About recips of linklists

[Yahook]

Guys, you really like these recip codes? |confused|

http://www.youngfux.com/genesis/search/linkcodes.html

I personally think that this is more than enaugh to have 2 links, or even 3 in the recip.

I would appreciate very much to hear your opinion in this thread. And please don't give me link to another threads where this problem was already discussed.

[RawAlex]

Asked and answered. Please consult the search function for more in this subject.

Alex

[JoeBlack]

SEARCH BOX CODE: No

CERTAIN OTHER LINKS: Hell No

Neither of these would be accepted by me.

There is no point in explaining why because it has been covered to many times.

[XPorn]

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=25191

[Surfn]

Another lame thread. Doesn't anyone know how to use the board search function?

[Linkster]

that would be a fun one to play with - if ya check the whois and look at his email contact - then check the whois for that email domain - then look at the NS, you can buy the domain the nameserver is listed as LOL

[Yahook]

And I still think its the stupidest concern I have ever seen

Linkster, I know what you think about it. I don't want to check whois, it's the same for me who is the owner of this domain.

And I want to ask about another thing that I've seen in the recips. I think all recips must be made with with permanent background and permanent link text. But some linklist owners sometimes forget about this and it looks like hidden text on some free sites. Please tell me what do you think about it?

[Linkster]

Yahook - as far as recips and hidden links - I treat it the same way I treat any other hidden link on a free site - the submitter gets banned - if they dont take the time to check their sites to see if the recip text color is the same as the background, then I dont have a real good feeling that they are serious about being in the biz - just like checking all of the other things to make sure they fall within the "standard LL rules"

[Yahook]

One mistake and submitter gets banned? This is not mistake of submitter, this is mistake of linklist owner. But do not list this site is right I think.

[Linkster]

Yahook - I have yet to see a LL owner that made their recips with hidden text - except for a few dishonest cheats that did it on purpose. Otherwise - I believe the submitter is responsible for checking the layout of their own site not the LL owner that provides the recip. Of course - most of the problems Ive seen like the case you describe come from autosubmitter software databases that import the recips incorrectly and the idiots that use the software never check their pages anyway

[KG Gary]

Originally Posted by Yahook

One mistake and submitter gets banned? This is not mistake of submitter, this is mistake of linklist owner. But do not list this site is right I think.

The mistake may be in the code supplied by the LL owner, but if you are submitting a site as your own then surely it's common sense to ensure everything is working properly including text that is accidently hidden.
I assume because it's the submitter's site it's his/her responsibility to make it listworthy.

[KG Gary]

My apologies, Linkster. I must have been typing at the same time as you.

[Yahook]

The conclusion: submitters must check their database for this errors. There must be permanent background color and permanent link color. If not - there can be problems on some combinations of link color or background color with this recips and site will not be accepted or even domain will be banned by some owners.

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by Yahook

The conclusion: submitters must check their database for this errors. There must be permanent background color and permanent link color. If not - there can be problems on some combinations of link color or background color with this recips and site will not be accepted or even domain will be banned by some owners.

The Conclusion, do not use auto submitters and do the work yourself

[MadMax]

Yahook, why is it that every thread you start or post in seems to be an excuse for you to tell all the LL owners here that we're unreasonable and unfair? Do you really believe that we're all dishonest and unreasonable? If so why bother posting here?

Our submitters seem to like us just fine...they build good sites that follow our rules, we send them traffic. I don't see submitters complaining about any of the things you go out of your way to bring up, and there are certainly plenty of them here. I wonder why the submitters never jump in when you're piling on us about how unfair we are...nobody with more than 20 posts ever seems to agree with you, and you seem to think that every LL in the world should list any piece of shit that rolls into the submit que.

I've tried to stay out of this until now because I'm not a big fan of drama, but the more I see the harder it becomes to hold my tongue. This thread is nothing more than another attempt on your part to wave around your "holier than thou" attitude.

[sue-fl]

Very well said madmax!! I have been thinking from reading his posts that he does like to bash LL's owners. It's almost like he's asking for all the cheaters to come submit at his sites. In the long run won't that just cause his surfers to get pissed and stop going there?

I have to say I don't have a problem with the rules I have to follow when I submit. They are common sense, nothing unreasonable that I have come across as far as submitting my sites.

It has been posted on here so many times that if you don't like the rules don't submit it's that easy. I also agree with the LL's owners who have rules the way they want as they own the sites and do all the work on them. We just submit the sites that is the easy part.

