Do tools like this work and are they worth the money?

billaaa777 · 2004-12-10, 08:49 PM

As someone new at this who is doing a lot of research I hoping to get the boards reactions to the tool below, a professional search engine optimization. Do they work? Are they worth the money? If so, which are the best ones? Below is just a cut and paste from their web site, not an endorsement. Just trying to provide an example. Thanks for the help, Bill.

"IBP is a highly professional search engine optimization tool that helps you to get top positions on important search engines. You'll get the best results that are possible for your keywords on the search engines of your choice. Download the free demo version now."

Dylan · 2004-12-10, 10:09 PM

As far as I'm concerned they do more harm than good.

billaaa777 · 2004-12-10, 10:16 PM

Thanks, keep the info coming.

DangerDave · 2004-12-10, 10:22 PM

Bill... short answer is NO!

If these people could actually do what they say they do.. they would be No.1 for every keyword, and therefore would not have to sell their services. It defys logic!

DD

billaaa777 · 2004-12-10, 11:14 PM

Thanks|rasta|

Presmar · 2005-01-04, 06:28 PM

Don't pay for something that you can be done easily yourself, besides they can't guarantee you anything.

Basically to optimize your site you need to target 2-3 keyword phrases. Put those keywords in your title and description and make sure you use them throughout the text on your content pages and just wait for the SE to pick up your site.

After they do, if you have a detailed stats tracker, It will tell you which keywords surfers are using to find your site. Then you concentrate on those keywords by tweaking (adding more of your keywords) your content page text.

It worked for me , My site http://www.getnpaid.com moved up from "nowhere to be found" to #2 on Yahoo

Google is a different story however...

Hope this helps
|rasta|

GeorgeTH · 2005-01-06, 01:56 AM

Search a bit further, there are some great free tools online! Things like keyword-analizers, and the like (just can't remember current urls - in the old days it used to be websitegarage.com, but I believe they turned commercial and then disappeared) - these things can be very usefull if you know/understand what do do next!

I also paid at some stage a few bucks (something like <$5) for a professional search engine submission by Ineedhits.com and it showed good results (I was actually surprised!) - many people shy a way from these services, too!

There's a site to try some free tools: http://www.netmechanic.com/ - that used to be the big competitor of websitegarage (hence the name I guess).

rtv · 2005-01-06, 11:53 AM

it's better to study for 2 days some search engine forums and you'll can make all they offer you for your moneys. Perhaps you'll get some special knowledges or at least truth trend and get better results than just ordering optimisation services...

dandith · 2005-01-06, 06:44 PM

Nope don't work. Here what has for me.
Keywords
http://www.ppctoolkit.com/?gkw
Study
http://spider-food.net/concepts-b.html
Fix your html-
http://validator.w3.org
Check your work-
http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/tool...ine-viewer.htm

Submit your site - trade links, trade links, trade links.

2004-12-10, 08:49 PM	#1
billaaa777 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fl Posts: 23	Do tools like this work and are they worth the money? As someone new at this who is doing a lot of research I hoping to get the boards reactions to the tool below, a professional search engine optimization. Do they work? Are they worth the money? If so, which are the best ones? Below is just a cut and paste from their web site, not an endorsement. Just trying to provide an example. Thanks for the help, Bill. "IBP is a highly professional search engine optimization tool that helps you to get top positions on important search engines. You'll get the best results that are possible for your keywords on the search engines of your choice. Download the free demo version now."

2004-12-10, 10:22 PM	#4
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Bill... short answer is NO! If these people could actually do what they say they do.. they would be No.1 for every keyword, and therefore would not have to sell their services. It defys logic! DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2005-01-04, 06:28 PM	#6
Presmar My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 272	May work...but why pay? Don't pay for something that you can be done easily yourself, besides they can't guarantee you anything. Basically to optimize your site you need to target 2-3 keyword phrases. Put those keywords in your title and description and make sure you use them throughout the text on your content pages and just wait for the SE to pick up your site. After they do, if you have a detailed stats tracker, It will tell you which keywords surfers are using to find your site. Then you concentrate on those keywords by tweaking (adding more of your keywords) your content page text. It worked for me , My site http://www.getnpaid.com moved up from "nowhere to be found" to #2 on Yahoo Google is a different story however... Hope this helps \|rasta\| __________________ Free Targeted Teen SE Traffic! Submit your Free Sites Here! sex-free-teen.com

2005-01-06, 01:56 AM	#7
GeorgeTH Don't let a programmer design your front-end pages! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: currently on the road in CA Posts: 781	Search a bit further, there are some great free tools online! Things like keyword-analizers, and the like (just can't remember current urls - in the old days it used to be websitegarage.com, but I believe they turned commercial and then disappeared) - these things can be very usefull if you know/understand what do do next! I also paid at some stage a few bucks (something like <$5) for a professional search engine submission by Ineedhits.com and it showed good results (I was actually surprised!) - many people shy a way from these services, too! There's a site to try some free tools: http://www.netmechanic.com/ - that used to be the big competitor of websitegarage (hence the name I guess). __________________ Have a nice day!

2005-01-06, 11:53 AM	#8
rtv You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 670	it's better to study for 2 days some search engine forums and you'll can make all they offer you for your moneys. Perhaps you'll get some special knowledges or at least truth trend and get better results than just ordering optimisation services... __________________ Serious Cash: 27 sites - step fantasy, teen, amateur, anal, hardcore, reality

2004-12-10, 10:09 PM	#2
Dylan Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 108	As far as I'm concerned they do more harm than good. __________________ Dildo's Porn Links

2004-12-10, 10:16 PM	#3
billaaa777 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fl Posts: 23	Thanks, keep the info coming.

2004-12-10, 11:14 PM	#5
billaaa777 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fl Posts: 23	Thanks\|rasta\|

2005-01-06, 06:44 PM	#9
dandith Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 7	Nope don't work. Here what has for me. Keywords http://www.ppctoolkit.com/?gkw Study http://spider-food.net/concepts-b.html Fix your html- http://validator.w3.org Check your work- http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/tool...ine-viewer.htm Submit your site - trade links, trade links, trade links.