PenisBot & Wetplace: New rule - Page 4

XPorn · 2005-10-09, 07:13 PM

To side with hoes and penisbot....

FreeSiteXXX.com
ThePornCollection.com
Smutlinks.net
PurePornLinks.com
and
GayPervs.com

Will move to 2 outbound links this week and will also no longer accept free sites with recips to other LLs that have more than 2 links to the LL (cat or otherwise).

I'm sure this will take a while for submitters to phase in, so we will not ban or enforce for a small grace period.

Thanks,
XPorn

Emerald · 2005-10-10, 02:33 AM

MeatPounder: Hmm that seems to work and I will play around with it some .. this might be my solution to maintain my recip table as it was intended. thanks!

!stinger: Im not keen on that recip as it doesnt look like my new recip table at all - use the new recip tables i made but remove 3 outgoing links (keeping one to index and one to category) the free porn on the sides shouldnt be linked.

At least till I get the new one up .. I might just go ahead and use Meatpounders example and start changing them now.

Nuggan · 2005-10-10, 03:48 AM

Isn't it easier to just remove 3 links? like this: http://www.picprovider.com/gremlin.html ?
I think when some surfer is interested by your moving text and will want to click it he will easily find the link 3mm up or down

kit · 2005-10-10, 06:08 AM

Thank you guys for understanding my concerns.
I just figure new rule, but actually don't blacklist SmutGremlins, because I'll sure Emerland will change his opinion. I don't want to break good relations with big link sites.

PS. Again: The day when Google decide the entrance page of usual free site looks like link farm, this day will be last for of LL niche. Let's don't approach it itself. ;-)

Linkster · 2005-10-10, 06:14 AM

kit - Ive posted this elsewhere - but I think that day is already here - I went back to one recip and havent lost any of my category listings in Google - still in the top 10 for almost all of them - and traffic gets better and better all the time from them.
Ive had one single recip for 6 months now and if anything its helped - not hurt

neveremail · 2005-10-10, 09:19 AM

This is one of those things which is pretty uncertain and many are taking the route of playing it safe, and probably a wise decision.

There has been discussions on this thing for quite a while. Some directories were getting hit a few months ago. No-one was really sure what was happening and some beleived it was a change in the google algorithm which was penalizing some sites it didn't neccessarily intend too. It could also be some of these directories were the linking to scraper sites (not realizing it) as these directories tend to link to other directories and a good percentage mey be scraper like.

As far as i know it has not affected the porn sites. And i would imagine its because they have nothing to do with scraper sites and thats probably what is effecting the mainstream directories.

Also I would think you cant really be penalised for inbound links because otherwise a competitor could just give you thoasands of shitty inbound links and get you suspended, so worrying about making your Recip table variable may not be that important, although there could be some advantage by not keeping them all the same, but I think the act of having category recips does that anyway.

However the link farm point brought up originally I think could be important as you dont want your freesite to look like a link farm and you certainly dont want to link to it if your a LL owner and google might think it is a link farm.

However some of the biggest sites on the net are practically link farms www.weeklybikini.com - the biggest site for bikini porn coming top for many phrases including "bikini" is just one big page of links and so are TGPs, and to a lesser extent link lists themselves. But SEs fucking love them. So i dont think they will be too bothered about a few extra links on a freesite page.

So in all I dont think it is anything to worry about. Its just my opinion on the thing but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

However, It is probably best just to play it safe, just in case. Anyway I think LL owners having excessive amounts of links in their recips is just been greedy. Freesite makers can only have 3 per page yet a LL recip can have 10??? I think keeping it to two makes everyone happy. One link to your main page and one too the category.

No need to be greedy

selena · 2005-10-10, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

kit - Ive posted this elsewhere - but I think that day is already here - I went back to one recip and havent lost any of my category listings in Google - still in the top 10 for almost all of them - and traffic gets better and better all the time from them.
Ive had one single recip for 6 months now and if anything its helped - not hurt

And submitters the world over thank you for that, Linkster.

Trust me.

Magnoody · 2005-10-10, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCherry

or allowed submitters to change it some, we might be better off in the long run. Less red flags, and more keyword terms for you to rank in per page. Just my 2 cents.

I can't agree more

DJilla · 2005-10-11, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sue-fl

Now I'm totally confused

I really don't understand all these posts. So I have to know who runs all the LL's so I don't put them all on one page?

