Building an Adult Cam Site - Page 2

phatbiatch · 2004-07-11, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Bill
That webcamxp looks great. I'm definitely going to keep that in mind.

I have a bunch more questions myself, but I'm going to wait and see if camhunniez comes back with more more questions of her own.

And it would be great to hear from more camshow deliverers.

Phatbiatch, you said:
"I've been a chathost for over two years on several sites, iFriends, ImLive, Tricams/Homesex Network and I find from a chathost perspective having a setup where you validate the users credit cards for say $1 and then they are free to search the site and pay per minute is better in the long run."

Where does the software come from that lets you do that kind of per-minute charging?

What's involved in becoming a camgirl, and how much does it cost to get started?

Um ifriends and tricams both have proprietary software that you broadcast your cam through. I don't know much about what software is being run on their servers. Actually iFriends offers alot of options, media encoder, helix, ifcam, or easycam (new flash-based). LOL I'm sorry I don't have more knowledge on the technical side, but all of the sites are Java-based. ImLive incorporates Eyeball chat into their programming.

To become a chathost on any site costs $0, most take 50% of your earnings for allowing you to host cam there,plus ifriends keeps a running 10% reserve for any chargebacks that may occur within 6 months. They do start paying the money back to the hosts after 6 months. Out of pocket expense would be for a fairly inexpensive webcam. Logitech QuickCam comes to mind LOL. The plus side of working on a big site is there is built in traffic, payment processing, shopping cart system and basic privacy protection, and they handle all aspects of customer service.

Now, if you wanted to offer pay per minute cam shows on your own there is that webcamxp, coffeecup webcam 3.0 (i think), webcam32, and I personally use Inetcam.com. For a personal license it was $40, and it can generate an applet that you can paste right into your site BAM you have a personal cam site. Inetcam offers a commercial license solution as well, so they can fit everyone's needs. Problem is now how does the independent cam girl process payments? iBill, CCBill, and the big guys won't let you take cam payments so the girls are left with places like Ikobo, Money bookers, Storm Pay, Pay Direct (which does not permit adult) and various other offshore payment processors that popped up within the last 8 months. I don't use any of them, cause I basically use my personal cam setup for my phone/cam customers on another site.

Those who might be interested in running a Studio, ImLive offers a setup where you can be an ImLive Host Agent & have girls work for you under one account but is limited to 5 hosts. iFriends also allows cam studios to open up shop on there, there are quite a few eastern European studios operating on there.

ImLive Host Agent

phatbiatch · 2004-07-11, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexshark
No, nothing to do with them, I just worked for 3 sites that use their system so far.

I have issues with that whole setup.

alexshark · 2004-07-11, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phatbiatch
I have issues with that whole setup.

Serverwise or clientwise?

phatbiatch · 2004-07-12, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexshark
Serverwise or clientwise?

With how it's a turnkey style camsite. The same exact formula is used for every site that uses this software. I have no problems with the software. What I have a problem with is that any jerk out on the net can see the girls, even when they are in a private show. And how they promise to pay performers $10 an hr for working there, which is a complete scam. If I'm wrong and not all sites that buy their software operate in the same way then I apologize. It's just that I worked on their site and it was a bunch of B/S then about 6 months after that a new website popped up and some other cam girl tried to get me to work on there and I wasn't having it because it was the same exact scam.

So if cam sites are opening using their software and using their own format for paying performers and attracting customers then fine. But I'm not generally in the habit of endorsing scammers and the products they peddle.

alexshark · 2004-07-12, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phatbiatch
With how it's a turnkey style camsite. The same exact formula is used for every site that uses this software. I have no problems with the software. What I have a problem with is that any jerk out on the net can see the girls, even when they are in a private show. And how they promise to pay performers $10 an hr for working there, which is a complete scam. If I'm wrong and not all sites that buy their software operate in the same way then I apologize. It's just that I worked on their site and it was a bunch of B/S then about 6 months after that a new website popped up and some other cam girl tried to get me to work on there and I wasn't having it because it was the same exact scam.

So if cam sites are opening using their software and using their own format for paying performers and attracting customers then fine. But I'm not generally in the habit of endorsing scammers and the products they peddle.

