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2012-01-15, 10:28 AM | #51 |
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YOU AREN'T TALKING ABOUT A LINK LIST!
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2012-01-15, 09:47 PM | #52 |
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We knew you'd say that.
--- lets see, what other directions could you go? The whole freesite concept is based in a model of minor-protection, a concept that has been pretty much completely dumped by society, except among republican candidates. The anachronistic "warning page". Hell, thats why I settled on freesites, originally, I was concerned that the gummit might crack down and arrest people - it was coincidental that freesites provided a good selling platform. Lol, I'm such a sucker, I still think minor-protection is a good idea. Thats probably why I'm doomed to die in this fucking stagnant pond. But I think we have to look at the content - linklists link to freesites - it's a partnership - so what would teh new "not a linklist" link to, if anything? What is the content? Hmmm - on second thought - you don't really want to link to things, you just want things to link to you - so in one possible future the new not-linklist needs to be a linkbait factory, basically. But, that pretty much destroys the partnership model of the linklist and all pretube traffic systems. Which is the trend anyway - so again we all here die in this stinking bone-clogged pond. Well, it's pretty clear what you need, then. Everything revolves around one thing - the revenue models. First you tackle the revenue models. Then, the traffic will take care of itself, attracted by revenue. |
2012-01-16, 09:26 AM | #53 | |
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2012-01-16, 10:17 AM | #54 | |
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2012-01-16, 08:20 PM | #55 |
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Without going into a full blown "responsive design" you could accomplish quite a bit by changing your css from px to em. I just seen a video that explained how it works in a typography lesson. Right now, I'd confuse all of us trying to explain it but if your interested I can find it again.
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2012-01-17, 06:12 AM | #56 |
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If someone is looking for a free social bookmarking / linklist 2.0 script/platform http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/ is a good start.
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2012-01-17, 10:42 AM | #57 | |
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May be a good topic in a different section… |
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2012-01-17, 11:22 AM | #58 | |
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Plus there's the whole navigation issue, with mobile devices offering touch screens and losing all hover and mouseover usage. Liquid is about all you can do with most adult sites since most pages have images or graphics of some kind. Sites that are mostly text...or that are designed first for mobile users (netbook, tablet and smartphone)...are the ones that could benefit most from responsive design techniques. Here's something worth taking the time to read if you're thinking of putting in the work to create a responsive site: 11 Reasons why Responsive Design isn't that cool
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2012-01-17, 06:59 PM | #59 | |
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2012-01-17, 07:54 PM | #60 |
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+ I suppose if you make a links list responsive - you are still linking to unresponsive free sites... so in essence - you are making it easier to annoy people
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2012-01-17, 10:21 PM | #61 |
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2012-01-25, 02:04 PM | #62 |
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2012-01-26, 05:58 PM | #63 | |
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2012-01-27, 01:51 AM | #64 |
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I messed around with Pligg a little bit. Seems like it could make itself useful, but I've only used it a little so I guess time would tell.
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2012-01-27, 02:34 AM | #65 |
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Lets see - a "new not-linklist" would need features like this.
It would have to remove or seriously reduce the reviewing process. The ideal is that every link submitted would be automatically accepted and posted. Profits are too low to expect either the labor cost on the review side or the rejection cost on the content assembly side to be born - it has to be cheaper for everyone. Along that same line - it should be as low labor as possible. It would have to be acceptable to the existing linklists as a legitimate recip. That shouldn't be hard. It should reward assembler effort and profitability in some way. It might work if it delivers content in a more entertaining way than the tubes, with more text for the spiders. (a huffpo kind of thing, but for porn). Along that same line, it would work best if it had a revenue sharing and spider-attraction rewards system. Like, say, users get free time in paysites, and content creators earn money or, worse case say, points, symbolic money that can be redeemed - one hopes. And whoever creates text that gets spidered gets points. Some challenging scripting there - but scripting is not the huge obstacle it was some years back. |
2012-01-27, 12:54 PM | #66 |
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How about instead of being a link farm you host ALL of the free sites on your domain.
Set up hosting logins for 10 of your friends or trusted submitters, each with their own section. So when Bill logs in via FTP it's linklistname.com/bill as an example. And you as the link list owner host every single site they submit. You gain hundreds, maybe 1000's of internal content and pages and in essence content so google should like you more. And if a webmaster goes offline you don't don't have a bunch of sites going 404. |
2012-01-27, 05:22 PM | #67 |
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Thats brilliant Ram - obvious in retrospect, I shoulda thought of that one too - I was mostly thinking of text content, but why not have the assembled content all there in that "huffpo of porn" structure too?
In the old days the content licensing might have made that forwned upon, but the model of content licensing these days is very different, in attitude at least. Increase in-domain surfer stickiness and time spent at the domain, get around the google algo - brilliant. |
2012-02-01, 04:23 PM | #68 |
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I actually have an idea for a link list that I think could bring huge money in.. its really out of the box.. .. but its a long term plan to monetize it . I dont have the time to do it .. I started it.... but each category turns into a full time job.
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2012-02-01, 05:44 PM | #69 |
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Dude - nice to see ya, man.
Yes, if you want to create a "huffpo of porn" effect, a single domain with a ton of content on it, it would need to be a "'crowd" effort. No single person could do it. I have been thinking about this a fair amount myself, and it's pretty clear it would be a huge amount of work. So, if you decide to go in that direction, you have to figure out a way to get teams of people to work together. Some kind of revenue sharing is the most likely way to accomplish that. The old linklist model was also a kind of revenue sharing. |
2012-02-07, 12:32 PM | #70 |
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Hey Bill
There is little reason to use a directory for Free Porn anymore. if your gonna do a directory or "link list" you need to stay in areas that people need and use directorys
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2012-02-07, 12:57 PM | #71 |
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A lot of reading in this thread... I skimmed through it.
I always thought that having a LL where users could rate and comment about the links would be good. Users can over at my tube but never do so I guess not. Still it would be something that I would try if I had the time and the desire to spend hours getting a new script up and running. Surfers want quick access to what they are looking for. |
2012-02-09, 11:19 AM | #72 | |
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I think the perfect thing to link to, for both surfers and SE's, is a hybrid gallery. You'd have a full text blog post on one side of the page and thumbnails on the other. Or any combination of heavy text and images. The SE's would get their text content and surfers would get their visual content without having to go through page after page to find it. The free site might be the biggest weakness in the link list game. We link to an index page with 3 ads, 12-20 recip links, and little to no page content. There's no balance between links out and content.
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2012-02-10, 11:34 AM | #73 |
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Do you guys think merging a tube and a linklist is a good idea? I know it's not a new idea, but if it were done right with say a row of tube videos and a section of links in the same niche below it with a heading like "more blowjob FREE sites"...I've kicked it around, thought about doing a test page.
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2012-02-10, 11:43 AM | #74 | |
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