I'm finding it hard enough just to get everyone listed with who they want to be with. I understand the big guys wanting to be listed together, don't have a problem with that at all. But my recipt table is up to 21 now just to keep them all together. Then I have the people you are nice enough to give me partner accounts, they should be listed on a good page also. And of course the smaller link lists who are nice enough to list my sites all the time..it's confusing to me how to please everyone, and give credit to the ones I feel deserve it.
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No one said it was going to be easy or even make sense. But, everything you said is probably felt and shared by all the subbers. I certainly agree with you and swore and shook my head when I read this thread.

BUT, the caution displayed over this issue is absolutely correct even if it is a pain. Better to deal with an issue proactively as one never knows when google will lower the boom as they try to become ever more refined in their results.

It is kind of out there for any LL to have more than two links, one to main, one to category. More is just abusing the equation.

Finally, one more reason to build an LL so you can at least have a break once in awhile and be king for a day. IMHO

MrYum · 2005-10-11, 11:35 AM

Cool...looks like a couple of the lists I was concerned about are going to adapt to the 2 outbound links per recip.

So, I'll jump on board too...2 outbound links max per recip at Free Porn Post. Yipee, something else to watch for during site reviews

Surfn · 2005-10-11, 11:39 AM

Silly is as silly does

JoeBlack · 2005-10-11, 11:45 AM

Resistance Is Futile |ufo|

ponygirl · 2005-10-11, 11:55 AM

holy crow did this ever catch fire or what

well I hope none of you guys mind if I take links out of your tables if you have more than 2. Until everyone gets new recip tables up, I'm just going to yank one if I need to.

btw MrYum, if you need more stuff to look for during reviews, that can be arranged (evil laugh)

Ponygirl

Surfn · 2005-10-11, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygirl

holy crow did this ever catch fire or what

Ponygirl

Are you a Wiccan?

MrYum · 2005-10-11, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygirl

btw MrYum, if you need more stuff to look for during reviews, that can be arranged (evil laugh)

Ponygirl

Naughty naughty girl

ponygirl · 2005-10-11, 05:24 PM

wiccan, naughty - geez! oh well, hehe I've been called worse

you know, as my final thought on this (hopefully

) -when I went through my recip tables there were maybe a handfull out of over 100 that had more than 2 outgoing links, and the ones that did didn't have 10 or anything silly like that. I guess I have avoided some LLs because the recip tables are such monstrosities - maybe others have too. IMO, this just makes it fairer for everyone.

Ponygirl

MadMax · 2005-10-11, 06:17 PM

Look what happens when I don't pay attention for a couple days

I will be changing my recips to 2 links as soon as I can get to it. I have never penalized anyone for making custom text only recip tables or dropping one of the links in my recips. I think the custom tables look great as long as they're done right. As long as my links get the same treatment as everyone else's I'm not one to bitch

Until I can get into my script and change things around feel free to drop the bottom link from my recips.

That said, the day Google drops all the link lists is the day people start looking for free porn elsewhere. I'll change with the times, even though I think that thread at WMW is a bunch of BS, and my third link is a well targeted link to my sub-directory pages that's increased clicked and SE traffic to all my categories since I began using it about 6 months ago. If anything, this change will cost submitters traffic, IMO.

There's no real difference between a free site that has 6 recips with 3 links each and 9 recips with two links each when the bot is counting them up.

Linkster · 2005-10-11, 07:13 PM

Mad Max - exactly correct - that thread over on WMW is talking about people that are running directories (not Link lists) that are scraping other directories for their content (like DMOZ for example).
And I totally agree with Google that they need to go away - there is no reason in this world for a site like that to exist - although Google does make some good money off the AdSense attached to those directories

Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success

XPorn · 2005-10-12, 12:13 AM

"Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success "

true Linkster...but others can effect you in this biz.....

sort of an odd fine line we all walk......

MrYum · 2005-10-12, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPorn

"Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success "

true Linkster...but others can effect you in this biz.....

sort of an odd fine line we all walk......