Sorry which site are you talking about?
MaxCams?
I think that one is the only one "paying" $10/hour and I never tired it. It's not a default firecracker thing. Also the fact that they see you when in pvt (in small size) is a setting that can normally be turned off bu the performer.
I mean it's not a software issue, it's all about the people that operate the sites.
Have a go at livejasmin.com. They use FC but no private preview and no fake $10/hour. Also the traffic is very good.

phatbiatch · 2004-07-14, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexshark
Sorry which site are you talking about?
MaxCams?
I think that one is the only one "paying" $10/hour and I never tired it. It's not a default firecracker thing. Also the fact that they see you when in pvt (in small size) is a setting that can normally be turned off bu the performer.
I mean it's not a software issue, it's all about the people that operate the sites.
Have a go at livejasmin.com. They use FC but no private preview and no fake $10/hour. Also the traffic is very good.

I was talking about Girl Time and he has a couple of mirror sites. Yea the private preview is real tiny and what not, it's the free preview that bugged me. It's normal size for one, and guys hardly paid for shows on there. LOTS AND LOTS of traffic but few buyers, and lots of assholes and freebie chasers.

But I think you misunderstood me Alex, I never had a problem with their software just they way the guy runs his site. I had considered buying the software once

CamHunniez · 2004-07-16, 01:13 PM

thanx everyone for the debating back and forth, helps me to understand and determine what's better than what... I appreciate it... especially you phatbiatch, you brought alot of options to mind

basically, the membership that we're creating will start out as just a model site... we'll feature videos and schedule webcam shows during the week, but first we'll start with pictures... with a small monthly fee (19.95), so guys can get used to the girls, used to seeing them... then gradually bring in more features and then introducing more girls month by month, ultimately raising the price of the monthly access, which will end up being 39.95 when we're featuring the scheduled webcam shows (we'll use an outside program to start with: msn or im logitech)... good idea or does it need a lil tweaking?

the advertising is not a problem, the traffic acquiring won't be a problem, getting the word out will be virtually easy because of the ties and partnerships we have.. we're just gonna hold off on the webcam site for a lil while, because of the cost... that's why we're makng a membership site, that will generate profit we'll use towards creating the webcam site in a later date, possibly a year or two.... we'll have girls licensed with us, so when we do put forth the webcam site, we'll already have girls ready to go

for now, the focus is getting the membership site started and keeping it successful enough to complete a dominant webcam site in the future or sooner if possibe, because we believe in supplying girls with their worth... so in the long run, we will definitely hope to get a minute-per-minute service where girls can actually make almost, if not, more than a thousand a day with us... providing there are many members, and that all falls on the shoulders of our advertisement, which we'll be getting a healthy dose of with the membership site and the dedication to getting-the-word-out that everyone possesses; hopefully achieving loyal fans for our women

I was reading up on a potential web host, so I want to inquire about a few things that I read on there, so that I have a complete understanding of everything....anyone that can describe these things in detail (i.e. what it means, how it helps, is it really good or just sub par, etc... any information is appreciated)

Apache Web Server
Searchable Database
Multiple Speed Broadband Video
Customized Templates
DVD video captures
No Upsell
Java Video 100% compatible

and gig transfers... anyone care to explain what they're for? I'm not entirely sure, so I want to get exact input about it, rather than assuming...

again, thank you to everyone consistently replying here, helping me get a better understanding of things to come

phatbiatch · 2004-07-20, 09:00 PM

Cool, you're welcome, lol at least my webcam girl experience is able to help someone else with providing some insight.

alexshark · 2004-07-21, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamHunniez
I have a complete understanding of everything....anyone that can describe these things in detail (i.e. what it means, how it helps, is it really good or just sub par, etc... any information is appreciated)

Apache Web Server
Searchable Database
Multiple Speed Broadband Video
Customized Templates
DVD video captures
No Upsell
Java Video 100% compatible

and gig transfers... anyone care to explain what they're for? I'm not entirely sure, so I want to get exact input about it, rather than assuming...

Sorry I am not trying to be an asshole but are you really gonna start such project without knowing what these things are?

Anyway:

Apache Web Server - http://www.apache.org

Searchable Database - http://www.mysql.com/

Multiple Speed Broadband Video - the video is encoded in various formats suitable for slower or faster bandwidth

Customized Templates - http://smarty.php.net/

DVD video captures - a picture that is actually a frame of a dvd movie

No Upsell - dunno what u mean

Java Video 100% compatible - http://java.sun.com/

Gig transfers - the more you burn the better chances to get a Christmas card from your hosting company you have.

