Free Sites On Sponsor Host?

Tekster · 2007-02-18, 06:53 AM

If the sponsor offers free hosting, is it ok to build free sites and host them there? Would they get accepted by LL? (Example would be Silvercash since they offer content and free hosting)

I probably know the answer (No Free Hosting) but I figured I ask to make sure.

Mateusz · 2007-02-18, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TekAngel

I probably know the answer

Yes you know it

Hosting your free sites on any kind of free/revshare host is easiest way to get declined and most likely banned

mihai · 2007-02-18, 07:46 PM

what Mateusz said

MrYum · 2007-02-18, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mateusz

Yes you know it

Hosting your free sites on any kind of free/revshare host is easiest way to get declined and most likely banned

You'll find that answer is true pretty much across the board with link sites.

Mr Spock · 2007-02-19, 01:21 AM

I believe if you are using sponsor hosting and the the domain you submit from is yourdomain.sponsor.com then you will be declined everywhere - makes sense as no LL accept submits from a sub-domain.

However, what is the case with sponsor hosting where you are using your own TLD and are merely using the sponsors servers, your submitting domain being: your domain.com.

I would imagine that under that scenario you should be able to submit to LL and get listed?

Tekster · 2007-02-19, 04:36 AM

Thanks All,

I got it, no free hosts, of any kind. I thought so but my answer lady was not around to ask for the last couple of days.

Greenguy · 2007-02-19, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

...However, what is the case with sponsor hosting where you are using your own TLD and are merely using the sponsors servers, your submitting domain being: your domain.com...

No. Sponsor Hosted = Free Hosted in the eyes of most LL's.

MrYum · 2007-02-19, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

I believe if you are using sponsor hosting and the the domain you submit from is yourdomain.sponsor.com then you will be declined everywhere - makes sense as no LL accept submits from a sub-domain.

However, what is the case with sponsor hosting where you are using your own TLD and are merely using the sponsors servers, your submitting domain being: your domain.com.

I would imagine that under that scenario you should be able to submit to LL and get listed?

Nope, that doesn't fly either.

As Greenie mentioned...free hosting is free hosting, no matter whether it's on your own domain or not. And it is something that's checked by most all reviewers.

hjnet · 2007-02-19, 11:07 AM

And considering that most sponsors buy the cheapest bandwidth they could get you'll most likely loose more money due to longer loading times, routing issues or other stuff than you'd gain by saving a few $$$ for your own server.

Kenny B! · 2007-02-19, 03:23 PM

If the sponsor offers to host your domain on their server then you are not using sponsor hosted galleries, just the sponsor for your hosting. And I don't think anyone will decline you for that, just use a full domain and not a sub domain.

There are some sponsors that will do this for you

Linkster · 2007-02-19, 03:32 PM

Kenny - you need to read the thread again - LLs will NOT accept domains hosted on sponsors hosting - no ifs ands or buts

It doenst matter if its a subdomain, a real domain or a domain they transfer over - No sponsor hosting at all

/added - its the easiest and fastest way to get put on the blacklist

emmanuelle · 2007-02-19, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

And considering that most sponsors buy the cheapest bandwidth they could get you'll most likely loose more money due to longer loading times, routing issues or other stuff than you'd gain by saving a few $$$ for your own server.

I take offense to that. While it's not the least bit related to this thread, I gladly pay for premium hosting, as do most other program owners that I know personally. Servers that run flawlessly are crucial to my business. I cannot imagine where you dug up this little gem of misinformation.

Greenguy · 2007-02-19, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I take offense to that. While it's not the least bit related to this thread, I gladly pay for premium hosting, as do most other program owners that I know personally. Servers that run flawlessly are crucial to my business. I cannot imagine where you dug up this little gem of misinformation.

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the bandwidth & servers some sponsors use for their "free" sponsor hosting option.

Kenny B! · 2007-02-19, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

Kenny - you need to read the thread again - LLs will NOT accept domains hosted on sponsors hosting - no ifs ands or buts

It doenst matter if its a subdomain, a real domain or a domain they transfer over - No sponsor hosting at all

/added - its the easiest and fastest way to get put on the blacklist

Really? I had no idea! Just out of curiosity how would a LL owner know who is hosing the domain?

Greenguy · 2007-02-19, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Really? I had no idea! Just out of curiosity how would a LL owner know who is hosing the domain?

If we told you that, you'd then start looking for ways around it & then we'd have to figure those out & then you'd try to find new ways around it.....

Kenny B! · 2007-02-19, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

If we told you that, you'd then start looking for ways around it & then we'd have to figure those out & then you'd try to find new ways around it.....

I'm not looking to cheat anyone, just curious how it would be possible to verify who's paying the hosting bill.

Greenguy · 2007-02-19, 04:15 PM

You might not be looking, but who knows who's reading this thread

Linkster · 2007-02-19, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I take offense to that. While it's not the least bit related to this thread, I gladly pay for premium hosting, as do most other program owners that I know personally. Servers that run flawlessly are crucial to my business. I cannot imagine where you dug up this little gem of misinformation.

I agree with Greenie above - the hosting that most programs use for thier "sponsored domain hosting" and revshare hosting just plain sucks - I can think of 2 programs right off the top that do not suck - every other one Ive seen (and monitored) are up and down like a (fill in the blank with a catchy phrase)

hjnet · 2007-02-20, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I take offense to that. While it's not the least bit related to this thread, I gladly pay for premium hosting, as do most other program owners that I know personally. Servers that run flawlessly are crucial to my business. I cannot imagine where you dug up this little gem of misinformation.

I've written "most" and not "all", so there are for sure some exceptions, but from my personal experience with some big programs I have to say that most of them use cogent for their free hosting. But I've mostly used sponsor free hosting for movie galleries in the past, so I didn't have a problem with that.
But a FreeSite doesn't eat up much BW anyway, so it's not worth to take the risk and put it on a free host IMHO.

biztro · 2007-02-20, 12:39 PM

I have no problems with freesites on free hosting. As long as its online it nor changed since validated it will be listed.

fresh · 2007-02-20, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

Kenny - you need to read the thread again - LLs will NOT accept domains hosted on sponsors hosting - no ifs ands or buts

It doenst matter if its a subdomain, a real domain or a domain they transfer over - No sponsor hosting at all

/added - its the easiest and fastest way to get put on the blacklist

how do they know its sponsor hosting? I have a sponsor hosting at one sponsor- dns shows very reliable and expensive host.

Linkster · 2007-02-20, 01:09 PM

fresh - read post 15

fresh · 2007-02-20, 01:22 PM

but still what i wanted to say-sometimes sponsor hosting is better then 50% of paid hosting used by submitters

Greenguy · 2007-02-20, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh

but still what i wanted to say-sometimes sponsor hosting is better then 50% of paid hosting used by submitters

While I wouldn't say it's 50%, I will say that I agree with you, which is why there's a lot of hosting companies that are blacklisted as well.

Tekster · 2007-02-20, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh

how do they know its sponsor hosting? I have a sponsor hosting at one sponsor- dns shows very reliable and expensive host.

So take a chance that the LL owner will not notice or ban you from further submissions?

I don't think so. If most of the LL owners say NO FREE HOSTING, I think it is perfectly clear that should be NO FREE HOSTING. (Boy, what did I start here?)

As far as I am concerned, I will keep on making my sites and host them on my paid host, if the LL owner is happy, I am happy, and all is good. Why screw up a good thing?

2007-02-18, 06:53 AM	#1
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2007-02-18, 07:46 PM	#3
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2007-02-19, 04:36 AM	#6
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2007-02-20, 01:22 PM	#23
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