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Old 2006-10-14, 09:25 AM   #1
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Question How do u submit freesites?

Do u do it manually with duplicating index etc. or u use some program to help you with it like advanced submitter.
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Old 2006-10-14, 10:42 AM   #2
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Do u do it manually with duplicating index etc. or u use some program to help you with it like advanced submitter.
I'd strongly recommend not using an autosubmitter for link lists...it'll land you on blacklists in short order. Actually, from the sites I've seen...not even sure I'd trust it to build the recip pages. Almost all the script generated recip pages I've seen looked like crap

Once you get your recip tables set up, it's a pretty simply matter to drop them into your html to duplicate the index. And ALWAYS double check those page before submitting...it's amazing how many decent sites I see that have recip links almost the same color as the page bg. These are obviously submitters that aren't checking their sites before submission
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Old 2006-10-14, 02:23 PM   #3
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I'd strongly recommend not using an autosubmitter for link lists...it'll land you on blacklists in short order. Actually, from the sites I've seen...not even sure I'd trust it to build the recip pages. Almost all the script generated recip pages I've seen looked like crap

Once you get your recip tables set up, it's a pretty simply matter to drop them into your html to duplicate the index. And ALWAYS double check those page before submitting...it's amazing how many decent sites I see that have recip links almost the same color as the page bg. These are obviously submitters that aren't checking their sites before submission
Ok but its always an option to submit to linklists manually, submitter dotn mean that it will autosubmit to all LL, maybe only to smaller ones. What is wrong with this recips?
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Old 2006-10-14, 03:14 PM   #4
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Ok but its always an option to submit to linklists manually, submitter dotn mean that it will autosubmit to all LL, maybe only to smaller ones. What is wrong with this recips?
While small LLs are greatful for every quality site coming their way, they get just as pissed as everyone else when rules are blatantly disregarded and submissions look like crap.
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Old 2006-10-14, 03:24 PM   #5
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While small LLs are greatful for every quality site coming their way, they get just as pissed as everyone else when rules are blatantly disregarded and submissions look like crap.
I second that
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Old 2006-10-14, 03:27 PM   #6
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I'd caution against treating the smaller lists that way. They'll blacklist you just as easliy, and there's not telling which small lists will grow to med/large lists. If the list is so small that you're willing to treat it like shit, you might as well not submit to them at all until they're large enough to be worth your attention.

Btw, when I do get around to building a freesite, I submit to over (last count) 90 LL's, each one gets a custom text recip, and I submit to each individually.

I have a great respect for all those LLs that give me backlinks.
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Old 2006-10-14, 03:27 PM   #7
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While small LLs are greatful for every quality site coming their way, they get just as pissed as everyone else when rules are blatantly disregarded and submissions look like crap.
I third!

Guess I took too long writing my extra-wordy reply.
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Old 2006-10-14, 03:50 PM   #8
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1. Ok i have next question about build of freesite, folders,
how do u make folders fro your freesites? like:

lesbian(for niche)/lesbian-pussy-sex(for uniq freesite folder - freesite name)/licking-pussy/(one of many folders for making mirror index pages, duplicates/(and there now index.html etc.)
Or do u make this last folders for index dupliacates 1,2 words that is connect to main keyword- freesite name like to "free lesbian sex" it will fit keyword: "video", so it will be like lesbian/free-lesbian-sex/video/(files).

Do u think is it a good planning? How with positing keywords, if your freesite name is Lesbian Pussy Sex do u positing only this keyword on all duplicated index pages main galleries?

Or u make sth different like if pages are under folder licking-pussy u positing this keyword ("licking pussy") not "lesbian pussy sex" that is freesite name?

Or do you then connect this 2 keywords so title and h1 on top will be "Lesbians licking pussy sex" ?

How do u target keywords?


2. Next question, I know that warning page must be index, but what with main and galleries can i rename main page to some keyword like: "wet-lesbian-dildo.html" for gallery 1: "free-lesbian-sex-teen.html" for gallery 2: "free-lesbian-sex-site.html" ?

Can I also rename ads to some lesbian keywords, and images thumbs on galleries? Can i rename also alt to some keywords, alt to thumbs also? But isnt it too much to rename everything to some keywords? Where is the limit?

If freesites get much traffic from SE I would like to exploit as much as i can possibilities to positing more than 1 keywords.

Example if i will make 5 lesbian freesites i will have 5 keywords posited and + dozens of links from high ranked linklists i can get good pr..


3. And how do u positing some keword phrase? Where u repeat this keyword and how often in 1 page? Title and desc and h1, but do u place also keywords in links?


