I've created the most offensive porn site ever made!

[furrygirl]

It would be kinda flattering to know I'm the "worst" pornographer ever, if it weren't so stifling that I can't even open my site.

Verotel, who *does* process for other menstrual fetish sites like Bloody Trixie, has denied my latest paysite, Erotic Red. What the hell? Verotel was a last resort, since I'm wary of offshore processors skirting Visa regulations.

I've asked before in another sub-forum, but really, are there any good billers out there who don't freak out at the sight of bleeding pussy? No, I don't want spams from every start-up biller in the world, I want vouches of reliability from other webmasters.

It's a truly amazing thing to see- the violent porn that CCBill approves, the blatantly misogynistic sites that some webmasters promote with glee, but the idea of a pack of over-18 women on the rag making their own independent porn free from coercion gets cries of "offensive!", "gone too far!", and "the sickest shit I've ever seen!"

(If you're curious, click on the following link for the scariest, most disturbing thing you'll ever see, which will probably make your eyes pop, drive you to madness, and cause you to go on a killing spree: http://www.furrygirl.com/share/naturegirl.jpg )

The more lame-ass comments on the site I get from people, the more I love my baby, and the more excited I am about eventually opening it. So please, if there are any decent billers who aren't squeamish, I'd love to hear about them.

[Cleo]

So piss is ok but menstrual fluid isn't.

I don't know, it's all just checks in the mail to me.

[Trixie]

If we listen to what the payment processors tell us (the ones who make those checks possible), it's healthy for gangs of frat boys to piss on our faces, for two dicks to be stuffed up our asses at once, to shove dildos in our urethras, to be bound and gagged and have our pussies set on fire . . . but it's BEYOND THE FRICKIN' PALE if we show people the reality of our bodies.

It's legal and cause for celebration for women to go spend their life savings on fertility experts who enable them to bear LITTERS of children, but menstruation is OBSCENE.

Want silicone breast implants? The FDA says A-okay even after a track record of monstrous disfigurement. They can make money off of that, but a woman can't make money showing off the monthly reality of a her cunt.

It's fucked up. It's about our bodies and our rights, not simply a paycheck.

It would be great if more than two people in this industry would write to the payment processors and protest this discriminatory bullshit. Maybe if everyone (with a paysite) would just post some menstrual porn on their sites en masse (a bleed-in) to protest their payment processor's insane policies we might actually get somewhere.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by Trixie

It would be great if more than two people in this industry would write to the payment processors and protest this discriminatory bullshit. Maybe if everyone (with a paysite) would just post some menstrual porn on their sites en masse (a bleed-in) to protest their payment processor's insane policies we might actually get somewhere.

i'm IN.. after the outRAGE recently seeing red is mild.

I'm going to post out to my dollies and see if i can get a few to take some "red" pics and post them up as well as write a letter or 2 ..

[plateman]

I see, women in porn are out of biz when there on the rag - So now they can cash in on the rag hehe

just send me your old kotex or tampons and old toe nails, old hair, dirty shit paper - I am also working on a new niche |shocking|

[Torn Rose]

I think it’s totally fucked beyond words, this is not my “thing” but I’ve seen far worse and there is no reason you should not be able to do it when as Trixy pointed out, there is so much that can be and is accepted that is brutal and degrading.

We did a Halloween shoot in 2001, used a butcher knife, a rubber rat and a lot of fake blood, it was posted on our site until last year when we was informed it was in violation of their policies, so blood, real or fake is a no no.

Double standards.

[furrygirl]

Like Trixie, this is a more than "Life ain't nuthin but bitches and money" for me. I realize that most people here build galleries and link sites and have no vested interest in the site they promote and no ties to the models and creative process, but there are also those of us who are selling *our* bodies on our sites. It is *very personal* to have someone look at my twat and say, "No, that's disgusting, we won't do business with you." It's more than a paycheck.

Torn: That's weird they made you get rid of the Halloween set, because someone recently me that her own new CCBill-approved paysite has a fake menstruation set (faux blood). Maybe she'll post about that here.

Originally Posted by plateman

just send me your old kotex or tampons and old toe nails, old hair, dirty shit paper - I am also working on a new niche |shocking|

Plenty of girls do sell used tampons and whatnot. I personally do criticize it, since it's fucking insane to buy something bloody from a random woman online and suck on it or stick it in your ass, from a health/STD perspective. I see that as beyond "healthy", since one is crossing the line into mentally questionable when their fetish motivates them to risk their very lives by eating the used tampons of strangers. (There are also pad/tampon hunters that scour public restrooms for used products.)

[babymaker]

Furrygirl, i think i have about the only tgp with a period sex fetish category, both pics and movies and i have ony found 5 or so galleries of any quality, so if you have any galleries i will list them no recip...i know you won't make money yet till you get proccessing, but it's exposure for the site you might try AVS in the mean time the 5 i have listed are from and AVS...if your interested just PM them to me since i never check the submits since they all suck and don't follow the categories i am looking for. www.creampie69.com

[furrygirl]

Originally Posted by babymaker

you might try AVS in the mean time the 5 i have listed are from and AVS.

Yup, there are also period sites on ProAdult, sites which, by the way, have some of the crappiest content and copy I've ever seen. They are not even the vaguest slightest bit real, aside from some photos seeming to have real blood, and represent actual girls on the rag as much as Michael Jackson represents the average black male.

The thing is, why on earth would I work hard and pay models for good exclusive menstruation content and stories, when everyone and their grandma who already have ProAdult logins can then see it for free? The crappy period sites are essentially getting my content for free and even making money from it, if their members find it on the AVS and decide to keep rebilling. I've always thought AVS systems seem a bit dumb for webmasters, but when it comes to micro-niche sites, it's flat-out insane.