Absolutely true Xporn

rscott · 2005-10-12, 09:21 AM

So, since my last 2 subs to both Penisbot and Wetplace aren't in their db's, is it safe to assume they were rejected due to the "more" than 2 outgoings on the recips and it's ok to resub once corrected? or What?

http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_bodyshot/1/
http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_banana/1/

How many other sites rejected for that and didn't send rejection info?

mOrrI · 2005-10-12, 09:47 AM

10 links in one recip???? ouch...

i think 2 is enough... main site and niche page....

mine is only 1 link

SortLinks · 2005-11-08, 06:45 AM

I agree with this rule. But think that 3 is a resonable ammount. Not much

SortLinks · 2005-11-08, 06:48 AM

btw on sortlinks soon we will post new recips (they are already done) which will be used along with the old ones

Rocco · 2005-11-08, 12:16 PM

on onlybestsex.com the recips are already changed: http://onlybestsex.com/linktous.html

I won't decline any sites beeing submitted to that site unless the new recips are not beeing used

2005-10-09, 07:13 PM	#76
XPorn Selling a LL? Text site? PM me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MI Posts: 661	To side with hoes and penisbot.... FreeSiteXXX.com ThePornCollection.com Smutlinks.net PurePornLinks.com and GayPervs.com Will move to 2 outbound links this week and will also no longer accept free sites with recips to other LLs that have more than 2 links to the LL (cat or otherwise). I'm sure this will take a while for submitters to phase in, so we will not ban or enforce for a small grace period. Thanks, XPorn __________________ Free Sites? -> Free Site XXX Smut Links Gay Pervs

2005-10-10, 02:33 AM	#77
Emerald If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada eh! Posts: 915	MeatPounder: Hmm that seems to work and I will play around with it some .. this might be my solution to maintain my recip table as it was intended. thanks! !stinger: Im not keen on that recip as it doesnt look like my new recip table at all - use the new recip tables i made but remove 3 outgoing links (keeping one to index and one to category) the free porn on the sides shouldnt be linked. At least till I get the new one up .. I might just go ahead and use Meatpounders example and start changing them now. __________________ http://www.smutgremlins.com Submit your Free Sites to Smut Gremlins

2005-10-10, 06:08 AM	#79
kit Do you want the job done right, or do you want it done fast? Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 494	Thank you guys for understanding my concerns. I just figure new rule, but actually don't blacklist SmutGremlins, because I'll sure Emerland will change his opinion. I don't want to break good relations with big link sites. PS. Again: The day when Google decide the entrance page of usual free site looks like link farm, this day will be last for of LL niche. Let's don't approach it itself. ;-) __________________ PornInspector.com

2005-10-10, 06:14 AM	#80
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	kit - Ive posted this elsewhere - but I think that day is already here - I went back to one recip and havent lost any of my category listings in Google - still in the top 10 for almost all of them - and traffic gets better and better all the time from them. Ive had one single recip for 6 months now and if anything its helped - not hurt __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-10-10, 09:19 AM	#81
neveremail Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 504	This is one of those things which is pretty uncertain and many are taking the route of playing it safe, and probably a wise decision. There has been discussions on this thing for quite a while. Some directories were getting hit a few months ago. No-one was really sure what was happening and some beleived it was a change in the google algorithm which was penalizing some sites it didn't neccessarily intend too. It could also be some of these directories were the linking to scraper sites (not realizing it) as these directories tend to link to other directories and a good percentage mey be scraper like. As far as i know it has not affected the porn sites. And i would imagine its because they have nothing to do with scraper sites and thats probably what is effecting the mainstream directories. Also I would think you cant really be penalised for inbound links because otherwise a competitor could just give you thoasands of shitty inbound links and get you suspended, so worrying about making your Recip table variable may not be that important, although there could be some advantage by not keeping them all the same, but I think the act of having category recips does that anyway. However the link farm point brought up originally I think could be important as you dont want your freesite to look like a link farm and you certainly dont want to link to it if your a LL owner and google might think it is a link farm. However some of the biggest sites on the net are practically link farms www.weeklybikini.com - the biggest site for bikini porn coming top for many phrases including "bikini" is just one big page of links and so are TGPs, and to a lesser extent link lists themselves. But SEs fucking love them. So i dont think they will be too bothered about a few extra links on a freesite page. So in all I dont think it is anything to worry about. Its just my opinion on the thing but I wouldn't bet my life on it. However, It is probably best just to play it safe, just in case. Anyway I think LL owners having excessive amounts of links in their recips is just been greedy. Freesite makers can only have 3 per page yet a LL recip can have 10??? I think keeping it to two makes everyone happy. One link to your main page and one too the category. No need to be greedy __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2005-10-10, 03:48 AM	#78
Nuggan Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 78	Isn't it easier to just remove 3 links? like this: http://www.picprovider.com/gremlin.html ? I think when some surfer is interested by your moving text and will want to click it he will easily find the link 3mm up or down

