Question about productivity?

[leanboy]

Hi all,

I´m running a couple of text TGP´s and having problem with prod. from my trades.

1st question would be: Is the era of text tgp´s over? because I see it´s almost impossible to get trades to my sites with good prod! and if I trade with a thumb site the prod is even lower!!

I have ben thinking of switching over to thumbs but as I see it the thumbs sites are all about getting the visitors that are interested in free porn, and I for sure do not want them to visit my site I'm in the business to get sinups not to build alot of free traffic, for me quality always beats quantity.

2nd question is: what is prod for you?
If I get 100 clicks from a site and that site give me 50 clicks out to to my trades, that means 50% prod. usually not good! but it all depends on how much I send the site!!

So if I send the site 40 uniques then it´s still a good trade because I earn 10 clicks, but if I have to send the site 60 uniques then I loose 10 clicks!!! so why bother about prod??

[bluemoney]

I use hard link trades to improve link popularity and page rank, not so much about traffic.

I build galleries and free sites for traffic and of course always chasing that organic traffic produced by good SEO

[Toby]

There are two facets to improving productivity.

First, and easiest to control is the layout and design of your site. Things like placing your trade links and/or referrer toplist in prominent and multiple places on the page. If you're using a trade script to skim to trades, getting the settings configured to optimize results with as little skim as necessary.

Second, and little more difficult to control, are the sites you select to trade with. The closer their content is to yours the more likely you'll see productive traffic from them. So in your case this would mean similar niche and also text link. You're unlikely to get good productivity trading with thumb TGP's, although there are always exceptions.

I try to return about 120% to trades. Meaning that if they send me 100 unique visitors I try to return 120 to them. Some of those 120 will get lost along to way, for various reasons, which is why you over send slightly.

A good minimum productivity for incoming trades is 100%, meaning that for every 100 unique visitors sent those same visitors click at least 100 of your gallery links. Most of my top trades are in the 250% to 350% range, with a few even better than that.

My two most established TGP's have an overall productivy well over 300%

Like anything else in this biz, it takes trial and error, lots of reading and continual learning.

P.S. My thumb TGP's seem to sell just fine. My overall conversion ratio for 2007 was 1:700 and that traffic was nearly 100% from my own TGP's.

[leanboy]

Originally Posted by Toby

I try to return about 120% to trades. Meaning that if they send me 100 unique visitors I try to return 120 to them. Some of those 120 will get lost along to way, for various reasons, which is why you over send slightly.

A good minimum productivity for incoming trades is 100%, meaning that for every 100 unique visitors sent those same visitors click at least 100 of your gallery links. Most of my top trades are in the 250% to 350% range, with a few even better than that.

I see what you mean Toby, but for me thats not prod. If I get one unigue I need that unique visitor to click atleast one trade link (and galleries). For a trade to be prod. its how many clicks this one user sends to other trades, not how many galleries he click´s. If he only clicked 1000´s of my galleries and no trade link, this trade would die immediately!

[leanboy]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

I use hard link trades to improve link popularity and page rank, not so much about traffic.

I build galleries and free sites for traffic and of course always chasing that organic traffic produced by good SEO

Think im going to leave the trade jungle and go with what you are doing Bluemoney! I just leave the trade script for toplist purpose and keep my all good Google traffic for myself from now

[leanboy]

Wow!!!
101 people viewing this thread and only two answers, thanx bluemoney & Toby, maybe this is just crystal clear for all you others out there??? or maybe not!!!