If you could build your own link list, what would you want?

[Jim]

As in features...
What would be your wish list?
So far I have
Toplist
Checking for recips and changes to the pages daily
A few other things but not much.

Help me out here...you guys have been doing this for years, help me out.

[Greenguy]

You seem to know it all - why ask on the board

[Cleo]

What does this have to do with motorcycles and lumber?

[Rocco]

think a good design is the most important thing

http://www.******.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/

[RawAlex]

At least to start with, you want to work hard to make sure that most of your incoming traffic is converted into outgoing traffic. That will help to drive demand to be on your list, and will allow you better link trades.

As your list grows, you can add more "roadblocks" and diversions to the game.

Alex

[Mr. Blue]

Basically Autogal SQL only for Link Lists. I love everything about the Autogal tgp script.

[terry]

Good one Jim.. I always wanted to get my own link list but could never really get around to making one properly... will be good to see what others have to say.

[plateman]

import hosted FS and gall through a text file.. I think jim you mentioned other good features and if sparky is making a script - I may buy it, I am in the market for one soon, I can get another link admin for 150 so its got to be around the same price.. Oh and if its template driven it should be easy to code...

[Smutferret]

Hey Jim,

Off the top of my head, if I were looking for a link list script right now I would probably look for features like...

A very flexible template system that would be able to produce good SE friendly pages.

An advanced blacklist feature for blocking cheaters and maybe a whitelist as well.

Some kind of email confirmation and rejection template system.

A good site review system that would allow me to skip sites and come back to them later.

Maybe and email database for contacting submitters.

Those are all I can think of at the moment...

Regards,
SF

[Boogie]

The things that my current link script doesnt have that I really wish it did are

1) easy import of mass links, FHS and etc...

2) a really good linkbot that could check for various important stuff
a) linkback
b) changes in the content
c) possible changes in HTML
d) the other important linkbot stuff

3) if you're adding a toplist script for it why not add one for each category as well? To encourage linking to category pages as well as the main

[Useless]

As the Boogmeister said, everyone seems to be looking for a better bot. The bot becomes more and more important every day.

Otherwise, I'd want Raw Alex's FindPics design and Cleo's recips.

[eman]

Easy importation of free hosted galleries and sites is a biggy.
Also I'd like to have a facility to share listings between scripts - in my case linkadmin and gossamer links. That would require some sort of database translation, I imagine (he said, totally ignorant of what might be the best way to do it). Point is, I'm entering stuff twice and I've got better things to do.

[Jim]

Thanks guys, except Greenie
We are starting from scratch almost so any and all good features will be there.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

You seem to know it all - why ask on the board

While I can't argue about most of what you said, I really don't know much about link list admin features. But the rest of what you said is true.

[Greenguy]

Here's a couple of tips, my friend (even though I had to hear about this little project that you will own when you announced it on the board)

Originally Posted by Jim

Toplist

That's not really part of a Link List's admin, since it runs off the server stats & there's so many top list & ranking scripts out there that I wouldn't bother building something custom into an admin.

Checking for recips and changes to the pages daily

The recip part is easy - but the changes to the pages, this would be rather tricky - see, a TGP can check the galleries that it's linking to for html changes because (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) they check the characters on the page & keep a list of the page sizes that they are linking to - a change in the page size would mean a change in the html & thus, a verification process would have to take place. The big point is that it's only 1 page.

But Link Lists link to Free Sites, which are usually 4 pages, so you'd need to have the script spider the pages on the site & check the sizes for all of the pages. But the problem with that is if the site has any other links to pages on that domain (which is a very common thing with copyrights & extra links & 2257 stuff & whatnot) then the spider would either have to total up a lot of pages (assuming that all the links are not hard links with the domain in them, which would probably throw the spider off) OR the reviewer would have to tell the admin which pages to monitor & which pages to ignore & that seems like it'd be a HUGE pain in the ass.

Any other dreams of yours that I can crush?

