More of US rights going, going…

Cleo · 2005-06-09, 08:40 AM

http://news.com.com/2061-10789_3-573...6302&subj=news

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"In a move antithetical to our Constitution, the new 'administrative subpoena' authority would let the FBI write and approve its own search orders for intelligence investigations, without prior judicial approval," the group said in a statement. "Americans have a reasonable expectation that their federal government will not gather records about their health, their wealth and the transactions of their daily life without probable cause of a crime and without a court order."

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-09, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

http://news.com.com/2061-10789_3-573...6302&subj=news

Jaw dropping. |shocking|

Kinky · 2005-06-09, 09:40 AM

it's really scary what the US is slowly turning into... reminds me of one of the countries we defeated in WW 2

Cleo · 2005-06-09, 09:49 AM

So is Bush going to be growing a cute little under the nose mustache?

Fonz · 2005-06-09, 10:02 AM

My neighbour's house is for sale, anyone interested?

Kinky · 2005-06-09, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz

My neighbour's house is for sale, anyone interested?

only if I can also get full unlimited access to your cheetos stash

Toby · 2005-06-09, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

So is Bush going to be growing a cute little under the nose mustache?

Like this?

Cleo · 2005-06-09, 10:36 AM

That is so disturbing on so many levels.

alvarez · 2005-06-09, 10:50 AM

Time to get out..

Useless · 2005-06-09, 10:54 AM

Shhhh. They're watching.

Kinky · 2005-06-09, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Shhhh. They're watching.

F them! i'm sick of watching my country slowly

sue-fl · 2005-06-09, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

That is so disturbing on so many levels.

Yeah it is Cleo! Made my stomach ill because it's to real. Lord help us all!

binxgook · 2005-06-09, 12:33 PM

I have recently started writing a book about life in general and some of the things that really get me in a uproar! (Binxgook has issues) The US government is one the biggest contributors to my daily agitation. I just cant understand how the citizens of the US can sit by and let these things happen. When will people wake up and realize that this country is not what it is supposed to be? I could go on for hours writing but I suppose I better save it for the book.

pornrex · 2005-06-09, 12:35 PM

It really is a terrible shame that this is happening.

These so-called "Christian Conservatives" are acting well beyond the intended tolerance principle levels of REAL Christianity. For those of you familiar with it will know what I am referring to and to those of you that are not, this is NOT what Christianity is about. Its about tolerance. Forgiveness.

Anyways, these people remind of that movie Bulletproof Monk. If you've seen it you'll know what I mean. Hiding behind the cloak of a moral and upright principle/way of life does NOT give them the right to act like Judge, Jury and Executioner. Before George and his crew continue further on their crusade they should stop and realize their wrongdoing with respect to Haliburton-gate and their lack of preparation for 9-11, amongst so many other things.

Now I understand why Useless said what he said regarding that whole photochop thing.

juggernaut · 2005-06-09, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by binxgook

I have recently started writing a book about life in general and some of the things that really get me in a uproar! (Binxgook has issues) The US government is one the biggest contributors to my daily agitation. I just cant understand how the citizens of the US can sit by and let these things happen. When will people wake up and realize that this country is not what it is supposed to be? I could go on for hours writing but I suppose I better save it for the book.

Ill tell you whats wrong, no one is dieing in front of people faces. I'm a American but can tell you that as long as I have money in my pocket I could give a shit about anything which is most peoples thoughts here. As long as I can pay the bills and go eat and drink where I want. Things like this pass over my head for about 2 minutes as I feel powerless to do anything about them. Yes I vote, yes I served and still no good as come from it ever. So what's an American to do? Sit back and let the world come crashing down. I got news for you, there is nothing you can do, if you were to raise up like other countries have in the past you would be confronted with the US military and they would kill you. Many people don't know there is a part in the oath that states. To defend against enemies foreign and domestic. I tell you from my personnal experience that many in the military would do what they were told. It would take some serious shit to convert them to help over thow the government. It would never happen, can you say defense budget? Ask some COL to give up his 5 million a year budget to end up losing his job and possibly going to jail afterwards. Sure ok. Anyway whats a person to do? Voting is the only thing that can truly change things, but people always seem to busy for that or just dont care anymore. As an American I an truly say my memory of shitty things here lasts about 1 month. It was only about 3 years ago gas was $1.30 a gallon and now look at it. But fact is people cried about the gas and then 1 month later took it as normal. It's not like the increase in gas prices are funding a war or anything.

tiny · 2005-06-09, 01:46 PM

Damn sounds like we need another revolution and it can only get worse

Toby · 2005-06-09, 01:47 PM

We have another revolution every 4 years, we call it a Presidential election.

docholly · 2005-06-09, 02:17 PM

i found this very interesting.

14 stages

Kinky · 2005-06-09, 02:31 PM

what's really scary is that we might get 8 more years of Bush... as in Jeb Bush... anybody else notice the governor of florida travelling around the world and being put in the national spotlight? i'd be willing to bet that he will get more and more press the closer GW's term gets to an end

Cleo · 2005-06-09, 02:39 PM

Yeah I saw that, very scary.

