BIG changes at CyberAge AVS!! - Page 4

cheeky · 2003-10-11, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
so, you are just using me? okay.

Who me???

Nope just haven't had a chance to change them before this and now its a very good reason to

NotThatKevin · 2003-10-11, 11:05 PM

I started my first free site about 6 months ago and it is working very well for sales to my pay sites.

JanTM you can setup ssi to pull in your AVS signup page so that when you want to switch to another one it is simple. Just a thought.

Kush · 2003-10-12, 04:36 AM

It would be interesting to see a CyberAge response to this thread.

cheeky · 2003-10-12, 04:57 AM

Hi Kush,

It would be interesting to see Cyberage's response indeed....

maybe Greenguy or Jim can persuade them to appear on this board as well....

Greenguy · 2003-10-12, 07:08 AM

I posted on their board after I found out about it:

http://www.avsprograms.com/forum/ind...ST&f=2&t=1015&

They never replied directly to me on the board, but I did get a PM from them asking what it would take to make things right. I told them 2 simple things:

1 - get rid of the FPA
2 - get rid of the new windows

They have yet to reply to my last message, so who knows what they are thinking.

It looks like the big AVS's are going the way of the dodo bird. I just hope the smaller ones that are stil up & running don't end up like GloBil.

Kush · 2003-10-12, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Greenguy
They have yet to reply to my last message, so who knows what they are thinking.

They're probably doing some serious RE-thinking of their plan...

So many things in this industry spiral into larger things beyond belief... and maybe they're starting to feel this way

Kush · 2003-10-12, 06:16 PM

Damn that's one ugly thread over that AVS board....

glad I never really ventured much into AVS |skull|

DangerDave · 2003-10-12, 08:15 PM

THIS IS OPINION ONLY!

I believe most AVS's will be gone shortly... based on the simple fact that the model is not sustainable under the new Visa rules, that require the "biller" to 'own' the content they supply.

Some of the larger AVS's are trying things to get around the rules, but I do not believe that any of them are sustainable.

CA said

Quote:

As of right now, I can't speak for the future, since they can change their minds whenever they wish, but they are happy with this model.

eg: tommorrow it could all change again.

I would not be moving sites from one AVS to another on the word of the recieving AVS saying that there is no problem.. There is a problem and they just arent doing anything about it.

I believe you should look for a longer term solution.. unles you are structured to change your AVS site scripts in a very easy fashion, and wish to do it regularly.

DD

Cleo · 2003-10-12, 08:32 PM

I agree with DD.

Time to move on to other means of sales.

Surfn · 2003-10-12, 08:59 PM

I'm glad to see that others share my view |rasta|

Kush · 2003-10-12, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
I agree with DD.

Time to move on to other means of sales.

One of the downsides, however, will be a greater saturation of free sites now that AVS has taken a turn for the worse, which on average will probably mean less average profit per free site

Cleo · 2003-10-12, 09:48 PM

I don't think it can get any worse then what can be found at any big TGP.

Kush · 2003-10-12, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
I don't think it can get any worse then what can be found at any big TGP.

ditto.

Free sites will always be more profitable than galleries (at least in my opinion)

KCat · 2003-10-13, 12:51 AM

I love the AVS model, but when you take away (or greatly diminish) the upsells, you might as well just build free sites that sell the sponsors directly.

I'm not buying the whole "exposing members to the great bonus content will boost retention" theory. Good paysites have higher quantity & quality of content, so why make 'em jump through the hoops?

Kush · 2003-10-13, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
I love the AVS model, but when you take away (or greatly diminish) the upsells, you might as well just build free sites that sell the sponsors directly.

I'm not buying the whole "exposing members to the great bonus content will boost retention" theory. Good paysites have higher quantity & quality of content, so why make 'em jump through the hoops?

Did you know we have the same Birthdays?

KCat · 2003-10-13, 03:00 AM

Cool! I have family in Austin too.

Kush · 2003-10-13, 07:07 AM

Well I've got some family up in Canada too

We just share all the similarieities don't we?

lassiter · 2003-10-13, 04:47 PM

Another Austinite here!