All I can say to why he keeps posting this shit and tries to keep the threads going is

[Yahook]

The Conclusion, do not use auto submitters and do the work yourself

I don't like autosubmitters. But I don't think it's good idea to fill all the fields manually, it's monkey job

I just post my own opinion

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Yahook, why is it that every thread you start or post in seems to be an excuse for you to tell all the LL owners here that we're unreasonable and unfair? Do you really believe that we're all dishonest and unreasonable? If so why bother posting here?

Our submitters seem to like us just fine...they build good sites that follow our rules, we send them traffic. I don't see submitters complaining about any of the things you go our of your way to bring up, and there are certainly plenty of them here. I wonder why the submitters never jump in when you're piling on us about how unfair we are...nobody with more than 20 posts ever seems to agree with you, and you seem to think that every LL in the world should list any piece of shit that rolls into the submit que.

I've tried to stay out of this until now because I'm not a big fan of drama, but the more I see the harder it becomes to hold my tongue. This thread is nothing more than another attempt on your part to wave around your "holier than thou" attitude.

That needed to be said again...well done Max

I've tried to stay out of the Yahook threads too...well, other than a bit of jesting in another thread

Really don't know whether he's trying to get link site owners to change their rules. Or, he's trying to find clear ground to train his 'team' so their sites get more acceptance...perhaps because some of them don't speak english and he's translating rules for them

It's pretty obvious to me that well over half the sites I decline every night are from eastern block submitters. Tons of blind links, bogus whois, known bad hosts, mature vs young crap, too close to the edge teen sites...etc.. Or, the same damn template over and over and over again

What seems to elude him is that our link sites are exactly that...OUR link sites. We get to decide what we list and what we don't...it's not up for debate to make things easier for his team.

If a webmaster has a question about why a site was declined, they can find out by coming here and asking as an individual. Something just doesn't smell right about Yahook coming here and in pretty much every thread apparently trying to change the game to fit his 'team'.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Yahook

I don't like autosubmitters. But I don't think it's good idea to fill all the fields manually, it's monkey job

I just post my own opinion

I notice you didn't bother responding to my post.

Hit a bit close to home, did I?

[Yahook]

MadMax, I don't try to change your mind and I don't try to protect cheaters. But I think I can also post my own opinion here.

[MeatPounder]

Hell in a lot of ways I do not like auto submitters, but I do use Russian submitter to flood the vast array of croatian and belarusian lists and tgps. I am listed with many of my semi fake tgps with them just for the backlinks.

But I do LOVE advanced submitter. I have stayed out of the auto submitter threads for I know how they are despised among many of the top link list owners.

I create my own submittal lists in advanced submiter, and go through each one on a regualar basis, checking what is filled in. Many link lists and tgps set hidden fields and if they see this hidden field filled...say name=auto fill subname=real submitters name and if they find the name field filled they KNOW it was auto submitted or at least filled with a tool...so I check to see whats fillled constantly, and adjust...I manually submit EVERYTHING with advanced submitter but use it as a tool to auto fill decriptions...up to 12 different ones on some of my submits save passwords etc. And advanced brings me to the submital pages 10 at a time.
ANY webmaster that does not want auto submits can catch them and ban them, but if you do the work you can prove to them that.

I submit to over 150 link lists manually, but with the assists of advanced submitter...I optimize each page, changing all off them to some degree. A lot of work, but worth it.

Every single free site I submit manually with advance submiters help, I send alternate traffic to in some way...perhaps by a gallery link, an offlink from a hub, a homemade sponsor tour...but I mix and match to a great degree...
But too the point Yahook, it may be a monkeys job, but to me and all the link list owners we submit to...it is well worth it.

To some one who is throwing up circle jerks and tons of fake link lists...sure
But to some one whom the site is their pride and joy how can you slight them by passing their site off as just another site.
Most of the link list owners you find, at least the top ones, you willl find their sites are VERY important to them, they have spent hours developing them, promoting the, and you come in promoting generic circle jerks...sigh

[Yahook]

MeatPounder, this is the thing I was talking about. I think it's normal to use submitter software, to make your own database, to fill all fields automatically but submit manually to each linklist. It will save a lot of submitter's time and protect them from "monkey job".

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Yahook

MeatPounder, this is the thing I was talking about. I think it's normal to use submitter software, to make your own database, to fill all fields automatically but submit manually to each linklist. It will save a lot of submitter's time and protect them from "monkey job".

That's one of the reasons you and your gang are being banned

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Madmax

I've tried to stay out of this until now because I'm not a big fan of drama, but the more I see the harder it becomes to hold my tongue.

I'm sorry, but reading these Yahook posts and their replies is like looking at an MC Escher picture to me. Your eyes go round and round and somehow, illogically you end up exactly where you started at.

[Yahook]

Surfn, you're the only guy in my ignore list, don't waste your time and don't write anything for me