But, thanks for having the TGP category, I'll make sure to submit once things get up and running!

Edit:
See what I mean? This particular gallery from your TGP features a model licking a tampon dipped in a cherry soda while rolling in sensuous popcorn http://galleries.menstruationsluts.com/ms1743/?3403

[babymaker]

sure! i pm'ed u a recip free account the few galleries i have are proadult i believe nothing great, and NEVER got a check then again only have 5 galleries running i am really suprised that verotel won't work with you with some of the things i have seen on there. anyway, good luck, it's a great fetish and quality content should convert well!

[furrygirl]

Originally Posted by babymaker

sure! i pm'ed u a recip free account the few galleries i have are proadult i believe nothing great, and NEVER got a check then again only have 5 galleries running i am really suprised that verotel won't work with you with some of the things i have seen on there. anyway, good luck, it's a great fetish and quality content should convert well!

I know! Isn't Verotel aware that their reputation is as the medium-sketchy biller who processes for weird stuff other billers won't touch? What makes it weirder is that they *do* process for other period sites. I haven't heard back from them yet about what makes mine so deviant.

[babymaker]

i believe they do scat as well, so it makes no sence??? what other period sites do they promote?

[babymaker]

actually, might want a better warning page??? unless that was just a temp one

[urb]

So you're looking for a processor that will do monthly recurring?

[furrygirl]

Originally Posted by babymaker

actually, might want a better warning page??? unless that was just a temp one

Yes, I'm going to replace the page that says "coming soon" with a new one when the site is actually open.

Yes, Verotel does bill for other period sites, just not me. As it says earlier in the thread, Bloody Trixie uses them without hassle, as does http://www.pantyperiod.com (May not actually show blood, though, even though the site uses the word bleed in the title and META data.) The biggest period porn site out there is currently on hiatus as the owner contemplates our political climate, but he used Verotel: http://www.bigtunaman.com

While Googling around for Verotel and blood, I didn't find any more period sites, but I did come across http://www.voreville.com/free/index.htm
Virtual women being killed. My favorite is the animated GIF of the woman in the meat grinder. (Hey, I wonder if Hustler has a credit card processor after that one cover?) I mean, beating off to women being killed by snakes or boiled in crock pots is totally hetero-normative and healthy.

There are other self-made amateur sites which quietly have period content as well, either out of not knowing CCBill's rules or in hopes to not get caught.

(I thought I'd also mention that I was also turned down by Netbilling months ago. After they jerked me around with "we'll look into it" and "upper management will talk about it" crap, I was finally told, "the entire concept is unacceptable" and that the decision was made when I first asked to not process for me. Then why on earth did you people keep telling me that it was being considered? Funny that one of Netbilling's star clients advertises a "bloody fuck" on their tour. I guess the entire concept isn't *that* unacceptable.)


Urb: Yes, looking for a monthly recurring biller.

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by furrygirl

Torn: That's weird they made you get rid of the Halloween set, because someone recently me that her own new CCBill-approved paysite has a fake menstruation set (faux blood). Maybe she'll post about that here.

After carefully evaluating the situation, we decided to not post the set in question, along with a dozen others that were disapproved. These included sets with stuffed animals, gas masks, red tinted bath water, and cellophane wrap.

While I agree that the current climate is shamefully wrong, in our circumstances it makes more sense to simply comply. Menstruation is not our core business, and one set is not enough to either stage a successful protest with, nor worthy of the risk. I have partners and employees who rely on the successful continuation of our company in order to put food on their tables. I cannot in good faith play with their livlihoods over a bit of content that is not important to me.

I applaud your ability to fight on principal, but we are growing too big and inflexible to throw caution to the wind anymore.
Good luck!

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by urb

So you're looking for a processor that will do monthly recurring?

lol!

[NevDull]

Originally Posted by urb

So you're looking for a processor that will do monthly recurring?

At least once every 28 days.

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by NevDull

At least once every 28 days.

At least?!?!?! |help|

[furrygirl]

Thanks for chiming in about that, Emma! It would have been VERY interesting if CCBill was billing for a site with a menstruation-themed set with fake blood, but won't touch real blood.

CCBill is pretty set in stone about periods, but it pisses me off that Verotel rejects my site and not others in the menstrual niche.

[babymaker]

Furrygirl i think i found one for you out of the netherlands, they do visa/mastercard and checks worldwide....i remmembered them from a bukkake site this is the url:

http://www.vxsbill.com/

i don't no if they are any good tho so check 'em out

[nekrom]

VXS is just a gateway/biller service. You still need your own MA to use there services.

-N

[furrygirl]

Originally Posted by nekrom

VXS is just a gateway/biller service. You still need your own MA to use there services.

I'd love to have my own merchant account with a legit bank who processes for "extreme" adult content. I didn't try to go with Verotel because I'm cheap, it's because they process for other period sites.

I'm going to start pestering the billing companies more soon, even though every single one I've tried to contact (out of maybe 6-8 big ones) have never replied to my emails. Normally billers are nuts to fumble over each other and make offers, spamming their services when someone mentions they need processing, but I can't even get anyone to talk to me.

[lovelycyco]

You know what this is a really f-ed up situation. Normally I am really quite and reading the baords but I had to comment. Body fluids are body fluids whether they are real or not. There is no standard over one being more accecptable than another. If that is the case all of those other sites should be in the same position as you. Now I know not to use a hypocrit like Verotel.

[furrygirl]

Verotel finally roldme that the reason they rejected my period site is because they've decided to no longer accept *new* sites that have blood. It's still stupid, it's still a strange high horse to be on, and everything is still frustrating.

Trixie is having some problems with CCBill threatening to take her (non-bloody site) processing away over another issue, I hope she makes a most here about the absolutely fucking absurd policies of payment processors.