2005-10-11, 11:35 AM	#85
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Cool...looks like a couple of the lists I was concerned about are going to adapt to the 2 outbound links per recip. So, I'll jump on board too...2 outbound links max per recip at Free Porn Post. Yipee, something else to watch for during site reviews __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2005-10-11, 11:39 AM	#86
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Silly is as silly does __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2005-10-11, 11:45 AM	#87
JoeBlack I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 327	Resistance Is Futile \|ufo\|

2005-10-11, 11:55 AM	#88
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	holy crow did this ever catch fire or what well I hope none of you guys mind if I take links out of your tables if you have more than 2. Until everyone gets new recip tables up, I'm just going to yank one if I need to. btw MrYum, if you need more stuff to look for during reviews, that can be arranged (evil laugh) Ponygirl __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2005-10-11, 05:24 PM	#91
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	wiccan, naughty - geez! oh well, hehe I've been called worse you know, as my final thought on this (hopefully ) -when I went through my recip tables there were maybe a handfull out of over 100 that had more than 2 outgoing links, and the ones that did didn't have 10 or anything silly like that. I guess I have avoided some LLs because the recip tables are such monstrosities - maybe others have too. IMO, this just makes it fairer for everyone. Ponygirl __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2005-10-11, 06:17 PM	#92
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Look what happens when I don't pay attention for a couple days I will be changing my recips to 2 links as soon as I can get to it. I have never penalized anyone for making custom text only recip tables or dropping one of the links in my recips. I think the custom tables look great as long as they're done right. As long as my links get the same treatment as everyone else's I'm not one to bitch Until I can get into my script and change things around feel free to drop the bottom link from my recips. That said, the day Google drops all the link lists is the day people start looking for free porn elsewhere. I'll change with the times, even though I think that thread at WMW is a bunch of BS, and my third link is a well targeted link to my sub-directory pages that's increased clicked and SE traffic to all my categories since I began using it about 6 months ago. If anything, this change will cost submitters traffic, IMO. There's no real difference between a free site that has 6 recips with 3 links each and 9 recips with two links each when the bot is counting them up.

2005-10-11, 07:13 PM	#93
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Mad Max - exactly correct - that thread over on WMW is talking about people that are running directories (not Link lists) that are scraping other directories for their content (like DMOZ for example). And I totally agree with Google that they need to go away - there is no reason in this world for a site like that to exist - although Google does make some good money off the AdSense attached to those directories Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-10-12, 12:13 AM	#94
XPorn Selling a LL? Text site? PM me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MI Posts: 661	"Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success " true Linkster...but others can effect you in this biz..... sort of an odd fine line we all walk...... __________________ Free Sites? -> Free Site XXX Smut Links Gay Pervs

2005-10-12, 09:21 AM	#96
rscott I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 84	So, since my last 2 subs to both Penisbot and Wetplace aren't in their db's, is it safe to assume they were rejected due to the "more" than 2 outgoings on the recips and it's ok to resub once corrected? or What? http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_bodyshot/1/ http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_banana/1/ How many other sites rejected for that and didn't send rejection info? __________________ Cyber Link XXX Cyber Link XXX - ASIA -

2005-10-12, 09:47 AM	#97
mOrrI You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,083	10 links in one recip???? ouch... i think 2 is enough... main site and niche page.... mine is only 1 link __________________

2005-11-08, 06:45 AM	#98
SortLinks I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 458	I agree with this rule. But think that 3 is a resonable ammount. Not much __________________ submit sites to : SortLinks Free Porn Reality Porn Blogs Blog Link List

2005-11-08, 06:48 AM	#99
SortLinks I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 458	btw on sortlinks soon we will post new recips (they are already done) which will be used along with the old ones __________________ submit sites to : SortLinks Free Porn Reality Porn Blogs Blog Link List

2005-11-08, 12:16 PM	#100
Rocco www . * * . com Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,546	on onlybestsex.com the recips are already changed: http://onlybestsex.com/linktous.html I won't decline any sites beeing submitted to that site unless the new recips are not beeing used __________________ Sex and Porn Submit your FreeSites here