Kush · 2003-10-13, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by lassiter
Another Austinite here!

Wow, nice to meet you!

I'm coming across more and more people from Austin on the net, pretty cool indeed

dancercash · 2010-03-30, 01:19 AM

is AVS still good for business?

SheepGuy · 2010-03-30, 01:30 AM

Bringing 7 year old threads back from the dead is likely not good for business.
It really makes you look like a sig whore.

dancercash · 2010-03-30, 01:32 AM

oups sorry
I didnt notice
thanks for the advice

SheepGuy · 2010-03-30, 01:39 AM

Gotta admit though, going back through the history is an interesting read for a guy who still makes a good chunk of his income from AVS sites.

The sky is, and always will be, falling.

oldbrad · 2010-03-30, 01:45 AM

I'm still reading the other 9 4+ year old posts they brought back.

dancercash · 2010-03-30, 01:49 AM

its my fault i was searching for post that were talking about reviews and didn't pay attention about how old the posts were.
Rookie mistake
I apologize

2003-10-11, 11:05 PM	#77
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2003-10-12, 04:36 AM	#78
Kush Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 201	It would be interesting to see a CyberAge response to this thread. __________________ 120x60 Max For Sig Files

2003-10-12, 04:57 AM	#79
cheeky If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 33	Hi Kush, It would be interesting to see Cyberage's response indeed.... maybe Greenguy or Jim can persuade them to appear on this board as well.... __________________ Marie Sex Story Text Providers of text for adult and mainstream sites.

2003-10-12, 07:08 AM	#80
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	I posted on their board after I found out about it: http://www.avsprograms.com/forum/ind...ST&f=2&t=1015& They never replied directly to me on the board, but I did get a PM from them asking what it would take to make things right. I told them 2 simple things: 1 - get rid of the FPA 2 - get rid of the new windows They have yet to reply to my last message, so who knows what they are thinking. It looks like the big AVS's are going the way of the dodo bird. I just hope the smaller ones that are stil up & running don't end up like GloBil. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-10-12, 06:16 PM	#82
Kush Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 201	Damn that's one ugly thread over that AVS board.... glad I never really ventured much into AVS \|skull\| __________________ 120x60 Max For Sig Files

2003-10-12, 08:32 PM	#84
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I agree with DD. Time to move on to other means of sales. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-12, 08:59 PM	#85
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I'm glad to see that others share my view \|rasta\| __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2003-10-12, 09:48 PM	#87
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I don't think it can get any worse then what can be found at any big TGP. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-13, 12:51 AM	#89
KCat With $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like ... love! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 313	I love the AVS model, but when you take away (or greatly diminish) the upsells, you might as well just build free sites that sell the sponsors directly. I'm not buying the whole "exposing members to the great bonus content will boost retention" theory. Good paysites have higher quantity & quality of content, so why make 'em jump through the hoops?

2003-10-13, 03:00 AM	#91
KCat With $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like ... love! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 313	Cool! I have family in Austin too.

2003-10-13, 07:07 AM	#92
Kush Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 201	Well I've got some family up in Canada too We just share all the similarieities don't we? __________________ 120x60 Max For Sig Files

2003-10-13, 04:47 PM	#93
lassiter I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 473	Another Austinite here!

2010-03-30, 01:19 AM	#95
dancercash If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 32	is AVS still good for business? __________________

2010-03-30, 01:30 AM	#96
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Bringing 7 year old threads back from the dead is likely not good for business. It really makes you look like a sig whore. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2010-03-30, 01:32 AM	#97
dancercash If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 32	oups sorry I didnt notice thanks for the advice __________________

2010-03-30, 01:39 AM	#98
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Gotta admit though, going back through the history is an interesting read for a guy who still makes a good chunk of his income from AVS sites. The sky is, and always will be, falling. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2010-03-30, 01:45 AM	#99
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	I'm still reading the other 9 4+ year old posts they brought back. __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2010-03-30, 01:49 AM	#100
dancercash If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 32	its my fault i was searching for post that were talking about reviews and didn't pay attention about how old the posts were. Rookie mistake I apologize __________________