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Old 2003-11-14, 11:04 AM   #1
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People not using IE

Please click on "Newsletter" above and let me know if there are any problems.
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Old 2003-11-14, 11:07 AM   #2
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netscape 7 here no problems
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Old 2003-11-14, 11:32 AM   #3
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Just to explain to everyone...over the next few days, all pages are going to be using php includes. Meaning the headers and footers will be coming from a single file. This should speed everything up much much more. The newsletter is currently using the includes. This is why I am asking.

We are getting on the cutting edge
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Old 2003-11-14, 11:49 AM   #4
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Old 2003-11-14, 11:54 AM   #5
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Old 2003-11-14, 11:59 AM   #6
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Yeah- Moz Firebird fine, even Netscape 4.7 works- though it has it's graphics hiccups, nothing a 4.7 user should mind at all.

Opera- dunno. But if something is functional in NS 4.7 it should be pretty good in the later browsers aside from particular quirks.

Mac people would need to chime in though with Safari or whatever thingie they have these days.

What are this boards broswer and OS stats anyways, Jim?

Just curious.
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Old 2003-11-14, 12:05 PM   #7
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What are this boards broswer and OS stats anyways, Jim?

Just curious.
Not sure what you mean...
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Old 2003-11-14, 12:14 PM   #8
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It looks fine using everything I got Jim

I think Alphawolf is asking the percentages regarding operating systems and browsers for users of this board.
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Old 2003-11-14, 12:21 PM   #9
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Thanks for checking guys...
Probably by the end of next week, the entire site will be that way.
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Old 2003-11-14, 04:44 PM   #10
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wow jim now that page loaded fast fast fast for me in Opera browser and in ie6.0
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Old 2003-11-14, 04:50 PM   #11
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Like I said...In a few days, the entire site will be like that.
We are getting high tech
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Old 2003-11-14, 05:15 PM   #12
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Broswer Stats:
MS Internet Explorer 85.4 %
Netscape 11.1 %
Unknown 1.6 %
Opera 1.2 %
Links 0.4 %
TelePort Pro (site grabber) 0 %
Konqueror 0 %
WebTV browser 0 %
ANT Fresco 0 %
Lynx 0 %
UP.Browser (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
LibWWW 0 %
WebZIP 0 %
WebCopier 0 %
NetShow Player (media player) 0 %
Microsoft Mobile Explorer (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
Nokia Browser (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
OmniWeb 0 %
Acrobat (site grabber) 0 %
GetRight 0 %
iCab 0 %

Operating Systems:
Windows XP 63.2 %
Windows 2000 13.3 %
Windows 98 10.7 %
Mac OS 5.1 %
Windows Me 4.2 %
Unknown 1.8 %
Linux 0.8 %
Windows NT 0.2 %
Windows 95 0.1 %
Unknown Unix system 0 %
FreeBSD 0 %
WebTV 0 %
Sun Solaris 0 %
CPM 0 %
Windows CE 0 %
Windows 3.xx 0 %

Yes, you're reading thaty last one correctly, someome is still using Windows 3.0
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Old 2003-11-14, 06:02 PM   #13
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GG,

Pretty heavy Netscape usage.

Stats slanted a bit more to the geeks who would be typical users here.

Win 3.x - the thing is still out there in droves. B4 I got into web design I was co team lead of Installations of new computer systems within a large Hospital system. Mostly, Win 3.x "upgrading" to Windows NT workstation. A few VIP's got Win2K.

And the ETA to complete the upgrades was appx 4 years.

It's always interesting to see these stats and how well they reflect the user base.
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:09 PM   #14
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I'm a Mozilla user, but I opened Safari to see if everything looked ok and it did.

Not sure what I was looking for. The newsletter page looked the same, what was different?
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:23 PM   #15
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Cleo - as long as the newletter page looked the same, then it's all good

For those geeks out there that love stats, here's the browser & OS stats from link-o-rama.com

Browsers:
MS Internet Explorer 90 %
Netscape 7.5 %
Opera 1.2 %
Unknown 0.9 %
Konqueror 0 %
TelePort Pro (site grabber) 0 %
UP.Browser (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
Nokia Browser (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
ANT Fresco 0 %
iCab 0 %
LibWWW 0 %
WebZIP 0 %
WebCopier 0 %
OmniWeb 0 %
Lynx 0 %
Microsoft Mobile Explorer (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
Links 0 %
Nutscrape 0 %
GetRight 0 %
Acrobat (site grabber) 0 %
eCatch 0 %
NetPositive 0 %
w3m 0 %
IBrowse 0 %
Go!Zilla 0 %
Sun HotJava 0 %
EmailSiphon 0 %
AOL-Iweng 0 %
Cyberdog 0 %
Lotus Notes web client 0 %
Amaya 0 %
Dreamcast 0 %
InterGO 0 %
WebCollage (PDA/Phone browser) 0 %
Windows Media Player (media player) 0 %
NetShow Player (media player) 0 %
Viking 0 %
NCSA Mosaic 0 %

Operating Systems:
Windows XP 50.5 %
Windows 98 22.8 %
Windows 2000 9.8 %
Windows Me 9.2 %
Mac OS 3.4 %
Windows 95 1.5 %
Unknown 1.1 %
Windows NT 0.8 %
Linux 0.4 %
Windows CE 0 %
Windows 3.xx 0 %
Sun Solaris 0 %
FreeBSD 0 %
Irix 0 %
Unknown Unix system 0 %
Dreamcast 0 %
Warp OS/2 0 %
CPM 0 %
OpenBSD 0 %
HP Unix 0 %
Aix 0 %
BeOS 0 %
OSF Unix 0 %
AmigaOS 0 %
NetBSD 0 %
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:38 PM   #16
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Cool deal. I was wondering if there was a different set of stats for 'adult' sites which sounds silly, but now I know.

Stats are our friend.
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:42 PM   #17
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The newsletter page is using a php include. Meaning the Header and Footer are being drawn from a different page. This will make changing the entire site very very easy next time. We will have 3 files to change instead of over 200.

Of course to do this...we now have over 200, closer to 300 pages to change. This should be done by end of week. Maybe faster with search and replace.
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:47 PM   #18
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Yeah that is how I build all my pages now. Before that I used SSI, but I've pretty much changed over to php since I can go across domains and servers that way.

PHP includes rocks.
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Old 2003-11-14, 07:56 PM   #19
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Usually if i'm getting errors in IE on a page that I can't seem to use correctly b/c of coding problems, I'll switch to Mozilla.

Then it seems to work fine.
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Old 2003-11-14, 08:24 PM   #20
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Well now all the buttons on the top row are making the board too wide for my browser window so now I have to scroll sideways.
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