Hiring someone to build/submit...Good or bad?

[HC-Majick]

Just curious on LL owners thoughts...

Say I run a small program and build/submit freesites regularly....I hire someone (different location and ip) to also build/submit freesites for my program but I host their domain/freesites on my server.

Acceptable or not?

[NY Jester]

Im going to let the owners answer fully, but wouldnt that just be like "you" creating sites from a different IP? I think that may break the 1 site 1 domain rule per webmaster/company per day..or at least it seems like it would.


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[LeRoy]

I was thinking of starting a thread like this. Glad you did HC-Majick

I'm an the fence about having someone submit for me. Tried it with a friend but it didn't work out. I'll let people build them for me though.

[secretagentwilly]

See, I'd like to just create my sites and have someone submit for me...I wouldn't trust anyone to come up with good enough text and if you're outsourcing your free site production to India or something, you're definitely not going to get good text...you'll get great designs but terrible text...and as far as trying to do it with your buddies, I've found that no one in my circle can be dedicated enough to keep up with me...it's a toughie...it sure would be nice to have a clone of myself to run my porn operation... =)

[stuveltje]

lazy bums|shocking|

[HC-Majick]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

lazy bums|shocking|

Ahhh Stu.... you didn't read close enough...

The program owner builds/submits freesites AND also has another person build/submit sites for them using a domain hosted on the program owners server...

I guess my point is... Is this really any different than the "bathroom buddies, I'm hosting his domain because he doesn't have a credit card, we are different people, submitters" that get posted in the cheaters forum?

[bDok]

My guess is it would need to be on a different server and not hosted on the same server.

On the link lists I have coming this is what I would want to see at least.

[Mateusz]

http://www.linkforsex.com - One submission per webmaster or webmaster group per day

http://www.link-o-rama.com - No more than 1 link request per webmaster/company per day

I thinks its all clear - unless you work out some kind of a deal most link lists will accept only one submission per 'group'

And now for some
I've been building free sites for myself as well as for major & smaller sponsors since couple of years - if you need some templates and/or complete free sites hit me up and I'm sure we will work something out
I can only build - you will have to submit them yourself

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by HC-Majick

Ahhh Stu.... you didn't read close enough...

The program owner builds/submits freesites AND also has another person build/submit sites for them using a domain hosted on the program owners server...

I guess my point is... Is this really any different than the "bathroom buddies, I'm hosting his domain because he doesn't have a credit card, we are different people, submitters" that get posted in the cheaters forum?

mmmmmm oke my mistake, but then that option and i know about that because i did the same one time (more times even), and i also mention it one the board here, i think they exepted this deal from me because i hanged around and they knew me, well i would never do that again, i will never lett a guy get hosted on my stuff and submit sites, no fucking way, it will bring shit, even you know the person a long time, helping a person is always good, but i have learned from that, so nop i wont accept the same guy on the same shit you have, and thats not to hit you, its just from my own experience, being is this bizz is not just something you do, if you want in this bizz, you will do all to get in this...i can talk more bullshit, but i have bin there and done that and learned from it

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Mateusz

http://www.linkforsex.com - One submission per webmaster or webmaster group per day

http://www.link-o-rama.com - No more than 1 link request per webmaster/company per day

I thinks its all clear - unless you work out some kind of a deal most link lists will accept only one submission per 'group'

you are right, but all know exceptions are made, as long you have the permission of the linksite owners, but like i said in my post before this one, i have learned from my experience and i wont except it, even i know the person

[stuveltje]

oke call me stupid but didnt your title said: Hiring someone to build/submit...Good or bad?

so whats your deal, you are hiring someone to build and submit sites for you, or are you giving a person a favor by giving him your bandtwidth and host because he doesnt have a creditcard, either way..........your title say it all i think, hehehehe stu has one of her bright moments now

[HC-Majick]

It did Stu.... not a very good title, but I couldn't decide how best to word it.

Mateusz - I said "me" as the program owner just to use as an example... but thanks for the spam.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by HC-Majick

It did Stu.... not a very good title, but I couldn't decide how best to word it.

he he, i have that problem too, but then i live in holland a totally different language there, i write a long story which can be explained in 2 sentences (did i write that right?), but you life in usa? if so, you cant have an excuse
Ps: hell great to post around again, makes me think how to write all in english and fun to make the usa people confused with my writing

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

lazy bums|shocking|

I just got called a lazy bum hmmm ok .stuveltje come in my world just for a moment and you'll quickly recant your comment. I am a small program owner that needs to delegate certain tasks that I am not good at. When I first got into this biz I met with SilvercashAlbert who referred me to the GG & Jim forum. The one thing he said to me that stuck "Find something your good at" . I'm good at sales. The design part needs to be left to the designers. Besides as a small program owner I need to get content, manage content, work deals on the boards, go to shows,get some girls to do some sites,find guys do to the girls, seek out other niche content providers to become diverse. update my paysites by hand, guide my designer in the right direction and submit to LL's and TGP's by hand.

Now being a newbie money is tight. I have a full-time mainstream job 10-3 to keep food on the table. So.... Before you go calling small program owners lazy bums. You should realize the time it takes to get one of these things off the ground. And to think most of them go down in flames shortly after they open. I would like to stay and have fun with you guys. So mid forum post decision I think I will make an executive "Good Decision" . I'm going to train someone to submit my titles and descriptions to All LL's . Any objections LL owners ? Let me know I'll submit to you by hand like always

Anyway . Are there any LL's that have countries like India and the Phillipines IP addresses blocked ? I'm half Filipino so don't hate

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by D2222

I just got called a lazy bum hmmm ok .stuveltje come in my world just for a moment and you'll quickly recant your comment. I am a small program owner that needs to delegate certain tasks that I am not good at. When I first got into this biz I met with SilvercashAlbert who referred me to the GG & Jim forum. The one thing he said to me that stuck "Find something your good at" . I'm good at sales. The design part needs to be left to the designers. Besides as a small program owner I need to get content, manage content, work deals on the boards, go to shows,get some girls to do some sites,find guys do to the girls, seek out other niche content providers to become diverse. update my paysites by hand, guide my designer in the right direction and submit to LL's and TGP's by hand.

Now being a newbie money is tight. I have a full-time mainstream job 10-3 to keep food on the table. So.... Before you go calling small program owners lazy bums. You should realize the time it takes to get one of these things off the ground. And to think most of them go down in flames shortly after they open. I would like to stay and have fun with you guys. So mid forum post decision I think I will make an executive "Good Decision" . I'm going to train someone to submit my titles and descriptions to All LL's . Any objections LL owners ? Let me know I'll submit to you by hand like always

Anyway . Are there any LL's that have countries like India and the Phillipines IP addresses blocked ? I'm half Filipino so don't hate

so by reading your answer i was in your world, or maybe i was already in your world before you posted, i do know how adult bizz work, heay i was a newbie (and sometimes am) ones too and about the busy things, that will never go away, if you are in this bizz with or without having an other job you will stay busy like hell, something i have found out in being own boss in adult bizz is, that i work more hours then i did when i was working for a real boss, an yep, here the bills need to be paid too and i have a job as a 24 hour mom and wife. so i still may say lazy bums
And i have no problem with people who train other people to submit for them as long it stays at one submit a day and its mentioned by the real owner on the board