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Here's a couple of tips, my friend (even though I had to hear about this little project that you will own when you announced it on the board)


That's not really part of a Link List's admin, since it runs off the server stats & there's so many top list & ranking scripts out there that I wouldn't bother building something custom into an admin.

The recip part is easy - but the changes to the pages, this would be rather tricky - see, a TGP can check the galleries that it's linking to for html changes because (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) they check the characters on the page & keep a list of the page sizes that they are linking to - a change in the page size would mean a change in the html & thus, a verification process would have to take place. The big point is that it's only 1 page.

But Link Lists link to Free Sites, which are usually 4 pages, so you'd need to have the script spider the pages on the site & check the sizes for all of the pages. But the problem with that is if the site has any other links to pages on that domain (which is a very common thing with copyrights & extra links & 2257 stuff & whatnot) then the spider would either have to total up a lot of pages (assuming that all the links are not hard links with the domain in them, which would probably throw the spider off) OR the reviewer would have to tell the admin which pages to monitor & which pages to ignore & that seems like it'd be a HUGE pain in the ass.

Any other dreams of yours that I can crush?

You are crushing Sparkys dreams if that is possible

[Greenguy]

If you can come up with an idea that I can't squish with my puny little mind, then you will have a rock solid project on your hands.

I'm a phone call away

[Jim]

We are woking on it my friend
Sparky is building away as well as urb.
I'll call in the morning. Tomorrow morning is lumber day. Do yourself a favor when you can. Get a Rhino lining on your truck. You would not believe the rust I saw under the plastic liner we both used.

[Linkster]

Adding a few items to the wishlist as requested

The ability to run the link-checker as a cronjob and also have it remove links (sites) that go 404,302 etc (variable so I can set it to only 404s or only 302s) - with the ability to do a snapshot prior to the deletes as part of the cron (just in case)

I dont think you want to check for changes to the pages as GG stated, however the ability to check for the if-modified-since to "update" dates on sites in case you only list sites for 6 months or so. (this should also be an included setting variable - time links are good and time links are new, featured, recommended etc)
Which also brings up the next feature - the ability to break a category down into featured, new , recommended etc - and have those be able to be randomly rotated from a database table per category

definitely agree with the import text file feature for HFS's

ability to select any number of sites from a search (say for a particular domain or submitter, or email) and delete all of them in one button push - no check box selects required - however the ability to also delete one-by-one if desired.

blacklist and whitelist definitely - with the ability to have a separate whitelist partner submit system - working independently of the normal submit system

ability to select more that 1 site per day by type of submitter for acceptance - say categories of submitters that can submit 5 per day etc.

theres just a few to chew on - oh yeah - the ability to edit anything in the database myself LOL - without learning a new language

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

But Link Lists link to Free Sites, which are usually 4 pages, so you'd need to have the script spider the pages on the site & check the sizes for all of the pages. But the problem with that is if the site has any other links to pages on that domain (which is a very common thing with copyrights & extra links & 2257 stuff & whatnot) then the spider would either have to total up a lot of pages (assuming that all the links are not hard links with the domain in them, which would probably throw the spider off) OR the reviewer would have to tell the admin which pages to monitor & which pages to ignore & that seems like it'd be a HUGE pain in the ass.

Any other dreams of yours that I can crush?

It is very doable. Mine gets it right 99 times out of 100.

[terry]

damn.. now this is interesting.. I cant wait to see some final product .. you guys gonna sell me a copy?

[JohnnyR]

What I want is a good acceptance/rejection mailing system. Which would eventually mention the site in question too.

[Jim]

Keep them coming guys. I talked to Sparky yesterday and he said he was taking notes I truly believe that if it is possible to do, he can do it.

Javes.com A Sparky and Jim Joint

[Jim]

I have no idea why I started this in Chit Chat but I am going to move it to the main forum. There is no spam and it is nothing but business. I will leave a redirect up.

[Jim]

And...the graphic and html design is done. So, as soon as Sparky is done, we are ready for business. Of course, it looks beautiful Now the features are being added to the admin.