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2005-11-23, 10:51 PM
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2005-11-23, 12:28 AM
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yeah how can you say that Alex is just a tgp owner removed from the adult industry
I think he is one of the most talented webmasters around he shoots content edits videos builds sites (i know cause I link them) is great at SEO stuff and runs a tgp I beleive he even has a degree in video editing AND he is a honest and hard working webmaster which is something we are very short on in this industry I think your facts are dead wrong and your a little out of line but then again what would I know or what right do I have to say anything I am just a tgp owner
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2005-11-23, 12:32 AM
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Damn tommy, I'm going to hire you to write my press releases...
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2005-11-23, 03:35 AM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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I think the small town realized that they gave me a permit to have a business that they did not understand. When they discovered the extent of my business they knew that they could not allow it to continue. The Problem is when they came in expecting to find me in a sex act or without a permit or running an illegal website or not zoned correctly it was their documents that proved my innocents.
When they saw all my stuff they had to take it. What else could they do leave it here? My lawyer does not think it’s a big deal. I want my stuff back because a lot of it had nothing to do with my business or lifestyle. So to conclude 2257 and all the above will be questioned. Not obscenity he said there has not been a case in CT for over 20 years. I’m just not that hardcore. I also learned that they do have big cases going on that they want to make stick but not in ct. he did not say who but said they were very important because they are fighting it. Maybe a nuisance but that’s it |
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2005-11-23, 03:52 AM
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webwoman, sounds like you are getting good legal advice. I just hope that everything turns out well. I would caution you, however, that if your business permit application didn't mention the adult nature of your business, they might come back and bite yu in the ass. The Enfield zoning and planning committee seems to meet often (every 2 weeks or so, from what I gather), and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a church / school / daycare / playground distance to adult business rule on the books, many communities have such a zoning restriction.
Sounds like everything is turning out okay, get your stuff back and shuffle down the highway to somewhere that is more understanding of your lifestyle. Alex |
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2005-11-23, 04:08 AM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Alex you are correct its 1,500 hunderd feet ..It does say adult website, adult content
and studio so i think they just want me to move on. you do give good advise when read in proper context. Thanks webwoman |
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2005-11-23, 08:40 AM
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Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus
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WOW! Internext is really going to be quite interesting this year.
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2005-11-23, 10:57 AM
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Webwoman - I want you to know, no matter how harsh we sometimes seem, we all really want you to come out on top of this. None of us would wish that type of embarrassment and legal scare on another from our community.
And our in-fighting may seem a little crazy, but this is how we educate each other - through vigorous debate. As bad as any raid or legal action is for this community, it's good that we can walk away with a lesson learned, hopefully unscathed.
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2005-11-23, 10:47 AM
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I think that ultimately it comes down to risk vs reward. Risk is something that we encounter every day, but individual tolerance for risk varies. I think it's clear that Alex has a very low tolerance for risk, which is what works for him. FG on the other hand does not focus on the potential negative consequences, preferring to focus on the anticipation of positive consequences.
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2005-11-23, 11:18 AM
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Most people are unaware or fail to understand the concept of "piling it on". Many laws are written in such a way that if you do 1 thing wrong, they can put about 50 -100 charges on you. My example with FG was the simple outdoor photoshoot. That would be enough to merit a warrent to check all of her content, and in that review, they could possibly find other things that didn't like. What starts with a simple "commercial movie production without a location permit" can end up being so much more. Giving (especially) local officials a small way in the door can lead to insane amounts of trouble. There is always something else that can be found. webwoman: The best thing anyone can do here is learn from your experience. It seems like something very small (which most people would ignore) starts a chain of events that leads you to likely have to move your business and yourself. I have a feeling that the big building kitty corner to you is a church. Most people don't even consider the zoning aspects of their business. Good luck and let us know the end results. Alex |
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2005-11-23, 02:36 PM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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on my way out the door to the lawyer now...will keep you posted.
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2005-11-23, 03:31 PM
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A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one!
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We sincerly would like to be kept posted....
By the way, this thread has left me fairly impressed with those who have taken part... We haven't all agreed on this subject, but it was mostly discussed in a rational manner without anyone getting way out of bounds..... and UW I thinki your comment on the educational value of such discussions are right on the mark. I think I will have to spend more time wandering through the threads here. |
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2005-11-23, 03:48 PM
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Harold, there is a large mix of people here with different experiences and backgrounds. Literally nuclear engineers to garbage men, and everything in between. The variety and breadth of the experiences really do bring some amazing things to light in these discussions.
It is also good that there are many people here who have been in the business for a very long time. Jim has been in this business since, well, before there was a business. You can't buy experience I look forward to seeing how this one turns out. Alex |
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2005-11-23, 11:02 PM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Updates on what’s going on .The first amendment attorney met with my bankruptcy attorney today to find out what happens in a situation where the courts already approved my business.
