some of their losses by suing you for liable - well done).

And incidentally, I have no love for the guy who runs ePassporte, as I said, he is an asshole. I would also be happy to pay good money to spend five minutes kicking shit out of him, but over other things, not this (which is hurting me badly, but at least I have the sense to read the facts before commenting on the situation).

Actually I would throw epass in with the Catholic Church no problem, especially after make their MOVIE. I want money, bottom line. I give no shit about their personal problems or yours.

Excuses for people not being paid are only as pathetic as those people backing them up (LIKE YOURSELF).

How can a middle man walk the streets without giving the money that's owed to the people he's dealing with. I've done time in prison and etc.a nd dealt with the crips and bloods and the east coast mobs. I can't imagine such a thing.

Please let me torture this loser!

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Actually I would throw epass in with the Catholic Church no problem, especially after make their MOVIE. I want money, bottom line. I give no shit about their personal problems or yours.

Excuses for people not being paid are only as pathetic as those people backing them up (LIKE YOURSELF).

How can a middle man walk the streets without giving the money that's owed to the people he's dealing with. I've done time in prison and etc.a nd dealt with the crips and bloods and the east coast mobs. I can't imagine such a thing.

Please let me torture this loser!

It has gone 1:30 AM here, and I am about to go to bed. I'll make one last attempt to get you to actually think:

If you are walking down the road and some idiot in a car spins out of control, runs into you, and throws you clean through a shop window. You think the driver should get off scott free, but you should go to jail for vandalism, because you smashed the shop window when the car threw you through it???

Your last post can be summarised as "I don't care who is guilty, and I am happy to let the real guilty person get off free, provided I am allowed to blame one of the victims and torture them".

I really hope you are making the mistake of posting while drunk or stoned, because I'd hate to have to believe that any human being would think as you think, when sober.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

It has gone 1:30 AM here, and I am about to go to bed. I'll make one last attempt to get you to actually think:

If you are walking down the road and some idiot in a car spins out of control, runs into you, and throws you clean through a shop window. You think the driver should get off scott free, but you should go to jail for vandalism, because you smashed the shop window when the car threw you through it???

Your last post can be summarised as "I don't care who is guilty, and I am happy to let the real guilty person get off free, provided I am allowed to blame one of the victims and torture them".

I really hope you are making the mistake of posting while drunk or stoned, because I'd hate to have to believe that any human being would think as you think, when sober.

I AM ACTUALLY posting while drunk and stoned! BUT!!! Even under this conditions, you are assuming epass was blind sided, and I will never buy that in my entire life.

You should probably get some sleep and I won't hold it against you we can pick this up again when we are both on the same wave length.

[Goodlove]

After I logged into my account the other day, I got a message, so logged back in to see my account was on hold and I have to send them copies of my ID etc.

I'm bamboozled by this, is this some attempt to hold the funds of epassporte account holders? I don't have much in my account wallet and even less on my visa card, but why do I have to send them copies of my ID? I'm not even sure I trust sending them that data, I'll probably let them keep the measly $100 there is in the wallet.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

we can pick this up again when we are both on the same wave length.

Not a lot of point doing that. Either you are going to look at this sober and realise what you were saying yesterday, or you are going to still be saying the same stuff sober. If the former, then we probably more or less agree, if the latter, then arguing with you will be a waste of time.

[ecchi]

Sorry, just realised that the last sentence on my previous post sounded insulting, it was not meant that way.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Sorry, just realised that the last sentence on my previous post sounded insulting, it was not meant that way.

No offense taken.

Being half sober now (with hangover), I still don't think epass is one of the victims. Maybe they are and that's why there are no legal actions against them. I do admit that I always found them to be pretty incompetent and thus always paid the 3 bucks to have even my minimum payments withdrawn from them immediately. I had so many problems with them in the past just simply withdrawing to my own US bank account that something major (even if it hadn't been this) seemed almost inevitable to me.

I don't even see how he can start back up without paying back that money whether it's his fault or not, or having it unfrozen if that is the actual case.

I love they way they always tell you, your money is safe. Great! But it's not in my hands. Why don't you let me have it so I can keep it safe myself LOL. Again not me personally. I don't think I even lost a dollar like I said, but I certainly won't use them to receive payments ever again. They are complete screw ups in my eyes.

[petergg2]

if they back and work again I will use them again,

because this the best way for me to get small payment's from eg. 10 sponsor's - from $35 to $100 and then immediately take cash at ATM

cashing check in europe for such low amount is problem - cost more money and more time