"Why I had to stop making hardcore porn"

Bill · 2010-02-09, 08:12 PM

At least it's not another "porn ain't recession proof after all" article.

This one is about hetero porn being mean. Gay porn however is less mean. I'm sure there's a moral in there somewhere.

http://www.alternet.org/story/145574..._hardcore_porn

"But after half a decade of the sex grind, I decided to call it quits. For despite having entered the smut leagues with the very best of intentions, the vast majority of the porn I ended up shooting was not “sex-positive” in character. Instead, the sex I found myself videotaping was of the Gonzo variety: the kind of scenes that are harshly lit, reek of a basement in the San Fernando Valley, and inevitably wind up devoured and forgotten in 15 minutes. If my “career” as a director is notable in any way, it’s that I’ve played for both sides—which is to say, while I’ve shot hundreds of hetero scenes, I’ve shot almost as many in gay porn.
We Have to Give Them What They Want
Though gay and straight porn may appear distinct from one another mostly due to the various orifices which receive the majority of the camera’s gaze, for me, the most important difference was that they felt governed by subtly different moral tenets."

"But in due time, I came to learn that within the context of the heterosexual L.A. industry, while my overt task at hand was to make sure that the girls got naked, my true responsibility as director was to make sure the girls got punished. Scenes that stuck out, and hence made more money, were those in which the female “targets” were verbally degraded and sometimes physically humiliated.

None of it was written in my contract, of course; it was more of a contextual thing. Like: Everyone’s doing it . . . thus, so shall we. My various superiors across the years saw the issue from a businessman’s perspective, reminding me quite openly of the need to keep up with our competition. Anabolic’s getting nasty? Then we need to be nastier. Another one of their gambits was “We owe it our viewers.” We have to give them what they want! (And what do “they” want? Scenes of degradation, of course. Gloryholes and gang-bangs. The facial cumshot became de riguer sometime in the 1980s, but by the 2000s, you literally had to do it in every scene or risk not collecting your paycheck.)

What surprised me most though, was the fact that I found within myself a happy willingness to be violent, a willingness to degrade. Though my bosses may have ordered me to organize and record the scenes of degradation, I followed their orders, and not without pleasure. Something cowardly within me, an internal space, suffused with a weak kind of anger, felt satisfied when I saw a woman “take her punishment.” I clung to the sense of temporary empowerment I found through the bullying. Lust-colored aggression and the satisfaction of making “good money” guided me through scene after scene.

Of course, all participants in porno are complicit, both the bottoms and tops. Both genders willingly participate in heterosexual porn, and to some extent, both are marginalized: I was literally ordered not to film men above the waist if I could help it. And while men do make up the majority of porn’s audience, women watch heterosexual porn, too—quite a few likely doing so with major outrage or dissatisfaction. Still, though, straight porn unarguably continues to be the untrammeled domain of male fantasy."

So, porn is the war between men and women "made flesh".

GonZo · 2010-02-10, 05:09 PM

Hes Obviously never seen anything from Hot Desert Knights.

Let me share a standout clip to illustrate my point

http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=1671965

Tell me that aint painful

LeRoy · 2010-02-10, 05:15 PM

If you're not into gay anal fisting. Dont click on Gonzo's link lol

Toby · 2010-02-10, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

If you're not into gay anal fisting. Dont click on Gonzo's link lol

The reaction video is a riot, but Gonzo may have to dig pretty deep to find that. It's been awhile.

GonZo · 2010-02-10, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

The reaction video is a riot, but Gonzo may have to dig pretty deep to find that. It's been awhile.

I shot it. Let me see if I can find it.

GonZo · 2010-02-10, 06:09 PM

By request..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMT-k...layer_embedded

A little marketing well over a year ago before it was the cool.

2010-02-09, 08:12 PM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	"Why I had to stop making hardcore porn" At least it's not another "porn ain't recession proof after all" article. This one is about hetero porn being mean. Gay porn however is less mean. I'm sure there's a moral in there somewhere. http://www.alternet.org/story/145574..._hardcore_porn "But after half a decade of the sex grind, I decided to call it quits. For despite having entered the smut leagues with the very best of intentions, the vast majority of the porn I ended up shooting was not “sex-positive” in character. Instead, the sex I found myself videotaping was of the Gonzo variety: the kind of scenes that are harshly lit, reek of a basement in the San Fernando Valley, and inevitably wind up devoured and forgotten in 15 minutes. If my “career” as a director is notable in any way, it’s that I’ve played for both sides—which is to say, while I’ve shot hundreds of hetero scenes, I’ve shot almost as many in gay porn. We Have to Give Them What They Want Though gay and straight porn may appear distinct from one another mostly due to the various orifices which receive the majority of the camera’s gaze, for me, the most important difference was that they felt governed by subtly different moral tenets." "But in due time, I came to learn that within the context of the heterosexual L.A. industry, while my overt task at hand was to make sure that the girls got naked, my true responsibility as director was to make sure the girls got punished. Scenes that stuck out, and hence made more money, were those in which the female “targets” were verbally degraded and sometimes physically humiliated. None of it was written in my contract, of course; it was more of a contextual thing. Like: Everyone’s doing it . . . thus, so shall we. My various superiors across the years saw the issue from a businessman’s perspective, reminding me quite openly of the need to keep up with our competition. Anabolic’s getting nasty? Then we need to be nastier. Another one of their gambits was “We owe it our viewers.” We have to give them what they want! (And what do “they” want? Scenes of degradation, of course. Gloryholes and gang-bangs. The facial cumshot became de riguer sometime in the 1980s, but by the 2000s, you literally had to do it in every scene or risk not collecting your paycheck.) What surprised me most though, was the fact that I found within myself a happy willingness to be violent, a willingness to degrade. Though my bosses may have ordered me to organize and record the scenes of degradation, I followed their orders, and not without pleasure. Something cowardly within me, an internal space, suffused with a weak kind of anger, felt satisfied when I saw a woman “take her punishment.” I clung to the sense of temporary empowerment I found through the bullying. Lust-colored aggression and the satisfaction of making “good money” guided me through scene after scene. Of course, all participants in porno are complicit, both the bottoms and tops. Both genders willingly participate in heterosexual porn, and to some extent, both are marginalized: I was literally ordered not to film men above the waist if I could help it. And while men do make up the majority of porn’s audience, women watch heterosexual porn, too—quite a few likely doing so with major outrage or dissatisfaction. Still, though, straight porn unarguably continues to be the untrammeled domain of male fantasy." So, porn is the war between men and women "made flesh".

2010-02-10, 05:15 PM	#3
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,370	If you're not into gay anal fisting. Dont click on Gonzo's link lol __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM

2010-02-10, 05:09 PM	#2
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	Hes Obviously never seen anything from Hot Desert Knights. Let me share a standout clip to illustrate my point http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=1671965 Tell me that aint painful

2010-02-10, 06:09 PM	#6
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	By request..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMT-k...layer_embedded A little marketing well over a year ago before it was the cool.