This is how it began prior to the raid. I was in the mist of doing a bankruptcy and was told that I had to make xxx amount of money to qualify for a chapter 13. I had an interest in doing a membership site as well as selling custom made furniture and videos. I have always been a Dominant female but was not completely convinced that I would be able to earn enough money before they foreclosed on my home. They gave me a month to come up with a plan that would prove that I could make enough money to pay back my debt This allowed me enough time to gather all the paper work that was needed to run my business. It took months to get it approved. I had to show a month to month history of everything I did to earn money. When my income got to a level that matched the amount needed to make my plan payments they entered my business into the books as an adult base business for website, video, content and a custom furniture store. The two rooms I ran my business out of became a studio where we shoot our content and did videos for the site. They approved it. And each month watched it grow. Here is what is taking place now Together the two attorneys are taking my case to court to fight the reason why they came in and seized all of my stuff. He said that because it was documented in the courts as an adult based business and I made all my plan payments from my income from it. . The stuff they took was listed on the court papers from the bankruptcy case so it was business property. He is going to claim that my livelihood was taken away after my business was already approved on record. The raid puts us in default and now we are unable to make our payments. They will have to dismiss the bankruptcy and wipe the debt clean. If they don’t let me run my business so I can pay for it. My bankruptcy lawyer busted his ass getting it approved and he won’t let it go. The first amendment attorney thinks our rights have been violated so he wants to fight it So I think it’s a good thing …it may help others in ct in the end. Friday I go to a strategy meeting to see how we begin this fight .It should be interesting Anyway he wants me to keep the site up so I will for now. Still thinks the town doesn’t want me here and that’s what it about. But I will do what I have to to continue ..and make sure this time no mistakes are made. |
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2005-11-23, 09:37 PM
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Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer.
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Any body have any popcorn?
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2005-11-23, 09:44 PM
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Eighteen 'til I Die
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Someone needs to borrow a whip from webwoman and take a kid out behind the wood shed and wear her ass out.
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2005-11-23, 10:02 PM
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2005-11-23, 09:37 PM
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I had a whole big post typed up, and I deleted it.
I have nothing to prove here. Furrygirl, honestly, you don't have a clue. You don't get it. Not even in the slightest. You don't see the line between sexual and non-sexual. You don't seem to understand that most people are comfortable with their sexuality, but they still close the door when they go to the bathroom. Only a very small number of people want to see what happens behind that door, and I doubt it is for purely sexual reasons. As mentioned in another thread here, more than likely coming from mommy complexes, or other non-sexual issues. Much in the same way that Rape has little to do with sex (it is an act of domination and / or rage), people into scat or menstruation aren't involved in it for any sort of sexual thrill. Your own words: "It's not real honest female sexuality they're after, it's these little things that are removed from it, which are held up *as* female sexuality. Many of the period guys are sweethearts and subbies, but a number of them are vicious misogynists who actually truly *hate* women for say, not sharing their used pads with them, or popping their fetish bubble and saying that most chicks don't get sopping wet walking down the "feminine needs" section in the grocery store." Do you really think there is much difference between these people who have a warped view of bodily functions and people who commit rape? In all cases, they would appear to have certain disfunction when it comes to male-female relationships. Alex |
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2005-11-23, 11:42 PM
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No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz
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Alex, if you mattered to me or if I respected you in any way as a human being or a business colleague, maybe I would give a shit that you don't like me. All of your posts sound like they're coming from someone who thinks they're extremely famous and important in the adult industry, like I should submit to you like a helpless little newbie who can barely tie my shoes.
You haven't the least bit of understanding about human sexuality, so don't try and dissect fetishes from a group of people you've never spent a minute of your life with. You know why I say that many menstrual fetishists started their interest from what their mothers had under the sink or in the wastebasket? Is it because I'm mean, or trying to dismiss anyone's sexual desires? No, it's BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME, in their own words. So, you think that you can take what I've learned in 2 years of following a community of fetish folk and turn it around at me? Ha, nice try. Good lordy, it's so heartbreaking that pornographers like you are the ones with more traffic and more ability to influence people with your backward-ass ways of thinking. |
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2005-11-23, 11:51 PM
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2005-11-24, 12:00 AM
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No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz
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2005-11-24, 01:07 AM
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2005-11-23, 11:24 PM
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You still have answered the main question: Why did they raid you to start with? Because of the bankrupcy? Because of the zoning? Because of the "donations" part of your business?
I didn't catch the actual answer in your post. Alex |
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2005-11-23, 11:34 PM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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We dont have the warrant but because it was local and state they believe it was for either the fact that it was adult based and thought it was not on the books as such.
there was a mention that they thought it was a consulting firm but they did not read what kind. Also because the donations they thought i was running some type of club that was not zoned. More than likely it zoning and permit stuff and the though of me doing any sex acts i would guesss. I guess because its not sex for money its hard to say what you can and cant do to someone..no such laws exsist in ct where it specifies what you can do in bdsm. its a greay area ..i cant wait to watch it unfold though ..still i feel that you all have helped me alot.and your points were correct they do look at all those things ..he did say that as long as it all checks out we will be ok. and he is assured it will, |
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2005-11-23, 11:40 PM
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Eighteen 'til I Die
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Bankruptcy is Federal. Bust is local. How are they related?
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