4. What size should be image(at least width height, max width height average in big linklists) and thumb(width height). What progrma do u use to make nice thumbs? 20-30 images per freesite is cool?


5. How many links to sponor is max for page 2,3?


6. Is it ok to submit several days and even 1 week same niche freesites with same template text onyl different pictures and freesite title? Or I must to change template every day, or cant submit same niche day after day? Is it any limit? To how many niches do u submit, what niches work best for you (ratio)?


7. Can u give me links to biggest link lists?


Heh i think its all for now ;p
Thanks for any help any answers i will really appreciate it if someone could clarify me this affairs.

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Old 2006-10-14, 06:05 PM   #9
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I wonder if maybe better idea of foldering is like for keyword "group lesbian sex" make just folders like:
group-lesbian-sex1/(files)
group-lesbian-sex2/(files)
group-lesbian-sex3/(files)
group-lesbian-sex4/(files)
group-lesbian-sex5/(files)
group-lesbian-sex6/(files)
group-lesbian-sex7/(files)
group-lesbian-sex8/(files)
group-lesbian-sex9/(files)
group-lesbian-sex10/(files)
...and so on...

and make main page: free-group-lesbian-sex.html, gallery 1 to in example group-het-lesbian-sex.html, gallery 2 group-lesbian-sex-pics.html
What do u think about this, is it not too over using this keyword to repeat in folder and filenames?
And naming catalogs like name1, name2 is allowed?

or maybe better instead of number make new folders like
group-lesbian-sex/video/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/strap/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/black/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/ass/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/free/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/hot/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/party/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/free-video/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/teens/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/hard/(files)

?

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Old 2006-10-15, 05:16 PM   #10
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I wonder if maybe better idea of foldering is like for keyword "group lesbian sex" make just folders like:
group-lesbian-sex1/(files)
group-lesbian-sex2/(files)
group-lesbian-sex3/(files)
group-lesbian-sex4/(files)
group-lesbian-sex5/(files)
group-lesbian-sex6/(files)
group-lesbian-sex7/(files)
group-lesbian-sex8/(files)
group-lesbian-sex9/(files)
group-lesbian-sex10/(files)
...and so on...

and make main page: free-group-lesbian-sex.html, gallery 1 to in example group-het-lesbian-sex.html, gallery 2 group-lesbian-sex-pics.html
What do u think about this, is it not too over using this keyword to repeat in folder and filenames?
And naming catalogs like name1, name2 is allowed?

or maybe better instead of number make new folders like
group-lesbian-sex/video/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/strap/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/black/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/ass/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/free/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/hot/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/party/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/free-video/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/teens/(files)
group-lesbian-sex/hard/(files)

?
There's always been talk about the SE's not liking duplication, course depends on how much. You could always go for my keywords, sure would'nt hurt. When I see folders and long keyword type page names it does look spammy to me, but just my opinion.. To me it would be better to focus on one keyword/phrase and build on that.

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Old 2006-10-15, 07:27 PM   #11
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What's limit for number of recips on idnex page, 9 12 16 or 20 max?? Cause i read many rules from LL and didnt see any montion about number of recips required maximum
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Old 2006-10-15, 08:10 PM   #12
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What's limit for number of recips on idnex page, 9 12 16 or 20 max?? Cause i read many rules from LL and didnt see any montion about number of recips required maximum
9-12 is a good amount.

If you're using custom text recips, and make them nice and clean, you might be able to push it up to 16-20.

Any more than 20 and the page starts getting too cluttered. |shocking|
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Old 2006-10-17, 09:42 AM   #13
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Can anyone answer to my previous questions? Thanks.
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Old 2006-10-17, 10:05 AM   #14
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Most of those answers can be found among LL rules or within this board. You just have to look.

When you are new its overwhelming and I understand. Honestly, I say read thru this board & the submit rules again. Take a look at what sites are listed at Link-O-Rama and how they are structured. Do not copy but use them as a guideline. Piece one together and then graciously post it for review, before you submit, and get feedback.

I have given this advice to one person that I know actually followed it and he is doing just fine

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Old 2006-10-17, 02:27 PM   #15
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Ok thanks for advice
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Old 2006-11-01, 07:28 PM   #16
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back when I was submitting freesites (2 years ago). I submitted with Advanced Submitter manually and I spent a week making new textlinks recips for each tgp.
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Old 2006-11-02, 02:48 AM   #17
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you could try : Adam LinkLists Submitter -> www.adamsubmitter.com
you have to manually edit DB - but it's very handy tool
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