Actually I'm already living under the rule of both the Bushes.

Toby · 2005-06-09, 02:45 PM

The really sad part is, at this point the top candidate that the Democratic party has so far for 2008 is Hillary. I hope they come up with something better before then.

Wenchy · 2005-06-09, 03:33 PM

What's really scary is that when someone as well respected as Howard Dean stands up and calls it like he sees it, he's the bad guy. I admire him for having the balls to say what needs to be said, heat or no heat. My biggest concern is whether or not anyone is listening

Anyone else here listen to Air America radio? If you don't you should because if there is an answer, I believe the movement will start there.

SirMoby · 2005-06-09, 03:50 PM

Does anyone remember the cold war? Are we becoming exactly what we were fighting against?

spookyx · 2005-06-09, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

The really sad part is, at this point the top candidate that the Democratic party has so far for 2008 is Hillary. I hope they come up with something better before then.

Gabbo in 2008!!!

juggernaut · 2005-06-09, 04:09 PM

I would like to see Ben Ken Obi throw his saber into the presidental race. Seriously I don't think Jeb Bush would have much of a chance. I would think the American public is going to vote for the 1st person who claims they can really end the Iraq mess. Bush could say he will but as dumb as the public is, there still is that fool me twice rule that I have confidence in. What we really need in the office is a robot that is directly connected to the internet and everyone is required to hit the submit button once a week for all voting matters.

2005-06-09, 09:40 AM	#3
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	it's really scary what the US is slowly turning into... reminds me of one of the countries we defeated in WW 2 __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-06-09, 09:49 AM	#4
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2005-06-09, 10:02 AM	#5
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2005-06-09, 10:36 AM	#8
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	That is so disturbing on so many levels. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-06-09, 10:50 AM	#9
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2005-06-09, 10:54 AM	#10
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2005-06-09, 12:33 PM	#13
binxgook My big ole' fat baby loves to eat Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 689	I have recently started writing a book about life in general and some of the things that really get me in a uproar! (Binxgook has issues) The US government is one the biggest contributors to my daily agitation. I just cant understand how the citizens of the US can sit by and let these things happen. When will people wake up and realize that this country is not what it is supposed to be? I could go on for hours writing but I suppose I better save it for the book.

2005-06-09, 12:35 PM	#14
pornrex feeling a bit better Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,779	It really is a terrible shame that this is happening. These so-called "Christian Conservatives" are acting well beyond the intended tolerance principle levels of REAL Christianity. For those of you familiar with it will know what I am referring to and to those of you that are not, this is NOT what Christianity is about. Its about tolerance. Forgiveness. Anyways, these people remind of that movie Bulletproof Monk. If you've seen it you'll know what I mean. Hiding behind the cloak of a moral and upright principle/way of life does NOT give them the right to act like Judge, Jury and Executioner. Before George and his crew continue further on their crusade they should stop and realize their wrongdoing with respect to Haliburton-gate and their lack of preparation for 9-11, amongst so many other things. Now I understand why Useless said what he said regarding that whole photochop thing. __________________ colo-cation - the only host you'll need

2005-06-09, 01:46 PM	#16
tiny Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: maine Posts: 447	Damn sounds like we need another revolution and it can only get worse

2005-06-09, 01:47 PM	#17
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	We have another revolution every 4 years, we call it a Presidential election. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2005-06-09, 02:17 PM	#18
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2005-06-09, 02:31 PM	#19
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	what's really scary is that we might get 8 more years of Bush... as in Jeb Bush... anybody else notice the governor of florida travelling around the world and being put in the national spotlight? i'd be willing to bet that he will get more and more press the closer GW's term gets to an end __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-06-09, 02:39 PM	#20
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Yeah I saw that, very scary. Actually I'm already living under the rule of both the Bushes. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-06-09, 02:45 PM	#21
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	The really sad part is, at this point the top candidate that the Democratic party has so far for 2008 is Hillary. I hope they come up with something better before then. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2005-06-09, 03:33 PM	#22
Wenchy Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mile High City Posts: 120	What's really scary is that when someone as well respected as Howard Dean stands up and calls it like he sees it, he's the bad guy. I admire him for having the balls to say what needs to be said, heat or no heat. My biggest concern is whether or not anyone is listening Anyone else here listen to Air America radio? If you don't you should because if there is an answer, I believe the movement will start there. __________________ I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"

2005-06-09, 03:50 PM	#23
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	Does anyone remember the cold war? Are we becoming exactly what we were fighting against?

2005-06-09, 04:09 PM	#25
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	I would like to see Ben Ken Obi throw his saber into the presidental race. Seriously I don't think Jeb Bush would have much of a chance. I would think the American public is going to vote for the 1st person who claims they can really end the Iraq mess. Bush could say he will but as dumb as the public is, there still is that fool me twice rule that I have confidence in. What we really need in the office is a robot that is directly connected to the internet and everyone is required to hit the submit button once a week for all voting matters.