CamHunniez · 2004-07-21, 03:33 PM

everybody starts somewhere, some time alex.. nobody's fresh out the gate knowing it all, but I started in this as a recruiter; I didn't ask detailed questions about how things are organized and how things are orchestrated, I just focused on recruiting the women for the project... now, I'm gonna create my own websites, so it's like buying a home.. I wanna know everything there is to know, from the in's and out's to the crosses on the T's and the dots on the I's, beforehand... so yea alex, im fairly new to this, which is why I ask so many questions, cuz I'm a sponge for knowledge

question for you, phatbiatch... you're no longer a webcam girl or you still do it to this day?

RemarkableSE · 2009-09-05, 05:03 PM

Sorry for making an ancient thread active. We are working on a new solution that makes it more easy to engage into this market. With us, you don't need to have $35,000 upfront. Check our site for more info. You can always ask me more info at my chat, it's hosted at http://www.remarkable-se.nl/player.php

LeRoy · 2009-09-08, 11:15 AM

Can this software record the sessions?

RemarkableSE · 2009-09-08, 11:57 AM

That feature is not yet available, LeRoy.

2004-07-21, 03:33 PM	#35
CamHunniez Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14	everybody starts somewhere, some time alex.. nobody's fresh out the gate knowing it all, but I started in this as a recruiter; I didn't ask detailed questions about how things are organized and how things are orchestrated, I just focused on recruiting the women for the project... now, I'm gonna create my own websites, so it's like buying a home.. I wanna know everything there is to know, from the in's and out's to the crosses on the T's and the dots on the I's, beforehand... so yea alex, im fairly new to this, which is why I ask so many questions, cuz I'm a sponge for knowledge question for you, phatbiatch... you're no longer a webcam girl or you still do it to this day? Last edited by CamHunniez; 2004-07-21 at 03:35 PM..

2009-09-05, 05:03 PM	#36
RemarkableSE Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3	Sorry for making an ancient thread active. We are working on a new solution that makes it more easy to engage into this market. With us, you don't need to have $35,000 upfront. Check our site for more info. You can always ask me more info at my chat, it's hosted at http://www.remarkable-se.nl/player.php __________________ Remarkable SE - Integration of LIVE chat for your site!

2009-09-08, 11:15 AM	#37
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,370	Can this software record the sessions? __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM

2009-09-08, 11:57 AM	#38
RemarkableSE Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3	That feature is not yet available, LeRoy. __________________ Remarkable SE - Integration of LIVE chat for your site!

2004-07-16, 01:13 PM	#32
CamHunniez Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14	thanx everyone for the debating back and forth, helps me to understand and determine what's better than what... I appreciate it... especially you phatbiatch, you brought alot of options to mind basically, the membership that we're creating will start out as just a model site... we'll feature videos and schedule webcam shows during the week, but first we'll start with pictures... with a small monthly fee (19.95), so guys can get used to the girls, used to seeing them... then gradually bring in more features and then introducing more girls month by month, ultimately raising the price of the monthly access, which will end up being 39.95 when we're featuring the scheduled webcam shows (we'll use an outside program to start with: msn or im logitech)... good idea or does it need a lil tweaking? the advertising is not a problem, the traffic acquiring won't be a problem, getting the word out will be virtually easy because of the ties and partnerships we have.. we're just gonna hold off on the webcam site for a lil while, because of the cost... that's why we're makng a membership site, that will generate profit we'll use towards creating the webcam site in a later date, possibly a year or two.... we'll have girls licensed with us, so when we do put forth the webcam site, we'll already have girls ready to go for now, the focus is getting the membership site started and keeping it successful enough to complete a dominant webcam site in the future or sooner if possibe, because we believe in supplying girls with their worth... so in the long run, we will definitely hope to get a minute-per-minute service where girls can actually make almost, if not, more than a thousand a day with us... providing there are many members, and that all falls on the shoulders of our advertisement, which we'll be getting a healthy dose of with the membership site and the dedication to getting-the-word-out that everyone possesses; hopefully achieving loyal fans for our women I was reading up on a potential web host, so I want to inquire about a few things that I read on there, so that I have a complete understanding of everything....anyone that can describe these things in detail (i.e. what it means, how it helps, is it really good or just sub par, etc... any information is appreciated) Apache Web Server Searchable Database Multiple Speed Broadband Video Customized Templates DVD video captures No Upsell Java Video 100% compatible and gig transfers... anyone care to explain what they're for? I'm not entirely sure, so I want to get exact input about it, rather than assuming... again, thank you to everyone consistently replying here, helping me get a better understanding of things to come

2004-07-20, 09:00 PM	#33
phatbiatch Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: X <--- Here Posts: 64	Cool, you're welcome, lol at least my webcam girl experience is able to help someone else with providing some insight.