I am so so so so fucking sorry.....

[HarD_RocK]

I guess gun owners should be responsible owners so they don't hurt innocent people, right?

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Don't all men have a squirt gun?

I like to reffer to it as my "bazooka" |shot

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by doublep

on a serious note - Switzerland is awash with guns, and I mean awash - that's why the government can't make any changes to the Swiss constitution without a referendum - and gun crime is virtually non existent here.

Well, there's a reason why it's non-existent in Switzerland...everyone is too busy shooting holes in the cheese.

[AcidMaX]

Originally Posted by Cleo

So you are going to use your guns to protect yourself from who or what?

This was actually written to provide us as the "People" the ability to bear arms and overthrow our government if we felt they were fucking things up. Think about the simple parts of the documents and it all makes sense. Both parties have just tried to fit the pieces to make their politics easier to swallow for the rest of us. We do have some fundamental rights that will never be taken away and if they are, we have the right to take the government back over.

[AcidMaX]

Originally Posted by Jim

Cleo, I watched Bullshit on Showtime this week with Penn And Teller and for the first time found someone that agreed with me. As everyone here knows, I hate Republicans... But, I do believe in the right to bare arms. The reason is for the reason you alluded to. If our government got out of hand say like back in Germany with Hitler. The militias would be the only thing that would stop it. We need to defend ourselves not from ourselves but from our government.

WOW

This is the same way I feel though, there are some things I am conservative about, and others I am liberal about. There is no one party that has all the right answers, if there were it would probably be libertarian because it is for less government.

[Alphawolf]

Originally Posted by HarD_RocK

I guess gun owners should be responsible owners so they don't hurt innocent people, right?

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvacci.html

http://www.tsra.com/LottPage.htm

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html

The other side:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issues/?page=lott

The truth is somewhere in the middle- I'm guessing.

But, that doesn't matter.

It is what you believe.

I'd be in favor of mandatory safety classes- but many people get all upset about that.

Nobody can protect stupid people from themselves.

[doublep]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

Well, there's a reason why it's non-existent in Switzerland...everyone is too busy shooting holes in the cheese.

hehehe!! no.. everybody is too busy with referendums

[doublep]

Originally Posted by Alphawolf

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Nobody can protect stupid people from themselves.

Very true - you can not account for stupidity - many folk are just as dangerous and deadly behind the wheel of a car.

[speed57]

Bowling for Columbine made me reflect on several things. Good documentary!

[jones]

talk about responsiblity and accountability. Gun owners must have those two traits.